Cartoon Protesters Direct Anger at U.S.

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QALAT, Afghanistan - Police killed four people Wednesday as Afghans enraged over drawings of the Prophet Muhammad marched on a U.S. military base in a volatile southern province, directing their anger not against Europe but America.

The U.S. base was targeted because the United States "is the leader of Europe and the leading infidel in the world," said Sher Mohammed, a 40-year-old farmer who suffered a gunshot wound while taking part in the demonstration in the city of Qalat.

"They are all the enemy of Islam. They are occupiers in our country and must be driven out," Mohammed said.

Wednesday's violence began when hundreds of protesters tried to storm the U.S. base, said Ghulam Nabi Malakhail, a provincial police chief. When warning shots failed to deter them, police shot into the crowd, killing four and wounding 11, he said.

Flying rocks injured eight police and one Afghan soldier, he said.

Two Pakistanis arrested for allegedly firing at police were being questioned to see whether they were linked to al-Qaida, Malakhail said. Some officials accuse al-Qaida of inciting three days of bloody riots across Afghanistan that have left 11 dead.

Protesters also burned three fuel tankers waiting to deliver gasoline to the base, said Malakhail. He said U.S. troops fired warning shots into the air.

U.S. military spokesman Col. James Yonts said the American forces fired flares above the crowd, but he said it was not clear whether they fired their weapons.

Muslims around the world have demonstrated over the images — including one depicting the prophet wearing a turban shaped as a bomb — printed in Western media. Islam is interpreted to forbid any illustrations of the prophet.

In Baghdad, Iraq's top Shiite political leader criticized attacks on foreign embassies by Muslims.

"We value and appreciate peaceful Islamic protests," said Abdul Aziz al-Hakim. "But we are against the idea of attacking embassies and other official sites."

In the West Bank, about 300 Palestinians overpowered a Palestinian police detail and attacked an international observer mission in the city of Hebron.

Sixty members of the mission were inside, said Gunhild Forselv, spokeswoman for the Temporary International Presence in Hebron. A few protesters forced their way in, where unarmed observers waved clubs in an attempt to drive them off. Police reinforcements eventually restored order.

Muslims also demonstrated in Indian-controlled Kashmir, Bangladesh, Bosnia-Herzegovina, and in Turkey.

In Washington, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice accused Iran and Syria of instigating protests in their countries, and President Bush called upon governments to stop the violence and protect the lives of diplomats overseas.

The United States and other countries were looking into whether extremist groups may be inciting protesters to riot, said Yonts, the U.S. spokesman in Afghanistan.

Iranian vice president Isfandiar Rahim Mashaee rejected Rice's assertion that Iran was inflaming Muslim anger over the cartoons. "That is 100 percent a lie," Mashaee said in Jakarta, Indonesia. "It is without attribution."

Zahor Afghan, editor for Erada, Afghanistan's most respected newspaper, said the riots in his country have surprised him.

"No media in Afghanistan has published or broadcast pictures of these cartoons. The radio has been reporting on it, but there are definitely people using this to incite violence against the presence of foreigners in Afghanistan," he said.

Afghans who rioted Wednesday said they heard about the cartoons on the radio but none questioned had seen printed versions.

"The radio is talking about them all the time. Everybody heard about them this way," said 28-year-old shopkeeper Ramatullah, who uses only name.

Wednesday's riot erupted despite an appeal from Afghanistan's top Islamic organization, the Ulama Council, for an end to the violence.

"Islam says it's all right to demonstrate but not to resort to violence. This must stop," senior cleric Mohammed Usman told The Associated Press. "We condemn the cartoons but this does not justify violence. These rioters are defaming the name of Islam."

In France, President Jacques Chirac asked media to avoid offending religious beliefs as another French newspaper reprinted the caricatures. The satirical French weekly Charlie-Hebdo also printed a new drawing under the headline "Muhammad Overwhelmed by the Fundamentalists" that showed the prophet with his head in his hands, remarking, "It's hard to be loved by idiots."
 

Jay

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"They are all the enemy of Islam."

Good!!
 

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It's Bush's Fault again!

Yup Georgie is pretty slick with crayons and humor as long as someone else writes the captions ...:wink:
 

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Everything is America's fault eh? Was wondering when they would get around to beating that dead horse...
 

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"But Muslims think they can issue decrees about what images can appear in newspaper cartoons. Who do they think they are, liberals?"


Ann Coulter
 

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A few words from the Mogz' point-o-view:

The Muslim world is PARTLY justified in their anger. As has no doubt been flogged in to our heads now, any dipiction of The Prophet is forbidden. I can respect that, it's part of their religion. However what ISN'T part of their religion is violence, especially towrds other humans. A good friend of mine is a Sunni Muslim. He goes to the mosque on a regular basis and reads the Kohran. I emailed him and asked him for his point of view on this whole cartoon thing and here's what he said:

While I am annoyed that images of the Prophet were drawn and published, I cannot blame people who's primary religion is not Islam and therefore didn't know it was against the religion, for doing so. I will admit it pisses me off that people have fueled the issue by re-running the cartoons, but that's my own issue.

