All NORTH Americans must see "United 93"

[zoofer]

All Americans must see "United 93"
By Dennis Prager
Apr 18, 2006

Universal's new movie, "United 93," is about United Airlines Flight 93, hijacked on 9-11 by Islamic terrorists shortly after leaving Newark, N.J., for San Francisco. The terrorists intended to fly the plane to Washington, D.C., and crash it into the Capitol. Instead, the passengers fought back and forced the plane down in Pennsylvania, thereby saving the lives of any number of people on the ground in Washington and saving America from a devastating blow to its image.

Incredibly there is some controversy about this film. Apparently many Americans are not "ready" to see a film about 9-11 "so soon" after 9-11.
If this is so, it is an ode to the weakening of the American people.
Five years after the most devastating attack on American soil, people are asking if Americans are ready to see a film -- not some fictional, politically driven, reality-distorting film by Oliver Stone, but a film based on the phone conversations of the passengers and flight attendants, on the flight recorder tape, and approved by the families of all 40 passengers -- one of the most terrible and heroic events in American history.

Did anyone ask in 1946, five years after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, whether Americans were prepared to see a film about the Japanese attack?
If anything should be controversial, it is Hollywood going AWOL while its country fights the scourge of our time, Islamic totalitarianism. For five years, America has been battling people who are dedicated to destroying every value that Hollywood claims to care most about -- freedom, tolerance, women's rights, secular government, equality for gays -- and Hollywood has yet to make a film depicting, let alone honoring, this war.
Finally, a major studio comes out with a film reminding Americans about the nature of our enemy, about what really happened (to the best of our ability to reconstruct) on one of the 9-11 planes, and the press wonders if Americans are "ready" to see the movie.

Universal invited me to see a preview, and unless they change it (or don't drop a few gratuitous, politically inspired words that appeared right after the film ends), I believe it is just about every American's duty to see this film. There is no gratuitous violence -- if anything, Universal went out of its way to prevent us from seeing the reality of the throat-slashing of passengers and crew -- but there is unremitting tension and sadness, since we all know what will happen to these unsuspecting people, and we know this is real, not fiction.
There is also American heroism. People completely unprepared for an airplane flight to become their last hour alive rise to the occasion and save fellow Americans from death and from the humiliation of having their nation's capitol building destroyed.
The only people likely to object to this film are those who don't want Americans to become aware of just how conscienceless, cruel and depraved our enemy is, or those who think that our enemies can always be negotiated with and therefore object to depicting Americans actually fighting back.
Teenage and older children in particular should see this film. If the younger teens have nightmares, comfort them. But young Americans need to know the nature of whom we are fighting. If they are attending a typical American high school or college, they probably don't know.

Congratulations to Universal Studios on making this film (presuming that, as assured to me, they removed the post-film politically inspired message). And shame on Hollywood for only making one such film in five years.
Perhaps if "United 93" turns out to be the unforeseen box office success that Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" was, the lure of major profits will exert more influence over Hollywood than even Hollywood leftists do.
In the meantime, go and see "United 93," to see why some Americans still take "Home of the brave" seriously; and to see why we have to win this war more than any since World War II. That's how bad our enemy is. You have an unfortunately rare chance to see that enemy at work when you see what happened to everyone who boarded United Airlines Flight 93 that left Newark on September 11, 2001.

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/dennisprager/2006/04/18/194005.html

 

[darkbeaver]

RE: All NORTH Americans

Piece of crap, it'll probubly do well at the box office though because it's the kind of crap Americans can understand, and it's obviously what passes for educational for you why don't you try and remember that it's entertainment Zoofer not history. Just another pitiful attempt to mobilize to action a nation of fat hydro-carbon junkies to stupid to know who's really screwing them.

 

[missile]

I would like to believe that ,in the same situation,I would go down with the plane with my hands tight on one of the hijacker's throats :evil:

 

[I think not]

No thanks, I saw a preview of it and it was enough for me, I lived through the day up close and personal, I don't need to be reminded of it.

