War moves to Syria

Ocean Breeze

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Repetitive clashes took place between U.S. and Syrian forces on the Iraqi border

Analysts suggest that the U.S. wars on Iraq and Afghanistan are part of a broader military agenda to control the Middle; a continuation of the 1991 Gulf War and the NATO led wars on Yugoslavia.

The post Iraq war period has been marked by President Bush’s rhetoric and threats against Damascus, raising the prospect of another U.S. war in the Middle East, but on Syria this time.

According to analysts, the deployment of the U.S. war machine purports to enlarge its economic sphere of influence.Syria, with considerable oil reserves, has long been a pawn in the larger game of great power politics and oil interests in the Arab world.

After World War 1, France hampered the Arab’s attempts for an independent kingdom by installing a colonial regime in Damascus, which was part of the Ottoman Empire. After gaining independence, Syria became the target of military coups, sponsored by Britain and the United States, both competing to control the region’s oil wealth.

Former U.S. officials have recently revealed that the U.S. Army is considering conducting special operations inside Syria, using small teams for intelligence gathering.

Repetitive clashes between U.S. and Syrian forces on the Iraqi border over the past year, according to former military and government officials may become a new front in the Iraq war.

The firefight, between Army Rangers and Syrian troops demonstrates the dangers facing U.S. troops as Bush’s admin steps up both political and military pressure on Damascus, which Bush labels one of the "allies of convenience".

The U.S. has, in recent months, broadening its military presence along the Iraqi-Syrian border as depression mounts among members of the Bush administration over the failure to prevent foreign fighters from boosting the strength of and assisting the Iraqi resistance in the face of the occupation forces.

During a White house meeting earlier this month, officials said, senior aides to Bush raised a variety of options including military strike against Syria to pile up the pressure on the Arab state the coming weeks.

However, Bush has not given the green light for any specific strategy yet, nor has he started to take moves to oust the Syrian President like he did in Iraq more than two years ago; in part for fear of who might take over, senior U.S. official said.

But the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Zalmay Khalilzad, has repetitively stated that Washington's "patience with Syria is running out”, fueling concerns that Syria might be the U.S.’s next stop.

Also Dr. Flynt Leverett, former national security adviser on Syria to the White House and now with The Brookings Institution, has stated recently that "There's been frequent criticism of the administration for not having a policy on Syria"- Now it seems that U.S. has a policy, 'regime change- to get rid of another Baathist leader in the Middle East, stepping up contacts with the Syrian opposition in exile.



would be just like the USR to slip into another war across the border of a nation they have their sites on. WHAT in hell is going on with the US???? Have they gone totally NUTS??? Seems they have sampled the taste of killing and can't get enough.

How can a population vote in a warmonger and a stupid one at that TWO times ???

the reality is that there is NOTHING about this "new" America that is likeable. No wonder they are so fecking afraid of terrorists...... they have earned the attention of much rage on this planet.........and yet don't have the smarts to connect the dots..
 

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Iraq is Vietnam and Syria is Cambodia. Even the rhetoric the US is using really isn't that different from what Nixon and Kissinger used.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Re: RE: War moves to Syria

Reverend Blair said:
Iraq is Vietnam and Syria is Cambodia. Even the rhetoric the US is using really isn't that different from what Nixon and Kissinger used.

so what can one conclude from that??? That the US is learning challenged??? Does not have the capacity to learn from its mistakes.....( like a psychopath). Or the US is operating on this level with full knowledge and intent .......and the rest of the world be damned??

Has there been no evolutionary progress??? any gathering of wisdom??? It boggles the mind to try to comprehend this WAR mentality. and the killing/destruction that ensues. There seems to be a callousness that is inhumane now.
 

jimmoyer

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Ocean Breeze ?
I once asked you if you ever thought there was a time for war, and laid out some scenarios for you and I don't recall what your answer was.

As far as American saber rattling at Syria, I see some good effects from it. Syria withdrew troops from Lebanon. They were a little worried by American troops nearby and if anyone thinks that concept never enterred the Syrian mind then I'm not sure that person could ever be an effective leader for any country.

Syria has also given up terrorist operatives to placate the American menace. That's good. Saddam's nephew was recently spit out of Syria and was caught recently. That's good, because that guy was doing a lot of financing killing children taking a candy bar from an American soldier and was also selling capturing Red Crescent ambulances because they were carrying Red Cross packages with the crucifix symbol image.

I see Syrian behavior changing, and getting out of the terrorism business in both Lebanon and Iraq.

I'm sure most of this board doesn't see that at all.
 

Ocean Breeze

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I see Syrian behavior changing, and getting out of the terrorism business in both Lebanon and Iraq.


What behavioral, attitudinal EVIDENCE do you see to support this???

Do you really think that keeping other nations AFRAID (using intimidation tactics)is going to create constructive "behavioral" change??? .......that is lasting and WITHOUT RESIDUAL RESENTMENT???
 

jimmoyer

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That's a good question from you Ocean Breeze.

Such saber rattling did have immediate benefits for Lebanon liberating itself. And they don't like Americans even as they peacefully marched for liberty.

But they were the beneficiaries of such saber rattling.

Without either them marching or the saber rattling, Syrian troops would be there today.

So that is a good benefit.

But I agree with you that residual resentment by the Syrians already exists, and that intimidation tactics did help liberate Lebanon and the intimidation will always be there real or imagined.

Amerika will leave Iraq one day, and everyone will remember good or bad.

That memory will have both good and bad results.