A fair response, won't you agree? He's miffed at the situation but won't lose his mind over it. In fact he doesn't even blame anyone for the whole mess. Next I asked him about the rioting and flag/cheese burning going on around the Middle East. He said:

That's moronic man. Why are Muslims blaming these Governments for something that is out of their control. They cannot impact upon freedom of speech. It bothers me when Muslims who claim to follow the same religion as I do, burn flags and gut embassies all in the name of Allah. I believe in Allah and follow his teaching, but I would never think of doing what i'm seeing on TV, it goes against everything i've been taught.

So there you have it, the views of a devote Muslims who actually follows the Kohran and is a credit to Islam. not being a Muslim myself, I can't say the publication of the cartoons effects me at all, however what I can say is that the people I see burning wedges of cheese and totting AK-47's on national TV, are nothing like the Sunni Muslim i'm proud to call my friend. Then again, maybe it's just me.
 

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RE: Cartoon Protesters Di

I do not think all muslims are the same, infact I think many have integrated themselves and beliefs into the freedom offered by western society and are great people, like my neighbours. Like the Christians of the past they are maturing into the realization that the only way to influence a peaceful society is through peaceful means. There will always be zealots, in every race, religion and country, its only when good people refuse to act that we have a problem. What is happening in the middle east disturbs me because we have a nation run by zealots whos ultimate goal would be the domination and subjigation(sp?) of the world, weither they be muslim, christian, budist or any other religion.
 

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Which nation are you refering to? Iran? Palestine? Regardless there are several nations in the region bent on this global domination, if you will. The problem is fundamentalism. These nations are so ass-backwards, that they simply do not fit in with the rest of the 21st Century World. You have citizens so brain washed that their first reaction to these cartoons is to blame the United States, a nation that has publically said they were in poor taste. These people are so desperate for mental leadership that they will blindly listen to anything they're told, nodding in agreement the whole time. These are the same people who take 4 year olds and dress them up as suicide bombers. In short, these people are fucked. There is no reaching them, they're under the sway of religious zeal...even if the religion they proport to follow condems half the actions they undertake in the name of God. I really don't know, i've seen it first hand. Granted the Afghani's are somewhat less intense as Palestinians and Iranians, however they're all fanatical in their own way. Maybe it's the heat?
 

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:roll: Since we're on a non politically correct subject, I can certainly say that Ann Coulter is Retarded. Comparing Muslem fanatics to Liberals is a pointless jab and is just juvenille name calling at it's best (except she's not in gradeskool anymore)

:x Now that that's out of the way, I do find it sad that even though the States hasn't published these toons, they are still targeted. I put the blame on the pack mentality of the protesters trying to storm a military base of a country that hasn't had anything to do with the toons. What did they think was going to happen trying to storm the compound??? A trail of rosepedals and Americans apologizing for Denmark.

:roll: This whole cartoon thing has just magnified the stupidity of those on both sides of the conflict.
 

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Jo Canadian said:
What did they think was going to happen trying to storm the compound??? A trail of rosepedals and Americans apologizing for Denmark.

If that was the outcome that they were expecting, they would of been better off storming the Canadian embassy.

:director: :notworthy:
 

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Anybody hear about the Albert Brooks Mockumentary
on exploring humor in the Muslim world ?

Did you know the American military ships booze out
to the Middle East packed in bacon fat so no greedy corrupt
bastard in the Middle East rips off those packages ???
 

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I think the Media and the Non-Muslim parts of the World should just ignore these fanatics. Don't give them an audiance and watch how board these "Peaceful" Muslims become. Next week they will be blaming us Infidels for Bird Flue, and that Bush created this virus to wipe out the "Islamic People". It's like a broken record, they must be out of flags by now, I wonder why there were so many foreign flags ready to burn-pre-planned that is obvious. My two cents, this entire saga was nothing more than staged events by Extreme Muslim Clerics to further their agenda of "World Domination".
 

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Re: RE: Cartoon Protesters Direct Anger at U.S.

jimmoyer said:
Did you know the American military ships booze out
to the Middle East packed in bacon fat so no greedy corrupt
bastard in the Middle East rips off those packages ???
Since no TRUE Islamic would touch alcohol derived from either grapes or grain, and any Islamic CORRUPT enough to touch alcohol would also be corrupt enough to touch bacon fat, that precaution sounds rather imbecilic. :?
 

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You're right Sassylassie and it's been done before, Islamic leaders in three Nigerian states blocked critical polio inoculations for children, denouncing them as a U.S. plot to spread AIDS or infertility among Muslims. And let these people die instead. :roll:
 

jimmoyer

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I wonder how many Muslims you know, Virtual Burlesque ?

I get a kick out of my Morrocan friends.

They'll touch alchohol for sure, when they're abroad,
and will do it in private if they can get away with it.

But they won't go near the bacon anywhere.

Their system of loopholes is as replete as any
god fearing christian's.
 

Virtual Burlesque

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Sassylassie said:
this entire saga was nothing more than staged events by Extreme Muslim Clerics to further their agenda of "World Domination".
Right!

It was all staged by those Extreme Muslim Clerics on the editorial staff of Jyllands-Posten. :roll: