US Ports run by UAE?

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Well well. The US gov't has decided to have the major ports on the east coast run by a company headed out of the United Arab Emirates.

Of course, the UAE is a key ally of the US, but we wonder; after all, it wasn't that long ago that Iraq was an ally. Does it make sense to have your major ports run by a company out of the UAE? Would anyone in their right mind consider that there wouldn't be a strong possibility of security issues around this?

Does anyone in the current Whitehouse have a brain? Hello Hello.
 

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No, unfortunately they do not. And Bush has already stated he will veto any attempt of Congress to block it, although if they get 3/4 of the Senate vote, he can't veto it. The GOP isn't happy about this one either.
 

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I agree, this is hypocrisy of the highest order. Bill Frist (Senate Majority Leader) has even said publicly if this isn't delayed for further congressional review he will introduce legislation to delay it, and Frist is a big time supporter of Bush.
 

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I don’t understand why a company should be denied a contract on the basis of national origin or ethnicity. I don’t recall any terrorists coming from the UAE.
 

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On the face of it, when you are making a big push to make your ports more secure against international terrorism, it would seem slightly odd to have your major ports run by a company headquarted in a foreign country. Digging down a layer, it would make less sense to have these ports run by a company headquartered in a foreign country located in the midst of the current hotspot for problems.

But what do we know. I'm sure everything will be just fine, and there's no possible way that any security information could ever make it into the wrong hands.
After all, it's not a French company, so it must be ok.
 

Said1

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Wouldn't they be working in conjunction with the Port Authority, FBI and whomever else? Before the UAE it was a British company, I think.
 

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That's part of the problem Said1, this deal was shrouded in secrecy, typical of the way the Bush administration conducts its business. Nobody knows.
 

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sanch said:
I don’t understand why a company should be denied a contract on the basis of national origin or ethnicity. I don’t recall any terrorists coming from the UAE.
Then you haven't been paying much attention - UAE funneled money, allowed passage, and provided communications to Al Qaida.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1:558...~E~R~+Used+as+Transit+Points.html?refid=ip_hf

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w...node=&contentId=A2005-2002Feb25&notFound=true

http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,561000,00.html

But Bush is going to push this through any way that he can, eh?
Hey Zoofer - so what does Wingnut, Bush's favorite Bum-Boy, have to say now? LMAO!
 

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A few issues:

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I don’t understand why a company should be denied a contract on the basis of national origin or ethnicity. I don’t recall any terrorists coming from the UAE.

Can you personally vouch for every terrorist on earth and say that none are from The UAE? Can you personally vouch that no members of the UAE Company planning to overtake the ports isn't sypathetic to anti-Americanism? No, you cannot. Just because you haven't see any UAE terrorist with their brians splattered all over CNN, that doesn't mean they don't exist. This idea is sheer stupidity, having a nation deeply rooted in islam run your major ports. A religion that has millions of followers inspired to kill Americans wherever they can be found.

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Wouldn't they be working in conjunction with the Port Authority, FBI and whomever else? Before the UAE it was a British company, I think.

You should read up on whole issue. The port authority in the U.S. inspects less than %5 of all incoming shipments. That's a large room for error and oversight. How do you think human smuggling from Asia works? They load up humans in to sea containers and ship them in to the U.S. Some are picked up, but many slip through. The same method could be used for terrorists, weapons, bioagents, the list goes on. As for the Brits running the ports. British...Arabs....British....Arabs. British allied in Iraq....Arabs claim jihad....need I say more?
 

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I think not said:
That's part of the problem Said1, this deal was shrouded in secrecy, typical of the way the Bush administration conducts its business. Nobody knows.

Regardless, I can see how that would be a risky endevour. Good in a way for info sharing, too bad the Canadians aren't doing it. :p
 

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Re: RE: US Ports run by UAE?

Mogz said:
A few issues:

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I don’t understand why a company should be denied a contract on the basis of national origin or ethnicity. I don’t recall any terrorists coming from the UAE.


