Experts Claim Official 9/11 Story is a Hoax

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A group of distinguished experts and scholars, including Robert M. Bowman, James H. Fetzer, Wayne Madsen, John McMurtry, Morgan Reynolds, and Andreas von Buelow, have concluded that senior government officials have covered up crucial facts about what really happened on 9/11.

They have joined with others in common cause as members of "Scholars for 9/11 Truth" (S9/11T), because they are convinced, based on their own research, that the administration has been deceiving the nation about critical events in New York and Washington, D.C.

These experts suggest these events may have been orchestrated by elements within the administration to manipulate Americans into supporting policies at home and abroad they would never have condoned absent "another Pearl Harbor."

They believe that this White House is incapable of investigating itself and hope the possibility that Congress might hold an unaccountable administration accountable is not merely naive or wishful thinking.

They are encouraging news services around the world to secure scientific advice by taking advantage of university resources to verify or to falsify their discoveries. Extraordinary situations, they believe, require extraordinary measures.

If this were done, they contend, one of the great hoaxes of history would stand naked before the eyes of the world and its perpetrators would be clearly exposed, which may be the only hope for saving this nation from ever greater abuse.

They hope this might include The New York Times, which, in their opinion, has repeatedly failed to exercise the leadership expected from our nation's newspaper of record by a series of inexplicable lapses. It has failed to vigorously investigate tainted elections, lies leading to the war in Iraq, or illegal NSA spying on the American people, major unconstitutional events. In their view, The Times might compensate for its loss of stature by helping to reveal the truth about one of the great turning_point events of modern history.

Stunning as it may be to acknowledge, they observe, the government has brought but one indictment against anyone and, to the best of their knowledge, has not even reprimanded anyone for incompetence or dereliction of duty. The official conspiracy theory -- that nineteen Arab hijackers under control of one man in the wilds of Afghanistan brought this about -- is unsupportable by the evidential data, which they have studied. They even believe there are good reasons for suspecting that video tapes officially attributed to Osama bin Laden are not genuine.

They have found the government's own investigation to be severely flawed. The 9/11 Commission, designated to investigate the attack, was directed by Philip Zelikow, part of the Bush transition team in the NSA sector and the co_author of a book with Condoleezza Rice. A Bush supporter and director of national security affairs, he could hardly be expected to conduct an objective and impartial investigation.

They have discovered that The 9/11 Commission Report is replete with omissions, distortions, and factual errors, which David Ray Griffin has documented in his book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions. The official report, for example, entirely ignores the collapse of WTC7, a 47-story building, which was hit by no airplanes, was only damaged by a few small fires, and fell seven hours after the attack.

Here are some of the kinds of considerations that these experts and scholar find profoundly troubling:

* In the history of structural engineering, steel-frame high-rise buildings have never been brought down due to fires either before or since 9/11, so how can fires have brought down three in one day? How is this possible?

* The BBC has reported that at least five of the nineteen alleged "hijackers" have turned up alive and well living in Saudi Arabia, yet according to the FBI, they were among those killed in the attacks. How is this possible?

* Frank DeMartini, a project manager for the WTC, said the buildings were designed with load redistribution capabilities to withstand the impact of airliners, whose effects would be like "puncturing mosquito netting with a pencil." Yet they completely collapsed. How is this possible?

* Since the melting point of steel is about 2,700*F, the temperature of jet fuel fires does not exceed 1,800*F under optimal conditions, and UL certified the steel used to 2,000*F for six hours, the buildings cannot have collapsed due to heat from the fires. How is this possible?

* Flight 77, which allegedly hit the building, left the radar screen in the vicinity of the Ohio/Kentucky border, only to "reappear" in very close proximity to the Pentagon shortly before impact. How is this possible?

* Foreign "terrorists" who were clever enough to coordinate hijacking four commercial airliners seemingly did not know that the least damage to the Pentagon would be done by hitting its west wing. How is this possible?

* Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta, in an underground bunker at the White House, watched Vice President Cheney castigate a young officer for asking, as the plane drew closer and closer to the Pentagon, "Do the orders still stand?" The order cannot have been to shoot it down, but must have been the opposite. How is this possible?

