#1
Greatest Leaders In History
Aug 18th, 2006I would personally pick Adolf Hitler....although he commanded the SS troops to kill 3 million Jews and many million others...he gave everyone jobbs...
History: Greatest Leader and Why (Greatest Leaders In History)
I would personally pick Adolf Hitler....although he commanded the SS troops to kill 3 million Jews and many million others...he gave everyone jobbs...
Conservative
#2
Greatest Leaders Of History
Aug 19th, 2006
I still like Tecumseh. A man of his time, and fully cognizant of the future the tribes faced, he still attempted to rally them for a final push. He died one of the great heroes of the War of 1812, recognized for his field ability and humanity by both sides; on his death, the American press waxed eloquent. His followers were heartbroken and buried him in a hidden grave. A giant had passed away.
#3
History Of Leader
Aug 19th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by sine000
..including the Jews. It is called slave labour today....he gave everyone jobbs...
1. Winston Churchill. Saved France in WW2.
2. Margaret Thatcher. Saved Britain from socialist strangulation.
3. Ronald Reagan. Saved the free world from the USSR.
4, Golda Meier. Saved Israel from extinction.
#4
The Greatest Leader In History
Aug 19th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by zoofer
1. Winston Churchill not only saved france, he saved britain, most of europe and probably the free world in the end.Quote: Originally Posted by sine000..including the Jews. It is called slave labour today....he gave everyone jobbs...
1. Winston Churchill. Saved France in WW2.
2. Margaret Thatcher. Saved Britain from socialist strangulation.
3. Ronald Reagan. Saved the free world from the USSR.
4, Golda Meier. Saved Israel from extinction.
2. Maragret Thatcher - Agreed
3. Ronald Reagan - you forget that the USSR were on their last legs and could not afford the arms race anymore.
4. Golda Meier - Agreed
I would personally like to add Alexander the great to the list, at such a young age conquering the known world and loved (for the most part) by his followers....also the greatest tacticion the world has ever known
#5
Aug 19th, 2006
F.W. DeKlerk of south Africa.
He essentially legislated himself out of a job at great risk to himself.
or
Gorbachev. (spelling?). He basically pioneeered the dismantlement of the iron curtain.
He essentially legislated himself out of a job at great risk to himself.
or
Gorbachev. (spelling?). He basically pioneeered the dismantlement of the iron curtain.
#6
Aug 19th, 2006
Stalin--
He, the Russian people and communism saved the world from Hitler.
The world can never repay Stalin and the Russian people---current estimates 30 million deaths- for their unparralleled sacrifice in the face of Fascism
It was only Stalin who recognised the global threat of fascism--as early as 1936--by giving support to the antifascist Spanish republic fighting Franco while the cowardly American and British covertly supported Franco, Mussolinni and Hitler.
The fact that later these flip floppers -flopped and realized their mistake--only meant that they had a greater fire to put out thanks to their cowardice, ineptitude and unspeakable hypocrasy.
leaders indeed!
He, the Russian people and communism saved the world from Hitler.
The world can never repay Stalin and the Russian people---current estimates 30 million deaths- for their unparralleled sacrifice in the face of Fascism
It was only Stalin who recognised the global threat of fascism--as early as 1936--by giving support to the antifascist Spanish republic fighting Franco while the cowardly American and British covertly supported Franco, Mussolinni and Hitler.
The fact that later these flip floppers -flopped and realized their mistake--only meant that they had a greater fire to put out thanks to their cowardice, ineptitude and unspeakable hypocrasy.
leaders indeed!
#7
Aug 19th, 2006
I like David Ben-Gurion.
He led his countrymen into nationhood and served as both PM and Minister of Defense winning a war of independence and establishing a nation. A plump little fireball with a huge mind, crazy white hair and a wild look.
He led his countrymen into nationhood and served as both PM and Minister of Defense winning a war of independence and establishing a nation. A plump little fireball with a huge mind, crazy white hair and a wild look.