Can you personally vouch for every terrorist on earth and say that none are from The UAE? Can you personally vouch that no members of the UAE Company planning to overtake the ports isn't sypathetic to anti-Americanism? No, you cannot. Just because you haven't see any UAE terrorist with their brians splattered all over CNN, that doesn't mean they don't exist. This idea is sheer stupidity, having a nation deeply rooted in islam run your major ports. A religion that has millions of followers inspired to kill Americans wherever they can be found.


I meant to say I don’t recall any of the 9/11 terrorists coming from the UAE. As I recall they were Saudis and Egyptians and maybe a Yemeni. Al Qaeda has people and its tentacles in almost very country on the planet. I think it is a serious mistake to assume all al Qaeda members are Arab. They are recruiting Europeans. One of the London bombers was West Indian.

It's only a very small segment of the Muslim population that are militant. The greater the degree of integration for the rest the less likely the militants can hide among them. I am very opposed to the militants and their quest for jihad.

After the performance of FEMA and Homeland Security with Katrina I don’t see hiring a UAE firm as stupid.
 

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The Dirty Little Secret behind the UAE Port Security Scandal
By David Sirota
Working for Change

Wednesday 22 February 2006

Politicians and the media are loudly decrying the Bush administration's proposal to turn over port security to a firm owned by the United Arab Emirates (UAE) - a country with ties to terrorists. They are talking tough about national security - but almost no one is talking about what may have fueled the administration's decision to push forward with this deal: the desire to move forward Big Money's "free" trade agenda.

How much does "free" trade have to do with this? How about a lot. The Bush administration is in the middle of a two-year push to ink a corporate-backed "free" trade accord with the UAE. At the end of 2004, in fact, it was Bush Trade Representative Robert Zoellick who proudly boasted of his trip to the UAE to begin negotiating the trade accord. Rejecting this port security deal might have set back that trade pact. Accepting the port security deal - regardless of the security consequences - likely greases the wheels for the pact. That's probably why instead of backing off the deal, President Bush - supposedly Mr. Tough on National Secuirty - took the extraordinary step of threatening to use the first veto of his entire presidency to protect the UAE's interests. Because he knows protecting those interetsts - regardless of the security implications for America - is integral to the "free" trade agenda all of his corporate supporters are demanding.

The Inter Press Service highlights exactly what's at stake, quoting a conservative activists who admits that this is all about trade:

"The United States' trade relationship with the UAE is the third largest in the Middle East, after Israel and Saudi Arabia. The two nations are engaged in bilateral free talks that would liberalise trade between the two countries and would, in theory at least, allow companies to own and operate businesses in both nations. 'There are legitimate security questions to be asked but it would be a mistake and really an insult to one of our leading trading partners in that region to reject this commercial transaction out of hand,' said Daniel T. Griswold, who directs the Center for Trade Policy Studies at the Cato Institute, a Washington-based libertarian think tank."

Look, we've seen this before. Just last year, Congress approved a US taxpayer-funded loan by the Bush administration to a British company to help build nuclear technology in Communist China. Despite major security concerns raised - and a legislative effort to block the loan - Congress's "free traders" (many of whom talk so tough on security) made sure the loan went through so as to preserve the US-China free trade relationship that is allowing lawmakers' corporate campaign contributors export so many US jobs.

There is no better proof that our government takes its orders from corporate interests than these kinds of moves. That's what this UAE deal is all about - the mixture of the right-wing's goal of privatizing all government services (even post 9/11 port security!) with the political Establishment's desire to make sure Tom-Friedman-style "free" trade orthodoxy supersedes everything. This is where the culture of corruption meets national security policy - and, more specifically, where the unbridled corruption of on-the-take politicians are weakening America's security.

The fact that no politicians and almost no media wants to even explore this simple fact is telling. Here we have a major US security scandal with the same country we are simultaneously negotiating a free trade pact with, and no one in Washington is saying a thing. The silence tells you all you need to know about a political/media establishment that is so totally owned by Big Money interests they won't even talk about what's potentially at the heart of a burgeoning national security scandal.