#1Oct 8th, 2005
Well the USA could be in for a nasty surprise if India and China provide the markets PM Martin says they could.
White House downplaying Martin's threats on oil
Well the USA could be in for a nasty surprise if India and China provide the markets PM Martin says they could.
Free Thinker
#2
RE: White House downplaying Martin's threats on oil
Oct 8th, 2005
To say the least, I'm very surprised of Martin using oil as a weapon... Yet, I'm very pleased by it. If they want to play like that, we can cause them much more hassle than they have to us. I say cut off the oil and water supplies and let them feel the pain of having a criminal government. Get with it, George.
Conservative
#3
Re: White House downplaying Martin's threats on oil
Oct 8th, 2005
Maybe Paul Martin means business this once. China will buy all the oil we can produce,and we'll have better trade relations with them..a good thing,as they are the major producing nation now.
#4
RE: White House downplayi
Oct 8th, 2005
I think Martin kind of means business on this...there's an election coming and Canadian public sentiment is that it's time the US either abides by NAFTA or we go elsewhere.
I don't think Martin's heart is really in it though. He's been sucking up to Georgie since he came to office.
I don't think Martin's heart is really in it though. He's been sucking up to Georgie since he came to office.
Free Thinker
#5
Re: RE: White House downplayi
Oct 8th, 2005Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair
I think Martin kind of means business on this...there's an election coming and Canadian public sentiment is that it's time the US either abides by NAFTA or we go elsewhere.
I don't think Martin's heart is really in it though. He's been sucking up to Georgie since he came to office.
well........martin better decide pretty damned soon......who he is leading and what kind of leadership -we the Canadians ) ....want.
He wants to be palsy with the bush next door.?.....FINE....but do it on personal time........Not business or gov't time. He had better have the jam to stick to this now. Sooo. tired of being jerked around by the US and a CA gov't that allows it passively to happen. Hopefully the dynamics start to change now..... as even martin should be able to know what side his bread is buttered on........( so to speak).....and the trouble the bush regime is in now. /or can cause .
#6
RE: White House downplayi
Oct 8th, 2005
He'll be keeping an eye on the polls, Ocean. If Harper seems to be gaining based on the CPC's opposition to his speech, he'll back off. If the Liberals seem to be picking up support based on this, he'll push a little more. If the NDP seems to be picking up support based on their opposition to NAFTA, Martin will push even harder.
Once the election is over though, if Martin gets a majority, all bets are off.
Once the election is over though, if Martin gets a majority, all bets are off.
#7
RE: White House downplaying Martin's threats on oil
Oct 8th, 2005
Has anyone got a link to the full statement that Martin actually SAID?
#8
RE: White House downplayi
Oct 8th, 2005
Nope. I saw it on TV about 20 times though. He didn't directly link softwood and energy, but he hinted at it. That's why I gave the three choices.
No Party Affiliation
#9
Re: White House downplaying Martin's threats on oil
Oct 8th, 2005
Here's a link for the full speech:
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#10
RE: White House downplaying Martin's threats on oil
Oct 8th, 2005
Good speech, but not a direct enough link between the two industries, IMO....
ps: thanks, juan.
ps: thanks, juan.
#11
RE: White House downplayi
Oct 8th, 2005
If he makes a direct link, then it's tough to back down later, Ten Packs.
#12
RE: White House downplayi
Oct 24th, 2005
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Minister of Natural Resources John McCallum met with the Presidents of China’s two largest oil companies. Given China’s demands for petroleum McCallum suggested that Canada could be exporting 400,000 barrels of oil per day by 2012.
China is also interested in investing in Canadian oil. A pipeline is required for the deal to proceed.
Enbridge has a proposal to ship as much as 400,000 barrels a day through a new pipeline to the West Coast.
The US better smarten up.
-- Interesting article.
