The Real Story Behind Chavez ...

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Nascar_James

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Folks, although this forum has several threads in regards to Dictator Chavez, I thought I'd create this one to raise awareness on just how severe the situation is. Here you will find links to Amnesty International and the Inter American Human Rights Commission as well as exerpts from the UN, all condemning Chavez for his human rights abuses.

This material has already been posted in aother thread, but considering it's importance, I thought it deserved it's own new thread.

Firstly, I will list the important links.

For anyone who wants the full story behind Chavez's Human Rights violations, I strongly urge you to read this Amnesty International link...

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR530052004?open&of=ENG-VEN

There is also a link to USA Today for Chavez's abuses of the Venezuelan native communites...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-10-15-indianschavez_x.htm

Here is also a useful link to CBS news regarding the Inter-American Human Rights Commission's concern at Chavez's Human Rights Violations...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/06/world/main634466.shtml


Here are some noteworthy exerpts that I'm quoting from the sources above ...

CNN News:
CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) -- Venezuela's highest Catholic prelate on Sunday condemned President Hugo Chavez's rule as a dictatorship and urged Venezuelans to reject it. "I am convinced that what we have here is a dictatorship," Cardinal Rosalio Castillo, who is retired, said in a interview published by El Universal newspaper.

He told Venezuelans to use their constitutional right to refuse to recognize the left-wing president on the grounds he was not ruling democratically. Castillo did not elaborate on what actions he thought Venezuelans should take.

The cardinal scoffed at a recent assertion by Chavez that his government was following the teaching of Jesus Christ by spending Venezuela's oil wealth to help the poor. "His goal above all is not to help the poor but to concentrate his power," Castillo said.

The cardinal said Article 350 of Venezuela's 1999 Constitution allowed citizens to refuse to recognize an elected leader if he violated democratic principles or human rights. "That's what should be done -- reject this government," he said.


Amnesty International:
titled: Venezuela Human Rights under Threat
Between 27 February and 4 March 2004 political violence erupted once again in Venezuela. According to information received by Amnesty International, in the context of the disturbances, as many as 14 people were killed in circumstances that have yet to be clarified and over 200 people were injured, with credible reports of excessive use of force by Chavez's security forces. Furthermore, the cases included in this report indicate that several of those detained were not only not involved in criminal acts prior to detention, but then faced ill-treatment and torture while in the custody of the security forces.

Reports received also indicate that subsequent investigations undertaken by the Cuerpo de Investigaciones Científicas, Penales y Criminalísticas (CICPC)(1), Technical Police, Fiscalía General de la Nación , Attorney General’s Office, and Defensoría del Pueblo, Human Rights Ombudsman’s Office, to establish the facts around these alleged abuses and prosecute those responsible have been slow and inadequate. In comparison, these same authorities have acted with energy against opposition activists who allegedly participated in or incited violence. Over recent years, these institutions have failed to fulfil their constitutional role to act with equal impartiality against government supporters and opponents accused of committing crimes related to the ongoing political crisis. This lack of impartiality, combined with long standing structural weaknesses of these key institutions, threatens to strengthen the culture of impunity that has accompanied human rights abuses over many years in Venezuela.

On 18 March 2004 the Inter American Commission on Human Rights (IACHR) published a major country report on Venezuela (Report on the Situation of Human Rights in Venezuela, OEA/Ser.L/V/II.118) highlighting many of these serious longstanding institutional weaknesses related to the rule of law and the respect for civil and political rights. The IACHR recommendations provide a clear blueprint for the government to tackle these issues and strengthen the effectiveness and impartiality of key branches of the State, particularly the justice sector.

The administration has been accused of inciting supporters to threaten and attack media workers who are identified with the opposition and many of these cases have never been adequately investigated by the authorities.

Amnesty International believes security forces responding to serious breaches in public order on a number of occasions employed excessive use of force to disperse or detain demonstrators, and subsequently subjected several detainees to ill-treatment or torture. These types of human rights violations committed by police and security forces have occurred in Venezuela over many years, particularly in situations of mass public demonstrations or civil disturbances.

In recent years Amnesty International and national human rights organizations have also documented extra legal killings, torture and other serious human rights violations committed by police and security forces in the context of social cleansing or combating common crime in different parts of the country. These cases, often affecting poor and marginalized communities, gain little public attention and receive an equally inadequate official response; exposing the victims and their families to threats and intimidation and leaving members of the police and security forces responsible free to commit further human rights violations.

In the civil disturbances of 27 February to 4 March 2004 Amnesty International recognises that wide scale indiscriminate or extrajudicial killings were avoided in the face of frequently violent demonstrations. However, rather than acknowledge the use of excessive force and torture in a significant number of cases and ensure full, thorough and impartial investigations, the authorities made numerous public statements offering unqualified support for the conduct of the security forces and sought to dismiss or downplay allegations of human rights violations as merely part of the opposition strategy to discredit the government. The government only reluctantly agreed the need to investigate alleged abuses in the face of numerous complaints and strong national and international pressure.

