Bush speech worries people

Jersay

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush held out the possibility on Tuesday of a U.S. troop presence in Iraq for many years, saying a full withdrawal would depend on decisions by future U.S. presidents and Iraqi governments.


Bush, struggling to rebound from low job approval ratings that he blamed largely on the war, was asked at a news conference if there would come a time when no U.S. troops are in Iraq.

"That, of course, is an objective. And that will be decided by future presidents and future governments of Iraq," said Bush, who will be president until January 2009.

Three years after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, there are 133,000 U.S. troops in the country.

Bush has laid the groundwork for possible U.S. troop reductions by the end of the year, saying he aims to get Iraqi forces sufficiently trained to take over by then.

But until now he had not given a prediction on how long there might be an American presence. Many Arabs are concerned that the United States might want a permanent presence in Iraq, and those concerns were likely to be heightened by Bush's comments.

Opinion polls show Americans have become increasingly dissatisfied over a war in which more than 2,300 U.S. troops have died. Democrats have seized on this in a congressional election year to criticize the Republican president's handling of the war.

Appearing for nearly an hour at his second formal solo news conference of the year, Bush mixed his prognosis of progress in Iraq with a realistic description of events, reflecting a recent White House pattern of admitting mistakes have been made in the war.

He acknowledged errors in the Iraqi reconstruction effort had cost valuable time in rebuilding and said the U.S. military was adjusting to insurgent tactics.

But he insisted that his bedrock belief remained that Iraq can become a beacon of democracy in the Middle East.

"I'm optimistic we'll succeed," he said. "If not, I'd pull our troops out. If I didn't believe we had a plan for victory, I wouldn't leave our people in harm's way."

Bush said insurgent attacks that have killed hundreds of Iraqis in recent weeks were designed in part by the attackers to create horrific images for U.S. television screens and generate doubts about the mission among Americans.

"Please don't take that as criticism," Bush told reporters. "But it also is a realistic assessment of the enemy's capability to affect the debate, and they know that."

Bush also said he disagreed with those who said Iraq had fallen into a civil war.

Asked whether he agreed with former Iraqi interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi's comments that Iraq was already in civil war, Bush said: "I do not, there are other voices coming out of Iraq."

"We all recognize that there is violence, that there is sectarian violence," Bush said. "The way I look at it the Iraqis took a look and decided not to give in to civil war."

A Newsweek magazine poll conducted last week showed Bush's approval rating fell to 36 percent, down 21 points from a year ago, amid discontent about Iraq. The survey said 65 percent of Americans were dissatisfied with Bush's handling of the war.

"I fully understand the consequences of this war. I understand people's lives are being lost," Bush said.

"But I also understand the consequences of not achieving our objective by leaving too early. Iraq would become a place of instability, a place from which the enemy can plot, plan and attack," he added.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060321...VRqP0AC;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

He's got a plan for victory.

:lol:
 

FiveParadox

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I share those concerns; however, as I am not a citizen of the United States of America, I suppose that is of no consequence. Nevertheless, I would hope that His Excellency the Honourable George Bush, the President of the United States of America, would consider in his future discussions and debates concerning the future of the mission in Iraq the long-term consequences of a long-term occupation of the nation — removing themselves after such a long period of time could cause the democratic practices of the nation to stall and fall apart, in the absence of someone who — whether or not they should have been there in the first place is not the question at hand — is no longer there.
 

Jersay

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You make a good point.

Also, to make a true democratic government you can't support Iraqi officials or political parties that are based on ethnic lines who might cause hatred when incidents like the bombing in Sammarra last month caused.

Or parties that have links to the security forces and 'deathsquads and armed gangs'. For it to be a true democracy.
 

Kreskin

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In some ways I feel sorry for guy. The neo conservative movement used him like a rented mule and he has to carry their baggage.
 

Jo Canadian

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PEI...for now
 

aeon

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Jersay said:
I don't feel sorry for the guy.

If anyone hear's god and acts in this 'god's' name should be in a mental institute not the White House.


Totally agree, but the white house and mental institute isnt that much different.
 

sanch

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Jersay said:
I don't feel sorry for the guy.

If anyone hear's god and acts in this 'god's' name should be in a mental institute not the White House.

Rich cats don't usually get into heaven so I doubt God takes this seriously. And if it ain't God we have to wonder who the voice he hears belongs to.

I wonder if these guys ever think about this sure impossibility? Maybe they go to sleep when the camel and the needle comes up in sermons. Maybe it's Orwell's doublethink. Still you would think that somewhere in the Bible belt someone would be curious enough to make this connection. But nada. This is what really befuddles me.
 

Jay

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I think people in the Bible belt are trying to get a tax cut, but rich Democrats don't want that to happen.
 

Jay

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I don't think Five jokes about things like formatting, protocols and such... :p
 

darkbeaver

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sanch said:
Jersay said:
I don't feel sorry for the guy.

If anyone hear's god and acts in this 'god's' name should be in a mental institute not the White House.

Rich cats don't usually get into heaven so I doubt God takes this seriously. And if it ain't God we have to wonder who the voice he hears belongs to.

I wonder if these guys ever think about this sure impossibility? Maybe they go to sleep when the camel and the needle comes up in sermons. Maybe it's Orwell's doublethink. Still you would think that somewhere in the Bible belt someone would be curious enough to make this connection. But nada. This is what really befuddles me.

Sanch,the camel through the eye of the needle being more likely than a rich man entering heaven has been going through my head too. These nutty American christians must not have understood the rule or they hate jesus, I wonder what it is. In the eightys I think, the highest consumption of pornography was in the bible belt, doublethink, doublespeak, doubleplusgood.
 

Machjo

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sanch said:
Jersay said:
I don't feel sorry for the guy.

If anyone hear's god and acts in this 'god's' name should be in a mental institute not the White House.

Rich cats don't usually get into heaven so I doubt God takes this seriously. And if it ain't God we have to wonder who the voice he hears belongs to.

I wonder if these guys ever think about this sure impossibility? Maybe they go to sleep when the camel and the needle comes up in sermons. Maybe it's Orwell's doublethink. Still you would think that somewhere in the Bible belt someone would be curious enough to make this connection. But nada. This is what really befuddles me.

They don't read the bible; the preacher interprets it for them.