Speaking at the Woodrow Wilson Center cross-border forum Orrin Hatch said that Canada would likely exceed Saudi Arabia in proven oil reserves. Hatch, a prominent Republican Senator also asserted that the U.S. cannot afford to alienate Canada over the softwood lumber dispute.
Minister of Natural Resources John McCallum met with the Presidents of China’s two largest oil companies. Given China’s demands for petroleum McCallum suggested that Canada could be exporting 400,000 barrels of oil per day by 2012.
China is also interested in investing in Canadian oil. A pipeline is required for the deal to proceed.
Enbridge has a proposal to ship as much as 400,000 barrels a day through a new pipeline to the West Coast.
The US better smarten up.
-- Interesting article.
Speaking at the Woodrow Wilson Center cross-border forum Orrin Hatch said that Canada would likely exceed Saudi Arabia in proven oil reserves. Hatch, a prominent Republican Senator also asserted that the U.S. cannot afford to alienate Canada over the softwood lumber dispute.
#13
RE: White House downplayi
Oct 24th, 2005
Henry Champ was just on TV saying that Condi is going to have to talk about trade since Martin's speech this morning. The US press that's following her around is almost certain to pick up on the story.
Martin should make it the only issue in this meeting. He should do so publicly and he should do so bluntly. If Condi wants to talk about other things, she should have to deal with this first.
I doubt Martin will do that though.
Martin should make it the only issue in this meeting. He should do so publicly and he should do so bluntly. If Condi wants to talk about other things, she should have to deal with this first.
I doubt Martin will do that though.
#14
RE: White House downplaying Martin's threats on oil
Oct 24th, 2005
Well you guys SHOULD play China and US off of each other.
Welcome to the game of GEO-POLITICS.
We've done a bad job keeping friends, so we'll just have to hunker down and re-evaluate while we get ganged up on.
Hey, I guess it's about time and I think it will improve America and make it even tougher, but more importantly wiser.
Welcome to the game of GEO-POLITICS.
We've done a bad job keeping friends, so we'll just have to hunker down and re-evaluate while we get ganged up on.
Hey, I guess it's about time and I think it will improve America and make it even tougher, but more importantly wiser.
#15
RE: White House downplayi
Oct 24th, 2005
Do you know where to find that poll Henry Champ was talking about? It was reguarding trade. There were some interesting numbers.
Free Thinker
#16
Re: RE: White House downplaying Martin's threats on oil
Oct 24th, 2005Quote: Originally Posted by jimmoyer
Well you guys SHOULD play China and US off of each other.
Welcome to the game of GEO-POLITICS.
We've done a bad job keeping friends, so we'll just have to hunker down and re-evaluate while we get ganged up on.
Hey, I guess it's about time and I think it will improve America and make it even tougher, but more importantly wiser.
Not sure it is SMART to adopt any "usr style" tactics. We have seen where it has brought the USR.......and that is not the path to take. Different and SMART strategies are called for.
Geo politics does not have to have the "game" element to it.... ...and can be a lot more civilized.
#18
Re: White House downplaying Martin's threats on oil
Oct 24th, 2005Quote:
Well you guys SHOULD play China and US off of each other.
Welcome to the game of GEO-POLITICS.
We've done a bad job keeping friends, so we'll just have to hunker down and re-evaluate while we get ganged up on.
Hey, I guess it's about time and I think it will improve America and make it even tougher, but more importantly wiser.
Wholly **** jim are ya alright feeling okay .I can't ****ing believe it no riddle just a straight answer .What the **** is up 
Free Thinker
#19
Re: White House downplaying Martin's threats on oil
Oct 24th, 2005Quote: Originally Posted by mrmom2
a shocker , ain't it ??? Let's' not breath .........as it might revert back to the other form..Quote:Well you guys SHOULD play China and US off of each other.
Welcome to the game of GEO-POLITICS.
We've done a bad job keeping friends, so we'll just have to hunker down and re-evaluate while we get ganged up on.
Hey, I guess it's about time and I think it will improve America and make it even tougher, but more importantly wiser.
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