Peak Oil crises coming 2010, $5 gas

dumpthemonarchy

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Peak Oil by 2010-2015, $5 litre gas

Barbara Yaffe wrote in the Vancouver Sun on Sept 5/2005 that "It has long been known world oil supplies are expected to peak between 2006 and 2011, then start declining."
"Long been known?" According to sourcewatch.org, Yaffe first wrote about the coming oil shortage on Sept 6, 2003. A mere two years ago. Check the link:

Peak Oil article by Barbara Yaffe, Vancouver Sun newspaper, Sept 6, 2003

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Peak_oil

By 2010 oil could be $5 per litre, which is more important, energy to live or the opium for the masses of the Winter Olympics?

The media is dishonest about this vital issue. Five years ago Yaffe had no idea of peak oil, nor did the public or governments. Governments do not talk about this because the general public is ignorant on the issue.

Doonesbury is a loser cartoon because he never discusses this.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Peak Oil crises comin

World peak oil has been discussed ever since the predictions for US peak oil turned out to be accurate. As an issue, it's really been driven to the forefront in the alternative media by global warming, the US invasion of Iraq, and ever more common smog alerts. It hasn't really surfaced in the mainstream media though.

I'm not sure why you think Trudeau is responsible for publicizing this issue. His material comes from the front pages of the US mainstream press.
 

dumpthemonarchy

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Doonesbury could be insane, the cartoon wishes to affect social change as it seems to dislike apathy, but no social change occurs. One definition of being insane is doing the same thing over and over again, yet expecting a different result. Kookoo Trudeau.

It appears much too much for Trudeau to even mention peak oil in passing. His mandate seems very strict, inflexible, but, but, very profitable.

I remember hearing 25 years ago, we'll start saving gas when it's all gone. Ya gotta love it.
 

mrmom2

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Peak oil is a scam by oil companys so they can charge more for their product .They don't spend money on exploration they don't spend money on refining all just to drive up the price :evil: .If somebody came out with a different product that did the same as oil .I would bet we would be flush with the stuff all of a sudden :wink: Were being scammed plain and simple and now the corporate media IE oil companys are going to ramp up the rhetoric to take more of our money.Are you starting to feel like slaves yet
 

Canucklehead

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The man who devises a method of capturing cattle farts (aka methane, aka natural gas) will be one rich dude.

According to Stats Can, a single cow produces 550litres (395 Gg) of methane per day (including manure). In 1991 we had 13million cows here. That's a lot of methane!
 

mrmom2

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If anybodys interested here ya go

PLEASE DISTRIBUTE WIDELY -- Attention FTW Readers

All around this country and around the world, local communities are beginning to take serious notice and plan for Peak Oil, the collapse of industrial civilization and sustainability. FTW would like to serve as a clearing house for these events; a one-stop checkpoint to see where such planning and preparation is going on around you. We also want a place where newly planned events can be posted on a web site that averages 15,000 individual visits per day.

Our initial list is located at http://www.fromthewilderness.com/cgi-bin/PeakOilEvents.cgi.

If you or your community is sponsoring an event having to do with Peak Oil and/or sustainability and permaculture food production we encourage you to send the details to sustainablity@copvcia.com. We will then post it for all to see. We must accelerate the learning curve. In the wake of hurricane Katrina, the end of business as usual is no longer in our rear view mirrors. It is staring at us all through the windshield. And neither government nor Wall Street is going to save us.

Please distribute this announcement widely to internet lists and web sites. This is a totally free service to our fellows and it will benefit everyone who wants to prepare.

Mike Ruppert
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www.fromthewilderness.com
 

dumpthemonarchy

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Amen to that, gov't and big business is not going to save us. For decades, the US Geological Survey has said there is lots of oil, and there have been plenty of profits. Things are fine, so why worry?

The USGS, one does not question what the gov't has to say on rocks and hydrocarbons, for such objects are not political and said dept only reveals facts for the unwashed masses.

Five or ten years ago China and India for some reason were not on the world's economic radar screen. They were backwaters that will never succeed, except in isolated centres where the elites tapped into Western know-how. Now we have a kind of globalization that makes energy scarce. Call it energy globalization, and it is a slippery problem.
 

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Fuel Prices Increase - Mission Accomplished
 

Said1

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RE: Peak Oil crises comin

By 2010 oil could be $5 per litre

That's scary. As someone who can barely afford to heat the home they do not own, it's very worrying. I was hoping to move soon, may not as the rent is very cheap.
 

