6th British soldier dies in Afghanistan.

Blackleaf

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British deaths in Afghanistan are starting to mount up.
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British soldier killed in southern Afghanistan

Declan Walsh in Camp Bastion
Wednesday July 5, 2006
The Guardian





A British soldier was killed today in a Taliban ambush in the southern Afghan province of Helmand, the third British fatality since the weekend.

The attack occurred at about 3pm local time (1130 BST) near the embattled British base in Sangin, a near-deserted town where a large Taliban force has mustered.

The insurgents opened fire on a squad of paratroopers as they secured a helicopter landing site for two Chinook troop carriers which were about to land.

The Guardian was on board one of the Chinooks, which circled about five miles (8km) south of the town as fighting intensified. About 15 minutes later it aborted the mission and returned to the main base at Camp Bastion.

Captain Marcus Eves, a British military spokesman in Helmand, confirmed that one soldier had been killed.

"During a patrol in Sangin town, members of 3 Para battlegroup were attacked by suspected Taliban forces. It is with deep regret that we confirm that during that incident a British soldier has been killed."

Next of kin were being informed.

Over the past week, thousands of civilians have fled the normally bustling market town due to daily Taliban attacks on about 150 British soldiers based at the town's police station. Two soldiers - including Lance Corporal Jabron Hashmi, the first British Muslim soldier to die in the "war on terror" - were killed on Saturday during a rocket attack that blasted through the wall of their room. An Afghan interpreter also died.

The Taliban attacks have become increasingly audacious over the past two weeks. The insurgents appear to be well-armed, well-organised and tactically capable, firing with various weapons from nearby houses, wooded areas and other vantage points.

The paratroopers have returned fire with machine guns, artillery and air support from British and US warplanes, killing an unknown number of Taliban.

guardian.co.uk
 

aeon

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Damn, lets deploy the Nuclear arsenal, and let's give them a lesson.
 

aeon

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Re: RE: 6th British soldier dies in Afghanistan.

I think not said:
aeon said:
Damn, lets deploy the Nuclear arsenal, and let's give them a lesson.

That sounds like something the French said not too long ago.


The french? who is that guy?
 

JonB2004

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RE: 6th British soldier d

Why is anyone in Afghanistan? Why don't we just bring our troops home?
 

Mogz

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Re: RE: 6th British soldier d

JonB2004 said:
Why is anyone in Afghanistan? Why don't we just bring our troops home?

Why so you can get a welfare check jon? There are a myriad of reasons why we're there, you're just too young and uninformed to understand why.
 

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Re: RE: 6th British soldier d

JonB2004 said:
Why is anyone in Afghanistan? Why don't we just bring our troops home?


Well because the democratically elected government has asked us to stay for now to protect them from Taliban remnants which would try to over throw the current democratically elected government and replace it with the terrorist supporting government it had before. I think the mission should change in Afghan, but I do not doubt we are needed there to support the current government, with all it's faults is a million times better then the last.
 

JonB2004

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Mogz said:
JonB2004 said:
Why is anyone in Afghanistan? Why don't we just bring our troops home?

Why so you can get a welfare check jon? There are a myriad of reasons why we're there, you're just too young and uninformed to understand why.


What the hell is that? What is this shit that I'm too young to know what I'm talking about? Quit it. OK. And you don't only call me ignorant about Afghanistan. You call everyone who disagrees with you ignorant. You know what, Mogz? You're a prick, who thinks he knows better than everyone else all the time. Well, guess what?

FUCK YOU!!!
 

Mogz

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Re: RE: 6th British soldier d

JonB2004 said:
Mogz said:
JonB2004 said:
Why is anyone in Afghanistan? Why don't we just bring our troops home?

Why so you can get a welfare check jon? There are a myriad of reasons why we're there, you're just too young and uninformed to understand why.


What the hell is that? What is this shit that I'm too young to know what I'm talking about? Quit it. OK. And you don't only call me ignorant about Afghanistan. You call everyone who disagrees with you ignorant. You know what, Mogz? You're a prick, who thinks he knows better than everyone else all the time. Well, guess what?

*censored* YOU!!!

Hehehe, how charming. Immaturity proven? Yes.

Things to do today:
  • Get groceries
  • Clean bathroom - complete
  • AgitateJonB2004 - complete
  • Confute aeon
  • Rent porno
 

JonB2004

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RE: 6th British soldier d

I'm about to take my toys and smash them over Mogz's head.
 

Finder

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Re: RE: 6th British soldier d

Mogz said:
JonB2004 said:
Mogz said:
JonB2004 said:
Why is anyone in Afghanistan? Why don't we just bring our troops home?

Why so you can get a welfare check jon? There are a myriad of reasons why we're there, you're just too young and uninformed to understand why.


What the hell is that? What is this shit that I'm too young to know what I'm talking about? Quit it. OK. And you don't only call me ignorant about Afghanistan. You call everyone who disagrees with you ignorant. You know what, Mogz? You're a prick, who thinks he knows better than everyone else all the time. Well, guess what?

*censored* YOU!!!

Hehehe, how charming. Immaturity proven? Yes.

Things to do today:
  • Get groceries
  • Clean bathroom - complete
  • AgitateJonB2004 - complete
  • Confute aeon
  • Rent porno

by the look of your own list you appear to be the immature teenager here...
 