 

[tracy]

I don't plan on seeing it either. I just don't like how their deaths have been turned into a piece of entertainment. Maybe it's wierd, but I go to movies to be entertained. I don't need to see one more replay of "Let's roll".

 

[aeon]

All Americans must see "United 93"
By Dennis Prager
Apr 18, 2006

Universal's new movie, "United 93," is about United Airlines Flight 93, hijacked on 9-11 by Islamic terrorists shortly after leaving Newark, N.J., for San Francisco. The terrorists intended to fly the plane to Washington, D.C., and crash it into the Capitol. Instead, the passengers fought back and forced the plane down in Pennsylvania, thereby saving the lives of any number of people on the ground in Washington and saving America from a devastating blow to its image.


http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/dennisprager/2006/04/18/194005.html

Reason not to see it?

United 93, was shot down.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30682

 

[thecdn]

Re: RE: All NORTH Americans must see "United 93"

I don't plan on seeing it either. I just don't like how their deaths have been turned into a piece of entertainment. Maybe it's wierd, but I go to movies to be entertained. I don't need to see one more replay of "Let's roll".

That about sums it up.

 

[Johnny Utah]

All Americans must see "United 93"
By Dennis Prager
Apr 18, 2006

Universal's new movie, "United 93," is about United Airlines Flight 93, hijacked on 9-11 by Islamic terrorists shortly after leaving Newark, N.J., for San Francisco. The terrorists intended to fly the plane to Washington, D.C., and crash it into the Capitol. Instead, the passengers fought back and forced the plane down in Pennsylvania, thereby saving the lives of any number of people on the ground in Washington and saving America from a devastating blow to its image.


http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/dennisprager/2006/04/18/194005.html

Reason not to see it?

United 93, was shot down.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30682

Sorry Sport that Conspiracy Theory doesn't fly anymore!
Text of Flight 93 Recording.
April 12, 2006
Foxnews.com
The following is a transcript of the cockpit voice recorder aboard United Airlines Flight 93. All times are in EDT on Sept. 11, 2001. Text in parentheses was translated from Arabic. "Unintelligible" indicates that the tape couldn't be transcribed.
___________________________
09:31:57 — Ladies and gentlemen: Here the captain, please sit down keep remaining seating. We have a bomb on board. So sit.

09:32:09 — Er, uh ... Calling Cleveland center ... You're unreadable. Say again slowly.

09:32:10 — Don't move. Shut up.

09:32:13 — Come on, come.

09:32:16 — Shut up.

09:32:17 — Don't move.

09:32:18 — Stop.

09:32:34 — Sit, sit, sit down.

09:32:39 — Sit down.

09:32:41 — Unintelligible ... (the brother.)

09:32:54 — Stop.

09:33:09 — No more. Sit down.

09:33:10 — (That's it, that's it, that's it), down, down.

09:33:14 — Shut up.

09:33:20 — Unintelligible

09:33:20 — We just, we didn't get it clear ... Is that United 93 calling?

09:33:30 — (Jassim.)

09:33:34 — (In the name of Allah, the most merciful, the most compassionate.)

09:33:41 — Unintelligible.

09:33:43 — Finish, no more. No more.

09:33:49 — No. No, no, no, no.

09:33:53 — No, no, no, no.

09:34:00 — Go ahead, lie down. Lie down. Down, down, down.

09:34:06 — (There is someone ... Huh?)

09:34:12 — Down, down, down. Sit down. Come on, sit down. No, no, no, no, no. No.

09:34:16 — Down, down, down.

09:34:21 — Down.

09:34:25 — No more.

09:34:26 — No more. Down.

09:34:27 — Please, please, please ...

09:34:28 — Down.

09:34:29 — Please, please, don't hurt me ...

09:34:30 — Down. No more.

09:34:31 — Oh God.