#8
Aug 19th, 2006
Wouldnt you guys think that Pope John Paul II was a great *leader* in a way???....He morally brought down the "Iron Curtain"....ended communism...He was a spiritually leading people...
#9
Aug 19th, 2006
Queen Elizabeth I, of England, is my hero.
Given her time and circutmstances, she dedicated herself to the betterment of her realm, despite all the odds against her - namely being a woman. She made mistakes as humans do, but she did very well with what she inherited from her siblings - a very serious religious mess.
Given her time and circutmstances, she dedicated herself to the betterment of her realm, despite all the odds against her - namely being a woman. She made mistakes as humans do, but she did very well with what she inherited from her siblings - a very serious religious mess.
#10
Aug 19th, 2006
Well...my Top 2 *Greatest* leader would be....
1) Adolf Hitler- Although he killed 3 million Jews...millions of Russians and others....he gave everyone jobs....yes some might say this is slave labour....but then he gave people opportunity..
2)Pope John Paul II- He spiritually brought down communism , the *Iron Curtain*...
1) Adolf Hitler- Although he killed 3 million Jews...millions of Russians and others....he gave everyone jobs....yes some might say this is slave labour....but then he gave people opportunity..
2)Pope John Paul II- He spiritually brought down communism , the *Iron Curtain*...
Liberal
#12
Aug 19th, 2006
Quote: Originally Posted by Julienne
Hear, hear! Wonderfully said, Julienne.Queen Elizabeth I, of England, is my hero.
#13
Aug 19th, 2006
Quote: Originally Posted by Toro
Why Stephen Harper?...he BARELY did anything for CANADA yet...Stephen Harper.
#14
Feb 20th, 2009
I'm going to sound like a horribly corrupt person, really, I swear I'm not.
Hitler: Yes, he was a great leader. He did some horrible things, inexcusable things, but that does not take away from the fact that he was a great leader. He fixed a dying Germany after WWI. In addition, he was charismatic, the people loved him! He had a plan, and he followed up.
Napoleon Bonapart (born Napoleone Buonaparte) was another great leader who picked a country up when it was on it's deathbead. Again, he was charismatic, had a plan and took action.
Hitler: Yes, he was a great leader. He did some horrible things, inexcusable things, but that does not take away from the fact that he was a great leader. He fixed a dying Germany after WWI. In addition, he was charismatic, the people loved him! He had a plan, and he followed up.
Napoleon Bonapart (born Napoleone Buonaparte) was another great leader who picked a country up when it was on it's deathbead. Again, he was charismatic, had a plan and took action.
Free Thinker
#15
Feb 20th, 2009
Mao - Saved a billion people from endless poverty and oppression
Trudeau - Greatest Leader Canada has ever had
F. Roosevelt - One of the only American leaders not bathed in corruption
Bolivar - Independence leader of South America
Ghandi - Indian independence
Trudeau - Greatest Leader Canada has ever had
F. Roosevelt - One of the only American leaders not bathed in corruption
Bolivar - Independence leader of South America
Ghandi - Indian independence
No Party Affiliation
#16
Feb 20th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by Tyr
Trudeau divided the country like no other before or since. Regardless of whether one agrees or disagrees with him politically, his divisive ways preclude him from being called a great leader. Harper is much the same way.Trudeau - Greatest Leader Canada has ever had
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#17
Feb 20th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by sine000
Probably Winston Churchill- thanks to him Hitler is history. I think the number of Jews exterminated was closer to 6 million.Hey guys, who do you think is the greatest leader in the world? He/She could be dead or still alive....
I would personally pick Adolf Hitler....although he commanded the SS troops to kill 3 million Jews and many million others...he gave everyone jobbs...
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#18
Feb 20th, 2009
To those who think Hitler, I think they should consider Erwin Rommel, he had more scruples.