* A former Inspector General for the Air Force has observed that Flight 93, which allegedly crashed in Pennsylvania, should have left debris scattered over an area less than the size of a city block; but it is scattered over an area of about eight square miles. How is this possible?

* A tape recording of interviews with air traffic controllers on duty on 9/11 was deliberately crushed, cut into very small pieces, and distributed in assorted places to insure its total destruction. How is this possible?

* The Pentagon conducted a training exercise called "MASCAL" simulating the crash of a Boeing 757 into the building on 24 October 2000, and yet Condoleezza Rice, among others, has repeatedly asserted that "no one ever imagined" a domestic airplane could be used as a weapon. How is this possible?

Their own physics research has established that only controlled demolitions are consistent with the near-gravity speed of fall and virtually symmetrical collapse of all three of the WTC buildings. While turning concrete into very fine dust, they fell straight-down into their own footprints.

These experts and scholars have found themselves obliged to conclude that the 9/11 atrocity represents an instance of the approach -- which has been identified by Karl Rove, the President's closest adviser -- of "creating our own reality."
 

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aeon said:
* Since the melting point of steel is about 2,700*F, the temperature of jet fuel fires does not exceed 1,800*F under optimal conditions, and UL certified the steel used to 2,000*F for six hours, the buildings cannot have collapsed due to heat from the fires. How is this possible?

Steel loses 60% of its strength at 1022*F :roll:

I guess it's back to the conspiracy drawing board for them.
 

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I study journalism and thereby how to analyze and handle sources. Now, even though there are some "standard procedures" that most historians and journalists use, one most often stands over all other; before wasting your time analyzing a huge material, ask yourself "is this a likely scenario"?

Of course, some things that are not "likely" to happen, sometimes do happen.

In this case I will just have to take my chanses wont I..?

Dismissed!
 

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Toro said:
"Experts and scholars"
Är du dansk eller simulerar du bara? I have just written a paper on "the media demimond" and how fame is produced by media, and somehow turned into "expertise".

Frightening, absolutely - but still very interesting.
 

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Thulin

Good points - a lot of work has been done by people in an attempt to do what this group is doing.

Your journalism background would give you the knowledge to search through things to assess them more fairly than I. But fairness doesn't belong in my heart to the 9/11 question. I have actually become a bigot over that date. But it isn't about me....

I only ask: What is their point?


Toro

Like that new avatar!

Did you see what Donuts did with some avatars on What Do You Like About Bush in the Lounge section?

He had me laughing so hard I almost stopped posting.... not quite!
 

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thulin said:
I have just written a paper on "the media demimond" and how fame is produced by media,

For example

 

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Toro

You could start a movement of sympathizers .... a mini protest against the cartoons .... as they don't represent Freedom in your eyes.

Wots' Ms. Hilton got to do with it?
 

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I think not said:
Steel loses 60% of its strength at 1022*F :roll:

I guess it's back to the conspiracy drawing board for them.


Steel loses 60% of its strength at 1022 F, but how do you explain , there is people that survived from that heat?? you can see people after the plane hit looking for help, i ll try to find those pictures.
 

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Oh.... the media made it....

I have been here way too long. Break.

I know she is a ditz but she is really funny.....I don't know if she knows she is funny....that's the question.
 

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aeon said:
I think not said:
Steel loses 60% of its strength at 1022*F :roll:

I guess it's back to the conspiracy drawing board for them.


Steel loses 60% of its strength at 1022 F, but how do you explain , there is people that survived from that heat?? you can see people after the plane hit looking for help, i ll try to find those pictures.

Please don't drag me into more questions, your article made an idiotic claim and I debunked it, as far as I'm concerned they are either lying or confused steel with tinfoil like WC suggested. Either way it's baloney.
 

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Ya.... that's right!

I know my melting measurements! Tinfoil, steel girders, aircraft plating aluminum...conduit covers.....chocolate....ice cream... you name it! :p

Apparently so does Toro ahem..... His wife is very forgiving!!!
 

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Re: RE: Experts Claim Officia

Toro said:
Oh, I just caught the web address of the article in the first post.

Global Research is the fringe site to beat 'em all.

They were writing a year or so that Bush was about to overthrow the US government and establish a military dictatorship.

Here they are. Laugh away.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php


you want other link??


http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2006/1/emw339303.htm

http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=806