09:34:32 — Down, down, down.

09:34:33 — Sit down.

09:34:34 — Shut up.

09:34:42 — No more.

09:34:46 — (This?)

09:34:47 — Yes.

09:34:47 — Unintelligible.

09:34:57 — (One moment, one moment.)

09:34:59 — Unintelligible.

09:35:03 — No more.

09:35:06 — Down, down, down, down.

09:35:09 — No, no, no, no, no, no...

09:35:10 — Unintelligible.

09:35:15 — Sit down, sit down, sit down.

09:35:17 — Down.

09:35:18 — (What's this?)

09:35:19 — Sit down. Sit down. You know, sit down.

09:35:24 — No, no, no.

09:35:30 — Down, down, down, down.

09:35:32 — Are you talking to me?

09:35:33 — No, no, no. Unintelligible.

09:35:35 — Down in the airport.

09:35:39 — Down, down.

09:35:40 — I don't want to die.

09:35:41 — No, no. Down, down.

09:35:42 — I don't want to die. I don't want to die.

09:35:44 — No, no. Down, down, down, down, down, down.

09:35:47 — No, no, please.

09:35:57 — No.

09:37:06 — (That's it. Go back.)

09:37:06 — (That's it.) Sit down.

09:37:36 —(Everthing is fine. I finished.)

09:38:36 — (Yes.)

09:39:11 — Ah. Here's the captain. I would like to tell you all to remain seated. We have a bomb aboard, and we are going back to the airport, and we have our demands. So, please remain quiet.

09:39:21 — OK. That's 93 calling?

09:39:24 — (One moment.)

09:39:34 — United 93. I understand you have a bomb on board. Go ahead.

09:39:42 — And center exec jet nine fifty-six. That was the transmission.

09:39:47 — OK. Ah. Who called Cleveland?

09:39:52 — Executive jet nine fifty-six, did you understand that transmission?

09:39:56 — Affirmative. He said that there was a bomb on board.

09:39:58 — That was all you got out of it also?

09:40:01 — Affirmative.

09:40:03 — Roger.

09:40:03 — United 93. Go ahead.

09:40:14 — United 93. Go ahead.

09:40:17 — Ahhh.

09:40:52 — (This green knob?)

09:40:54 — (Yes, that's the one.)

09:41:05 — United 93, do you hear the Cleveland center?

09:41:14 — (One moment. One moment.)

09:41:15 — Unintelligible.

09:41:56 — Oh man.

09:44:18 — (This does not work now.)

09:45:13 — Turn it off.

09:45:16 — (... Seven thousand ...)

09:45:19 — (How about we let them in? We let the guys in now.)

09:45:23 — (OK.)

09:45:24 — (Should we let the guys in?)

09:45:25 — (Inform them, and tell him to talk to the pilot. Bring the pilot back.)

09:45:57 — (In the name of Allah. In the name of Allah. I bear witness that there is no other God, but Allah.)

09:47:31 — Unintelligible.

09:47:40 — (Allah knows.)

09:48:15 — Unintelligible.

09:48:38 — Set course.

09:49:37 — Unintelligible.

09:51:27 — Unintelligible.

09:51:35 — Unintelligible.

09:52:02 — Unintelligible.

09:52:31 — Unintelligible.

09:53:20 — (The best thing: The guys will go in, lift up the) ... Unintelligible ... (and they put the axe into it. So, everyone will be scared.)

09:53:27 — (Yes.)

09:53:28 — (The axe.)

09:53:28 — Unintelligible.

09:53:29 — (No, not the.)

09:53:35 — (Let him look through the window. Let him look through the window.)

09:53:52 — Unintelligible.

09:54:09 — (Open.)

09:54:11 — Unintelligible.

09:55:06 — You are ... One ...

09:56:15 — Unintelligible.

09:57:55 — (Is there something?)

09:57:57 — (A fight?)

09:57:59 — (Yeah?)

