The FALSE CHOICE is now the ONLY CHOICE

jimmoyer

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The West did force a False Choice on
Palestine. Offering a two-state solution at the
beginning appeared fair to Westerners but of course
scared the hell out of residents already there, much
like the Muslim immigration in Europe and the Mexican
immigration to the States.

But as irony defeats all partisan facts and logic,
the False Choice of a Two-State Solution in all its
paradox has transformed itself into the ONLY SOLUTION
now.

You and I have certainly seen how the Arab world
has let its Palestinian brother down.

And we have certainly seen the Israeli pre-meditated planned wish to take over the West Bank with the settlements.

And we certainly saw that Jordan between 1948 and
1967 gave no sovereignty to Palestine, nor did any
significant Arab Marshall Plan of oil dollars come to
make Palestine a mentally healthy functioning society.

Instead their Arab friends watched their Palestinian
brothers line up through Customs depending upon the evil
Jew for a job.

Go figure.

I'll stay with the irony of seeing the False Choice in the
beginning as the ONLY CHOICE in the end.
 

aeon

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jimmoyer said:
The West did force a False Choice on
Palestine. Offering a two-state solution at the
beginning appeared fair to Westerners but of course
scared the hell out of residents already there, much
like the Muslim immigration in Europe and the Mexican
immigration to the States.

But as irony defeats all partisan facts and logic,
the False Choice of a Two-State Solution in all its
paradox has transformed itself into the ONLY SOLUTION
now.

You and I have certainly seen how the Arab world
has let its Palestinian brother down.

And we have certainly seen the Israeli pre-meditated planned wish to take over the West Bank with the settlements.

And we certainly saw that Jordan between 1948 and
1967 gave no sovereignty to Palestine, nor did any
significant Arab Marshall Plan of oil dollars come to
make Palestine a mentally healthy functioning society.

Instead their Arab friends watched their Palestinian
brothers line up through Customs depending upon the evil
Jew for a job.

Go figure.

I'll stay with the irony of seeing the False Choice in the
beginning as the ONLY CHOICE in the end.


Well then, let s drop nuclear bomb on them, since nobody wants to help them, sounds good right?

Until there is no recognition from the west of the stupidity of the israeli governement, there will be no peace.
 

jimmoyer

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Aeon, half of America rails against Israel on any given
day, along with most of the world, and along with
almost every United Nations vote.

I do believe Western Europe and North America
are very acquainted with the sin of Israel.

But what is the choice ?

We're still stuck with the Original False Choice in
the beginning as the ONLY CHOICE in the end.

On a very deep psychological level no one wins
after all these years if Israel is vaporized.

The wisest of all wisdom says that if these two
can live together, we've accomplished the highest
hope mankind can have.

IT'S POSSIBLE.

But we live in a microwave generation and we want
our food NOW.
 

darkbeaver

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RE: The FALSE CHOICE is n

I agree with your sentiment,JimMoyer but it's the old carrot and stick game, constant application of the stick has prevailed, the contest is one sided, there will never be a balanced resolution in the absence of balance. If you treat each side equaly the imbalance still exists, the greater side will not accept parity with the lesser. A resolution must be imposed, that of course was to have been the work of the UN, we see from the records who thwarted those attempts at resolution, untill the UN is alpha no resolution is possible.
 

aeon

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Re: RE: The FALSE CHOICE is now the ONLY CHOICE

jimmoyer said:
Aeon, half of America rails against Israel on any given
day, along with most of the world, and along with
almost every United Nations vote.

I do believe Western Europe and North America
are very acquainted with the sin of Israel.

But what is the choice ?

We're still stuck with the Original False Choice in
the beginning as the ONLY CHOICE in the end.

On a very deep psychological level no one wins
after all these years if Israel is vaporized.

The wisest of all wisdom says that if these two
can live together, we've accomplished the highest
hope mankind can have.

IT'S POSSIBLE.

But we live in a microwave generation and we want
our food NOW.