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Bush wants more war in order to insure higher oil prices :


Iran Readying for Conflict With US

By Amir Taheri

09/17/05 "Arab News" -- -- Incredible though it may sound there are signs that Tehran may be preparing for a military confrontation with the United States, and has convinced itself that it could win.

The first sign came last June with the election of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as president of the Islamic Republic, an event that completed the conquest of all levers of power by the most radical elements of the establishment.

Since then the revolutionary factions have conducted a little publicized purge of the military, the security, the civil service, and state-owned corporations and media.

The most significant purges have affected the military high command.

Among those replaced are the defense minister, the commander-in-chief of the regular army and his four deputies, 11 senior commanders of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), and five commanders of the paramilitary Mobilization of the Dispossessed. Some of the purged officers have been “parked” in a mysterious new organ called “The Defense Guidance Commission” attached to the office of the “Supreme Guide” Ayatollah Ali Khamenehi.

The minister of intelligence and security and the minister of the interior, who controls the police and the gendarmerie, have also been replaced.

Another sign that Tehran may be preparing for war is the appointment of military officers to posts normally held by civilians, such as governors, mayors and directors of major public corporations.

But, perhaps, the surest sign yet is the military build up under way in the five provinces bordering Iraq. The region, with a population of 20 millions, has been put under the control of the IRGC which has also taken over units of the regular army, including the 88th Division, and the border police. Iran is estimated to have 250,000 troops in the area, its biggest military build-up since the end of the Iran-Iraq war in 1988.

One of the first acts of the new Cabinet led by Ahmadinejad was to approve an “emergency” fund of $700 million to be disbursed at the discretion of “the supreme guide” for “sacred defense purposes.”

The new administration has also decided to speed up defense disbursements under a five-year plan approved by Khamenehi last year. The plan aims at doubling the military budget by 2010. But it now seems that, thanks to rising oil revenues, most of the plan could be completed by 2008.

In the past few weeks top regime figures, including Khamenehi and Ahmadinejad, have made a series of unscheduled visits to Mash’had, Iran’s second largest city. One curious fact revealed during these visits is that a bunker-like structure to house the “supreme guide” is being completed close to the “holy shrine” of Reza, the eighth imam. The complex could also house the top echelon of government, including the president, the Cabinet and members of the Islamic Majlis (Parliament).

The choice of Mash’had is not accidental. The city is located 1,000 km from Tehran and thus as far as possible inside Iran from American fire power in Iraq and the Gulf. The US is also expected to shrink from attacks against the Mash’had bunker for fear of collateral damage to the “holy shrine” of the imam a few hundred yards away.

The summer’s comings-and-goings in Mash’had have provoked rumors that Khamenehi plans to appoint Abbas Va’ez Tabasi, the mulla who runs the eighth imam’s foundation, as “deputy supreme guide”, just in case!

The belief that the Americans would not attack sites close to “holy shrines’ has also led to the creation of a massive new military base at Fadak, a suburb of the “holy city” of Qom where the eighth imam’s sister is buried, south of Tehran. Work on the base that covers an area of 7.2 square km started in August.

Piecing together the bits of the jigsaw one may guess the outline of Tehran’s scenario for what it believes is an inevitable clash with the US:

• The diplomatic tussle over Iran’s nuclear plans goes to the Security Council that will fail to take a decision thanks to Russian and Chinese vetoes.

• The US, after much huffing and puffing launches air strikes against Iran’s nuclear installations. (Tehran loves Israel to also participate because that would give the Islamic Republic a better claim to be fighting on behalf of Islam as a whole.)

• Iran retaliates by ordering the forces it controls inside Iraq to attack American and British troops. At the same time the Lebanese branch of the Hezbollah launches massive rocket attacks against Israel while Hamas and the Islamic Jihad, whose leaders spent the past month in Tehran meeting Khamenehi and his aides, organize a wave of suicide operations against Israel from Jerusalem and the West Bank.

• The US and its British allies, stationed in southern Iraq, launch a three-pronged attack, from Shalamcheh, Hamroun and Shatt Al-Arab to seize control of Khuzestan, the province that accounts for 70 percent of Iran’s oil production.