09:58:33 — Unintelligible. (Let's go guys. Allah is greatest. Allah is greatest. Oh guys. Allah is greatest.)

09:58:41 — Ugh.

09:58:43 — Ugh.

09:58:44 — (Oh Allah. Oh Allah. Oh the most gracious.)

09:58:47 — Ugh. Ugh.

09:58:52 — Stay back.

09:58:55 — In the cockpit.

09:58:57 — In the cockpit.

09:58:57 — (They want to get in here. Hold, hold from the inside. Hold from the inside. Hold).

09:59:04 — Hold the door.

09:59:09 — Stop him.

09:59:11 — Sit down.

09:59:13 — Sit down.

09:59:15 — Sit down.

09:59:16 — Unintelligible.

09:59:17 — (What?)

09:59:18 — (There are some guys. All those guys.)

09:59:20 — Lets get them.

09:59:25 — Sit down.

09:59:29 — (What?)

09:59:30 — (What.)

09:59:31 — (What?)

09:59:36 — Unintelligible.

09:59:37 — (What?)

09:59:39 — Unintelligible.

09:59:41 — Unintelligible.

09:59:42 — (Trust in Allah, and in him.)

09:59:45 — Sit down.

09:59:47 — Unintelligible.

09:59:53 — Ahh.

09:59:55 — Unintelligible.

09:59:58 — Ahh.

10:00:06 — (There is nothing.)

10:00:07 — (Is that it? Shall we finish it off?)

10:00:08 — (No. Not yet.)

10:00:09 — (When they all come, we finish it off.)

10:00:11 — (There is nothing.)

10:00:13 — Unintelligible.

10:00:14 — Ahh.

10:00:15 — I'm injured.

10:00:16 — Unintelligible.

10:00:21 — Ahh.

10:00:22 — (Oh Allah. Oh Allah. Oh gracious.)

10:00:25 — In the cockpit. If we don't, we'll die.

10:00:29 — (Up, down. Up, down, in the) cockpit.

10:00:33 — (The) cockpit.

10:00:37 — (Up, down. Saeed, up, down.)

10:00:42 — Roll it.

10:00:55 — Unintelligible.

10:00:59 — (Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.)

10:01:01 — Unintelligible.

10:01:08 — (Is that it? I mean, shall we pull it down?)

10:01:09 — (Yes, put it in it, and pull it down.)

10:01:10 — Unintelligible.

10:01:11 — (Saeed.)

10:01:12 — ... engine ...

10:01:13 — Unintelligible.

10:01:16 — (Cut off the oxygen.)

10:01:18 — (Cut off the oxygen. Cut off the oxygen. Cut off the oxygen.)

10:01:34 — Unintelligible.

10:01:37 — Unintelligible.

10:01:41 — (Up, down. Up, down.)

10:01:41 — (What?)

10:01:42 — (Up, down.)

10:01:42 — Ahh.

10:01:53 — Ahh.

10:01:54 — Unintelligible.

10:01:55 — Ahh.

10:01:59 — Shut them off.

10:02:03 — Shut them off.

10:02:14 — Go.

10:02:14 — Go.

10:02:15 — Move.

10:02:16 — Move.

10:02:17 — Turn it up.

10:02:18 — (Down, down.)

10:02:23 — (Pull it down. Pull it down.)

10:02:25 — Down. Push, push, push, push, push.

10:02:33 — (Hey. Hey. Give it to me. Give it to me.)

10:02:35 — (Give it to me. Give it to me. Give it to me.)

10:02:37 — (Give it to me. Give it to me. Give it to me.)

10:02:40 — Unintelligible.

10:03:02 — (Allah is the greatest.)

10:03:03 — (Allah is the greatest.)

10:03:04 — (Allah is the greatest.)

10:03:06 — (Allah is the greatest.)

10:03:06 — (Allah is the greatest.)

10:03:07 — No.

10:03:09 — (Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.)