Most of the peoples in the world rail against israel, but the problem is not there, the problem is from our west governement who only see the bad side of the palestinians, when they should acknowledge also what the israeli governement are doing to the palestinians, which they dont.
 

jimmoyer

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Most of the peoples in the world rail against israel, but the problem is not there, the problem is from our west governement who only see the bad side of the palestinians, when they should acknowledge also what the israeli governement are doing to the palestinians, which they dont.
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How can you begin your sentence that the
world acknowledges and condemns Israeli sin and end with the thought that they don't ?

By the way, I've never seen you retail Palestinian
sin ever, or even remotely understand how the
Palestinians have hurt themselves and how the
Arab world's oil dollar is cynically missing on a
Marshall Plan for them, or how the arab oil dollar
quickly finds its way for destructive uses, just like
the Americans funding the Jews.

Perhaps you're as guilty as those you accuse ?
 

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The entire economy of the world is a wobbling tower of ceramic plates balancing on a chopstick in the hands of a pyramid of Saudi royals.
 

aeon

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Re: RE: The FALSE CHOICE is now the ONLY CHOICE

jimmoyer said:
How can you begin your sentence that the
world acknowledges and condemns Israeli sin and end with the thought that they don't ?

By the way, I've never seen you retail Palestinian
sin ever, or even remotely understand how the
Palestinians have hurt themselves and how the
Arab world's oil dollar is cynically missing on a
Marshall Plan for them, or how the arab oil dollar
quickly finds its way for destructive uses, just like
the Americans funding the Jews.

Perhaps you're as guilty as those you accuse ?


Are you plaging a game with me? cause if you are, you chooose the wrong guy, seriously.

I told you the world support palestinians, but politicien arent the whole world, capish? most of the americans i've met, support palesinians cause, most of the french too, but none of their leaders, acknowledge that israeli governement is a terrorist organisation, until then there is no peace.


The Israeli oppression and persecution of the Paelstinians doesn`t justify suicide bombings, but it does make them inevitable.

When you kill their children, destroy their homes, and destroyed them in ways never seen since the great wars, you push them to the corner. This is what Israel has done and continues to do.

Give the Palestinians their freedom and human rights, and they will not kill themselves and israelis.
 

jimmoyer

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Aeon, I'm quite sincere in talking to you.

I've never seen you retail Palestinian
sin ever, or even remotely understand how the
Palestinians have hurt themselves and how the
Arab world's oil dollar is cynically missing on a
Marshall Plan for them, or how the arab oil dollar
quickly finds its way for destructive uses, just like
the Americans funding the Jews.

It takes two sides to do this.

Not the unilateral one sided view you have.

I think you're as guilty as those who see no evil
with Israel.

I sincerely see you that way.
 

aeon

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Re: RE: The FALSE CHOICE is now the ONLY CHOICE

jimmoyer said:
Aeon, I'm quite sincere in talking to you.

I've never seen you retail Palestinian
sin ever, or even remotely understand how the
Palestinians have hurt themselves and how the
Arab world's oil dollar is cynically missing on a
Marshall Plan for them, or how the arab oil dollar
quickly finds its way for destructive uses, just like
the Americans funding the Jews.

It takes two sides to do this.

Not the unilateral one sided view you have.

I think you're as guilty as those who see no evil
with Israel.

I sincerely see you that way.


Like i said,The Israeli oppression and persecution of the Paelstinians doesn`t justify suicide bombings, but it does make them inevitable.

Probably i am just guilty as those who see no evil with israel, but i dont support what the extremist palestinians does,we all know from our leader and media that they are bad and so on, but no one acknowledge that israelis governement is also a terrorist organisations, that shows the credibility of our leaders and media, putting the blame on oppressed peoples is lame and retarded.
 

jimmoyer

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Probably i am just guilty as those who see no evil with israel, but i dont support what the extremist palestinians does,we all know from our leader and media that they are bad and so on, but no one acknowledge that israelis governement is also a terrorist organisations, that shows the credibility of our leaders and media, putting the blame on oppressed peoples is lame and retarded.

-------------------------aeon------------------------

That's the first time I've seen you budge on this
matter. You might have done so before, but this
is the first time I've seen it.