• Iranian Special Forces attack Iraq from the Zaynalkosh salient, south of the Kurdish provinces, some 80 km from Baghdad’s first defenses in Ba’aqubah.

• Hazara Shi’ites strikes against Kabul, the Afghan capital, from Maydanshahr while Pushtun warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and the remnants of the Taleban, some of whom are under Iranian protection, attack across Afghanistan.

• The Americans and their allies attack Khuzestan.

• Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz.

• The Americans attack the Iranian provinces of Kermanshahan and Kurdistan.

• US-led forces attack across the Mandali-Ilam axis. The Iranians retreat to the Zagross mountain range, the first line of Iran’s natural defenses. (To fight along the Zagross the IRGC is building new bases at Khorramabad, Pessyan, Borujerd, Zagheh and Malayer in the province of Luristan. The bases would assure the logistics of a quarter of a million troops, and provide temporary shelter for half a million refugees from the border. These bases will complement older ones further west, at Sahneh and Kangavar. )

• Oil prices top $100 and the global economy plunges into a crisis.

• Americans launch cruise missiles against “regime targets” in Tehran. But the regime is already in Mash’had.

• Global TV networks air images of “indiscriminate carnage” and “wanton destruction” in Iranian cities.

• The Security Council meets in emergency and orders a cease-fire while the American media and Congress revolt against President George W Bush and his “pre-emptive” strategy.

• Anti-Bush marches in Washington and dozens of other cities with Hollywood figures and other celebrities calling for Bush to be overthrown.

• Bush accepts a UN-brokered cease-fire and withdraws his forces.

• The Islamic Republic emerges victorious from what Ahmadinejad sees as “a clash of civilizations.”

• The Americans leave Iraq and Afghanistan as Bush becomes a lame duck for the rest of his presidency.

• The Islamic Republic gains new domestic legitimacy and proceeds to crush its opponents as “enemies of the nation and of Islam.”

• Iran can speed up making its nuclear weapons and long-range missiles without being harassed by Washington.

• Iran becomes “the core power” of a new “Islamic pole” in a multipolar system with China, the European Union and Latin America, Under the Bolivarist leadership of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez emerging as other “poles”.

• Bush’s successor acknowledges Iran’s new status and sends Bill Clinton, who apologized to Iran for “our past misdeeds” in 2000, to Tehran to offer another formal apology on behalf of Bush’s successor and offer Ahmadinejad “a grand bargain”.

• The Islamic Republic is now free to proceed to address what Khamenehi has described as its “greatest historic task” which is the destruction of Israel.

Sounds outlandish? Well, it is. The Islamic Republic is a fragile structure in a zone of political earthquakes. Logically, the last thing it should want is war. Nevertheless, former President Muhammad Khatami has warned that Tehran may be boxing itself into a position in which it will either have to surrender or fight
 

jjw1965

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That's scary. As someone who can barely afford to heat the home they do not own, it's very worrying. I was hoping to move soon, may not as the rent is very cheap.

Tell me about it! Here in Ohio they said The electric will be up14%, fuel oil 30%, propane 40% and natural gas a whopping 70%. I guess it's time to invest in sweaters 8O
 

no1important

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RE: Peak Oil crises comin

I see gold is up $7+ already today. It is at a 17 year high. $469.50 u.s.

Gold futures near $470 an ounce

"The dollar is becoming overbought and, since it's not currently in a long-term trend, the dollar could begin to weaken which could just add more fuel to the fire in the precious metals," he said.

And if that happens, "gold will likely reach $500 a lot sooner than even I expected," he said.

I always thought gold went up because of oil instability or crisis.
 

Danbones

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Well, the US$ will now be a net energy exporter by 2020...which means the official msm story was somewhat FAKENEWS.
:)
Watch the dollar do the opposite of the official msm predictions for the next 3 to 7 years.
 

Hoid

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Peak oil was a scam to sell stocks in Canadian oil companies.

The theory relies on technology never advancing. As long as discovery/recovery science remains constant the idea that all the giant fields have been found makes sense to people who want to believe it.

But as science advances more and more of the earth is made available for exploration and they find more oil. Increasing drilling depths by a single foot underwater makes millions of acres of previously unexplored ocean floor available.

Also recovery technology is improving. Things like directional drilling and slotted completions and of course fracking have unleashed billions of previously unreachable reserves.

Peak oil is a scam and always was and anyone who was even vaguely familiar with the oil industry knew it.