No Party Affiliation
#19
Feb 20th, 2009
"Leadership is the art of getting someone else to do something you want done because he wants to do it." - Dwight Eisenhower
By that definition, Hitler was a great leader.
By that definition, Hitler was a great leader.
Free Thinker
#20
Feb 20th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
Really? I would have attributed 80% of Hitler's Josef Stalin and the other 20% to Hitler's own insanity. Churchill had very little to do with "winning" WWII. He had everything to do with British morale and that's pretty much it. Nothing very earth shatteringProbably Winston Churchill- thanks to him Hitler is history. I think the number of Jews exterminated was closer to 6 million.
Conservative
#21
Feb 20th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by Tyr
Yep.Really? I would have attributed 80% of Hitler's Josef Stalin and the other 20% to Hitler's own insanity. Churchill had very little to do with "winning" WWII. He had everything to do with British morale and that's pretty much it. Nothing very earth shattering
Except he saw it coming.
And being the focus point of defiant morale is kinda "earth-shattering" in its own way...
Conservative
#22
Feb 20th, 2009
Oh, BTW, Pierre Trudeau is among the WORST Prime Ministers Canada ever had.
Free Thinker
#23
Feb 20th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy
your opinion I guess. Oh, BTW, Pierre Trudeau is among the WORST Prime Ministers Canada ever had.
Thankfully the majority of Canadians think differently
Free Thinker
#24
Feb 20th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy
Odd... I didn't see your pick(s)Yep.
Except he saw it coming.
And being the focus point of defiant morale is kinda "earth-shattering" in its own way...
Conservative
#25
Feb 20th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by Tyr
In Canada?Odd... I didn't see your pick(s)
John A. Macdonald.
Wilfred Laurier.
In the USA?
Thomas Jefferson
Abraham Lincoln
Theodore Roosevelt
Great Britain
Gotta love Winston
Henry II
Just off the top of my head.
Not great, but I admired?
Lyndon Johnson.
#26
Feb 20th, 2009
Lester Bowles Pearson 14th Canadian PM
Accomplished many important items of agenda that are helping Canadians today 43 years later. Typical of the liberal mind.
#27
Feb 20th, 2009
The Duke of Wellington
"In for a penny in for a pound"
"Up and at them"
"No cheering men... move forward and complete your victory."
"Wellington...I've lost my leg"
"So you have"
"In for a penny in for a pound"
"Up and at them"
"No cheering men... move forward and complete your victory."
"Wellington...I've lost my leg"
"So you have"
Free Thinker
#28
Feb 20th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek
good point. Also a Nobel Prize Winner.
Lester Bowles Pearson 14th Canadian PM
Accomplished many important items of agenda that are helping Canadians today 43 years later. Typical of the liberal mind.
Free Thinker
#29
Feb 20th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy
England...In Canada?
John A. Macdonald.
Wilfred Laurier.
In the USA?
Thomas Jefferson
Abraham Lincoln
Theodore Roosevelt
Great Britain
Gotta love Winston
Henry II
Just off the top of my head.
Not great, but I admired?
Lyndon Johnson.
Bevan, Cromwell or Peel (maybe Disraeli)
US....
FDR, Jefferson, L Johnson (not much else)
Everyone seems to forget Ataturk dragging the Turks kicking and screaming into the 20th century, or Ivan III who took Moscow from a third rate city to an empire that stretch from sea to sea
Conservative
#30
Feb 20th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by Tyr
Hmmm...Cromwell was a bit of a butcher....you obviously ain't Irish England...
Bevan, Cromwell or Peel (maybe Disraeli)
US....
FDR, Jefferson, L Johnson (not much else)
Everyone seems to forget Ataturk dragging the Turks kicking and screaming into the 20th century, or Ivan III who took Moscow from a third rate city to an empire that stretch from sea to sea
. Peel and Disraeli I could get on board for......You are right about Ataturk as well, but for my money the greatest Tsar was Peter. (although another butcher)
How about Ghengis Khan?
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