Quote: Originally Posted by Said1
Au contrare. P
Au contraire
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverVoice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger. HERMANN GORING
That quote isnt very far from reality,is it??
Quote: Originally Posted by aeonQuote: Originally Posted by Said1
Au contrare. P
Au contraire
ITN! Where's that "Talk to the hand smilie"???
Quote: Originally Posted by aeonQuote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverVoice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger. HERMANN GORING
That quote isnt very far from reality,is it??
The tactic is very old and very powerful, a perenial favorite of agressive superpowers.
Had the Nazi Party not enjoined such rhetoric without
the Brown shirt thugs and bullies carrying out threat
and fear, such rhetoric would not rule the public.
Lesson lost here.
We simply cannot even look at history very
accurately but we are all very adroit at taking any
piece of history out of its context, picking a part out
of the sum of its parts.
Aeon, the lesson of Hitler's Germany is only ever
understood in piecemeal and wrongly at that.
You still hold on to separating the rhetoric
of Hitler from the SS and the Brown Shirts.
You've grown used to reading this false understanding
of that history, because what you said is an echo
heard everywhere, and we live in an echo chamber,
a media echo chamber, a bubble that is very durable.
And as far as 9/11 being a hoax, well just add that
to the hoax of the Apollo Moon program.
Frankly believers in hoaxes are about the most
gullible people you will ever meet.
They think they are free thinkers, thinking their cynicism
for truth, but yet their gullibility for believing major
events like that one was a hoax beautifully executed
is astounding.
Do you believe the powers to be are that competent
to pull it off ?
I believe in the infinity of INCOMPETENCY.
I don't believe in competence, a very rare and
finite attribute of mankind.
We must not forget the pattern of nazi germany to not make the same mistake over and over, ok i probably exagerate but the facts are there, hitler used fear to get his people down, same for this bush administration, you just cant refute it.Nazi are the nazi, and republican are the republican, but they are similarity.
Well , this is exactly what i think about those who frankly believe in us officials story.Thinking alquada was able to do an event that big, able to find washington from 10000 feet in the air and crashed into the pentagone by doing a 180 degree turn,i guess allah was there to help them right?? Alquada arent organised to do an event that big, that is a fact.
Exactly , that is why guys like me found easily anomalie in the 9-11 official story. They are so incompetent, that they cant have their lie straight.
It is disingenuous to think that fear is not the primary tool of the U.S. administration, no reason no fact and no benevolent intensions. Whatever the details
of the 9/11 incident fear has been the result, fear was the intended
result. ALL sides feed off that fear to advance thier cause whatever that may be.Fear of terrorism is being used to strip away democracy
in the United States, the rich have decided that democracy costs them to much.
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverGuess what darkbeaver, we agree on something. I have no doubt GWB is using the fear card to do what he wants to do, but don't think it works across the board, don't look at one side, there are always two sides to a story.It is disingenuous to think that fear is not the primary tool of the U.S. administration, no reason no fact and no benevolent intensions. Whatever the details
of the 9/11 incident fear has been the result, fear was the intended
result. ALL sides feed off that fear to advance thier cause whatever that may be.Fear of terrorism is being used to strip away democracy
in the United States, the rich have decided that democracy costs them to much.
We don't walk around in fear aeon, we go about our daily lives without looking over our shoulders. I think the media moreso brainwashes some of you on the outside than on the inside
You are only using conspiracy theories to further your beliefs, the plane didn't swoop down from 10,000 feet and make a 180 degree turn.
A good conspiracy is unprovable. I mean, if you can prove it, it means they screwed up somewhere along the line. - Some smart guy said it
How many times bush administration has used color alert before the second term?? Even once after a very good speech of jhon kerry, the day after was the highest alert, to make people remember who is in charge.
Ok i rephrase it, how alquada would have been able to find washington and at the same time the pentagone from where they have hijacked the plane,??
They screwed it up big time, they lost control, that is why so many facts are emerging these days.
Quote: Originally Posted by aeonHow many times bush administration has used color alert before the second term?? Even once after a very good speech of jhon kerry, the day after was the highest alert, to make people remember who is in charge.Many times. How many times have people even paid attention to it? Could you even guess? I live in New York City, we are constantly on alert, you think it makes a difference to us what Homeland Security decides to say each morning? Do you think we don't go to work? Don't go out on the town at night? Don't ride the bus, train and walk around our parks and national treasures because some dickhead in the government raises the terror alert level? Why don't you tell me how we all live in FEAR.
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Quote: Originally Posted by aeonOk i rephrase it, how alquada would have been able to find washington and at the same time the pentagone from where they have hijacked the plane,??I have no idea, I'm not a pilot, are you?
Quote: Originally Posted by aeonThey screwed it up big time, they lost control, that is why so many facts are emerging these...
Ok i rephrase it, how alquada would have been able to find washington and at the same time the pentagone from where they have hijacked the plane,??
Quote: Originally Posted by aeonLets rephrase again, someone did find it - right? Someone who could maneuver and navigate a Boing 747 - right? That someone died in the crash, suicide. What does that tell you? Is secret service known for any prior kamikazemissions?Ok i rephrase it, how alquada would have been able to find washington and at the same time the pentagone from where they have hijacked the plane,??
You can replace the truth with cynicism all you want
and smile at your own wisdom.
I hope when you don't like somebody you believe
anything bad about him simply because he pisses you off.
This crap is getting holier than thou.
My apologies in advance for writing in this way.
Aeon, if you were to plan a perfect murder to work, wouldn't you worry if you missed one small detail ?
In order for you to do a perfect lie, wouldn't you
try to cover every possible angle to handle each
question to keep the cover up going and wouldn't you
worry about missing something ?
There is no doubt that Rumsfeld and company had
an eye on Iraq long before 9/11.
It's just that the elaborateness of the hoax is
believing in the stupidity and yet absolute superhuman
competence for these guys to pull it off.
Obviously Osama bin Laden takes credit for this..
You think al Jazeera is lying to us also ?
Why would Zarqawi who didn't get along with Osama
still decide to share the al Qaeda name in Iraq?
And individual issues of some hijackers still showing
up alive is not vetted at all, by a simple GOOGLE.
Is al Jazeera in collusion with this elaborate hoax ?
They seem to think Osama deserves the credit.
I think your hate of American policy, right as it is,
is getting in the way of your ability to assess objectively.