JonB2004

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Re: RE: 6th British soldier d

Mogz said:
JonB2004 said:
Mogz said:
JonB2004 said:
Why is anyone in Afghanistan? Why don't we just bring our troops home?

Why so you can get a welfare check jon? There are a myriad of reasons why we're there, you're just too young and uninformed to understand why.


What the hell is that? What is this shit that I'm too young to know what I'm talking about? Quit it. OK. And you don't only call me ignorant about Afghanistan. You call everyone who disagrees with you ignorant. You know what, Mogz? You're a prick, who thinks he knows better than everyone else all the time. Well, guess what?

*censored* YOU!!!

Hehehe, how charming. Immaturity proven? Yes.

Things to do today:
  • Get groceries
  • Clean bathroom - complete
  • AgitateJonB2004 - complete
  • Confute aeon
  • Rent porno


I'm not immature. Wow! I said "Fuck". That makes me so immature. And let us count the amount of times I seen it on your posts.

And by the way, you're 23. I'm 16. You're only 7 years older than me. You may know a little more than I do, but not that much. If you were 30+, than I'd say you know way more than me. The only person on this forum, who is younger than 30 and know twice as much as I know, is FiveParadox.
 

JonB2004

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Re: RE: 6th British soldier d

Finder said:
Mogz said:
JonB2004 said:
Mogz said:
JonB2004 said:
Why is anyone in Afghanistan? Why don't we just bring our troops home?

Why so you can get a welfare check jon? There are a myriad of reasons why we're there, you're just too young and uninformed to understand why.


What the hell is that? What is this shit that I'm too young to know what I'm talking about? Quit it. OK. And you don't only call me ignorant about Afghanistan. You call everyone who disagrees with you ignorant. You know what, Mogz? You're a prick, who thinks he knows better than everyone else all the time. Well, guess what?

*censored* YOU!!!

Hehehe, how charming. Immaturity proven? Yes.

Things to do today:
  • Get groceries
  • Clean bathroom - complete
  • AgitateJonB2004 - complete
  • Confute aeon
  • Rent porno

by the look of your own list you appear to be the immature teenager here...


No kidding, eh.
 

Mogz

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RE: 6th British soldier d

You're telling me that a pimply faced teen, living in his moms basement, who's still in highschool, is practically still on both the same intellectual and social level as a 23 year old who lives on his own, has completed both highschool and college, travelled to five of the seven continents, and to top it all off, spent 7 months in a warzone? Please Jon, i've heard a lot of stupid things whilst on these forums, but this one ranks right up near the top. I've never deemed myself an old soul, brimming with wisdom, but one thing I do know; when I was 16, I was utterly clueless compared to what I know now. If you want to enrobe yourself in a "feel good" stance on what it means to be 16, then go ahead. I don't care. If you want to think you and I are on the same intellectual level. I don't care. Whatever you need to get through the day. That all said and done, lets bring this back to the main issue at hand then shall we Jon?

Why is anyone in Afghanistan? Why don't we just bring our troops home?

Why? Answer that Jon, and feel free to delve in to your wealth of life experience to answer that. Also, please try to avoid the "where's my money" stance your championed as of late. It's tired. Give me some concrete reasons why we should pull out, especially now, after we've lost lives, and i'll shoot it down. You want to go head to head on this issue? Fine by me. You start.
 

JonB2004

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RE: 6th British soldier d

You want to go head to head. Maybe it would be best if we did that by PM so that its just you vs me.
 

Mogz

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RE: 6th British soldier d

No that's quite alright. You think you can explain to my why we should abandon Afghanistan, then do it here for all to see. If you'll note, when I get in to a head to head with someone on these forums, I remain head to head (e.g. My debate with aeon on Palestine). So fire away.
 

JonB2004

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RE: 6th British soldier d

Fine. So I'll start.

Now let's go back to 2001. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the U.S. invaded Afghanistan because of 9/11 and they believed that Osama bin Laden was living there and Canada followed the U.S. there.
 

FiveParadox

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Re: Removing Canada From Afghanistan

Despite the fact that the thread above seems to have developed into a "head-to-head" debate between two particular members, I would like to write up a short intervention in relation to my own opinion on the matter. I would suggest that Canada should, indeed, maintain the presence of the Canadian Forces in the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.

Our presence is encouraged and invited by His Excellency Mr. Hamid Karzai, the President of Afghanistan and, to that end, we have the support of the Government of Afghanistan in endeavouring toward peace in the area. We have a Government of Canada that wishes to continue our initiatives in the area; furthermore, we have a House of Commons that supports the mission.¹

To remove the Forces from Afghanistan now would only serve to create a dangerously high chance of having the degree of peace and order has been restored degrade, erode and collapse. To remove ourselves from the area once we have extended our assistance to the Afghani Government would be a most dishonourable act on the part of our Government, and would tarnish the Crown of Canada — something which would be maintained onward into the future, notwithstanding changes in Government.

We have the support of both our Government and theirs, so let's get the job done.

:arrow: Footnote
1. The consent of the House of Commons is in no way required to justify or continue an operation abroad; this reference is included merely as "icing on the cake", so to speak, since the management of the Forces is an exclusive prerogative of the Crown and therefore, by extention, the prime minister of the day and his or her ministry.