In November 2002, the United Nations Committee against Torture welcomed such key elements of the 1999 Constitution and a number of other advances in the legal framework to prevent and punish acts of torture, but expressed concern at the continuing incidence of torture cases and the failure to investigate or punish those responsible. The Committee called for the introduction of specific anti-torture legislation to make effective the Constitutional prohibition. Despite efforts by national human rights organizations to advance both the legal and practical efforts to combat torture, no substantive progress has been made since the Committee made its recommendations. The inadequate legal framework, the absence of effective investigations and the increasing lack of credibility of institutions such as the CICPC, Attorney General’s Office and the Defensoría del Pueblo, continue to make impunity for crimes of ill-treatment, torture or excessive use of force the norm.

from USA Today:
Jose Kayupare of the Puinare tribe challenged Chavez's claims that the Sanford, Fla.-based New Tribes Mission constituted an "imperialist infiltration" that was exploiting native communities.

"For those of us who live in the jungle, this really is a decision that the majority of indigenous people in Amazonas (state) don't support and that we are not going to accept under any circumstances," Kayupare told reporters.

He said the New Tribes Mission has helped Indian communities ravaged by malaria and other diseases in Venezuela, sometimes airlifting the sick to medical assistance, when the government and others had abandoned them.

"Why don't they ask (the Indian communities) ... if they've really been abused?" asked Domingo Gonzalez, an indigenous Venezuelan working with the group.

"The indigenous Venezuelans need to be heard, not to be spoken for," Gonzalez said, accusing the government of being "the ones who really harm and oppress them."


The country's top evangelical organization, The Evangelical Council of Venezuela, issued a statement defending the missionaries' work and denying the group had any ties with the U.S. government or was working for profit.

CBS News:
In New York, meanwhile, Venezuela's U.N. Ambassador Milos Alcalay resigned to protest what he said were human rights violations and threats to democracy in the oil-producing South American nation of 24 million people. Alcalay had represented his country abroad for 30 years.

Outside the Supreme Court in eastern Caracas, protesting Venezuelans chanted "Freedom, Freedom!" and held photos of citizens and opposition leaders allegedly detained by authorities during the demonstrations.

Eight people were killed in clashes sparked by election authorities' decision to reject a petition seeking a recall vote against Chavez.

"It's not enough that they steal our signatures. They also have to rob Venezuelans of our peace and physical safety," opposition leader Antonio Ledezma said.

Ledezma and other protesters said some detainees were beaten or tortured.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: The Real Story Behind

Hmmm...your hatred of the man is starting to look a lot like spam, Nero. Is it possible that you have a fetish for crushed donkey-dink?
 

Andygal

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RE: The Real Story Behind

It sure seems like he does. He keeps on beating this dead horse over and over and over again.

But then maybe it's because he ins't capable of thinking about very many topics so he has to use the same ones over and over and over again.
 

Hard-Luck Henry

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"An exchange of insults between Cardinal Rosalio José Castillo Lara and President Hugo Chávez brought the long-running confrontation between Church and State in Venezuela to a head last week. When 82-year-old Cardinal Castillo, a retired Curial cardinal, told a newspaper interviewer that Chávez was a dictator, and the present government was the worst Venezuela has ever had, the President used his weekly live TV broadcast on 17 July to call the cardinal a pimp and a hypocrite, who had the devil inside him."

No wonder Nascar has such empathy for the old guy, eh? :lol:
 

Nascar_James

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Re: RE: The Real Story Behind

Andygal said:
It sure seems like he does. He keeps on beating this dead horse over and over and over again.

But then maybe it's because he ins't capable of thinking about very many topics so he has to use the same ones over and over and over again.

Don't deny it Andygal. The evidence that I've listed against Chavez is overwhelming. The day I'll take your word over Amnesty International, the Inter American Human Rights Commission and the United Nations, all respected international organizations, is the day hell freezes over. What reason could you possibly have for disputing the statements from these well established organizations? ... Aside from lack of knowledge.

Everyone who keeps current with International news knows about Chavez's abuses.
 

Nascar_James

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Reverend Blair said:
Hmmm...your hatred of the man is starting to look a lot like spam, Nero. Is it possible that you have a fetish for crushed donkey-dink?

Rev, how can you support the man? All these respected organizations have clearly spoken out against him. He deserves to be removed from power.
 

Andygal

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RE: The Real Story Behind

How can you support Bush? All those respected organizations have clearly spoken out against him. He deserves to b e removed from power.

*sniffs* I smell....hypocrisy.
 

Nascar_James

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Reverend Blair said:
Hmmm...your hatred of the man is starting to look a lot like spam

Hah. That's a good one. I had no clue that posting reliable news amounts to Spam. If that's the case, then no one may post any news from any source since it's now considered spamming.
 

Nascar_James

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Andygal said:
How can you support Bush? All those respected organizations have clearly spoken out against him. He deserves to b e removed from power.

*sniffs* I smell....hypocrisy.

Really? Name a few.

President Bush doesn't abuse his own people as does dictator Chavez.
 
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