10:03:09 — (Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.)
This proves Flight 93 wasn't shot down! Take your Conspiracy Theories and get a Life! :wink:

 

[darkbeaver]

RE: All NORTH Americans

Johnny Utah how do you know the tapes are real?

 

[FiveParadox]

darkbeaver, with all due respect, I don't think the onus is on the authorities to prove the authenticity of the tapes — rather, I would think that it would be the prerogative of those opposed to the current inrepretation of events to prove any sort of "faults" in the recording.

 

[Jersay]

I'm not going to see it. And that is that.

 

[pastafarian]

Nah, I've done my bit watching "Team America: World Police" and the "Rambo" trilogy.

 

[mabudon]

RE: All NORTH Americans

I hope it explains how the debris spread itself across 8 miles after "hitting the ground" if it truly wasn';t shot down

 

[darkbeaver]

Re: RE: All NORTH Americans must see "United 93"

darkbeaver, with all due respect, I don't think the onus is on the authorities to prove the authenticity of the tapes — rather, I would think that it would be the prerogative of those opposed to the current inrepretation of events to prove any sort of "faults" in the recording.

I'm a suspicious sort FiveP, I see the pieces and parts spread over a wide area and read what eye witnesses said about the crash and I naturally wonder about the details we see described as official.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Re: RE: All NORTH Americans

Johnny Utah how do you know the tapes are real?

The tapes from the cockpit from Flight 93 have been proven to be real. Family members from the victims of Flight 93 have heard the tapes themselves. There is no question what so ever except for the Conspiracy Theory Moonbats who have nothing better to do.

But hey if you want to try to come up with a Conspiracy Theory saying the Family Members who heard the tapes were in on a Conspiracy concerning the tapes go for it, I dare you. :roll:

 

[aeon]

Re: RE: All NORTH Americans

Johnny Utah how do you know the tapes are real?

The tapes from the cockpit from Flight 93 have been proven to be real. Family members from the victims of Flight 93 have heard the tapes themselves. There is no question what so ever except for the Conspiracy Theory Moonbats who have nothing better to do.

But hey if you want to try to come up with a Conspiracy Theory saying the Family Members who heard the tapes were in on a Conspiracy concerning the tapes go for it, I dare you. :roll:

There is witnesses who support the claim that the plane was shot down, and the link that i brought is a pro-right wing web site.


How the tapes are real??

It is the transcript from the movie, get a grip on your life, and more importantly there is nothing in your transcript that proves that the plane wasnt shot down.

 

[aeon]

Re: RE: All NORTH Americans must see "United 93"

darkbeaver, with all due respect, I don't think the onus is on the authorities to prove the authenticity of the tapes — rather, I would think that it would be the prerogative of those opposed to the current inrepretation of events to prove any sort of "faults" in the recording.

I would prefer to believe direct eyewiteneses than people who are constantly lying on everything to us, and i mean everything.

 

[I think not]

Re: RE: All NORTH Americans must see "United 93"

I prefer to believe direct eyewiteneses than people who are constantly lying on everything to us, and i mean everything.

Ah ok then, good point. Regarding the Pentagon plane:

"It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane," Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here."

Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. "There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in."

A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "It added power on its way in," he said. "The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,550486,00.html

 

[aeon]

Re: RE: All NORTH Americans must see "United 93"

I prefer to believe direct eyewiteneses than people who are constantly lying on everything to us, and i mean everything.

Ah ok then, good point. Regarding the Pentagon plane:

"It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane," Mr Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here."

Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. "There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in."

A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. "It added power on its way in," he said. "The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,550486,00.html

There is at least 11 witnesses who saw a c-130H, smaller plane than a 757, there is also the fact that media didnt start with jet liner, but more with a military plane, then 2 hours after the attack, they change their mind for a 757.

 

[I think not]

Round and round we go, where will it stop, nobody knows.

People believe what they want to believe. Right aeon?