Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See You

Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See You

Ocean Breeze

Free Thinker

#61

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 15th, 2005

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0815-03.htm

could be gaining some steam. ( hope so)

Go Cindy!! and don't listen to the usual "neo-con" excuse making as they continue to try to justify the unjustifiable. They (collectively ) are so full of hot air........they could keep the hot air balloon industry in business for years. And particularly , don't pay heed to those who are determined to smear you /your son /your family ......when they have no valid arguement to support their unsupportable position. Only the reptilian in nature would resort to such dirty tactics. But be careful Cindy......as keep in mind where you are... and them texas folks love to shoot people. .......on the slightest provocation. (or none at all. )

bulldog

#62

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 15th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Hard-Luck Henry

Quote: Originally Posted by bulldog
Anything to condemn Cindy? Anything? How about the words of her own family who condemn her? Her own family? Hardly. I mean, I notice the "Sheehan Family Statement" is signed "Casey Sheehan’s grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins.” Who are these people? Do none of them have names?
(Quote on this from Cindy Sheehan): " ... my in-laws sent out a press statement disagreeing with me in strong terms; which is totally okay with me, because they barely knew Casey. We have always been on separate sides of the fence politically and I have not spoken to them since the election when they supported the man who is responsible for Casey's death. The thing that matters to me is that our family -- Casey's dad and my other 3 kids are on the same side of the fence that I am."
So, these anonymous signatories belong to Mrs Sheehan's ex-husband's family - the only actual name we...
Quote has been trimmed

Thank you for reinforcing my point even deeper. Cindy has admitted that this statement is true, and Casey's father and his parents are equal in importance relatively speaking. And I mean as relatives and as a comparison to his mother and her family.
I win - you lose.

Bull Dog

Ocean Breeze

Free Thinker

#63

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 15th, 2005

Quote:

I win - you lose.

regrets, but that sounds so petty in the higher scheme of this issue.

Might be interesting if the "Iraq invasion" was brought home to Georgie boy's ranch. Seems that is exactly where this "war" should be taking place..

Hard-Luck Henry

#64

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 15th, 2005

No, thank you for etc ... the statement was from the ex-husband's family, not Casey's father. "Casey Sheehan’s grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins."

"Casey's dad and my other 3 kids are on the same side of the fence that I am."

The only person who attached a name to the statement was "Casey's aunt and godmother". Mother trumps godmother, as this is a game to you.

Vanni Fucci

Free Thinker

#65

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 15th, 2005

Well played Henry, and good form old chap...

bulldog

#66

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 15th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Vanni Fucci

Well played Henry, and good form old chap...

HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!

Good form? Squirt me with a water hose, I'm hysterical with laughter.

Well played? I win again. Cindy Sheehan husband, Casey's father, filed for divorce today. Seems there is a disagreement in the ditch. Take a look at your heroine:

AUGUST 15--The next well-wisher approaching Cindy Sheehan at her tent encampment outside President George W. Bush's Texas vacation home may actually be a process server. That's because the California woman's husband--in a curious bit of timing--filed for divorce Friday afternoon (below you'll find a copy of Patrick Sheehan's complaint, lodged August 12 in Solano County District Court). With Sheehan, 48, entering a second week outside Bush's Crawford retreat, her husband's divorce petition cites "irreconcilable differences" for the demise of the couple's 28-year marriage (the Sheehans, the document states, have been separated since June 1). Along with a Vacaville home, Patrick Sheehan listed other "community assets" as "any and all benefits payable as a result of son's death," including a Prudential insurance policy and "benefits from the U.S. Government." From her roadside outpost, Sheehan, whose 24-year-old son Casey, an Army Specialist, was killed last year in Iraq, has become the face of the U.S. antiwar movement, telling reporters that she will not budge until Bush meets with her and explains "why our sons are dead." Noting that Bush has referred to the war as a "noble" pursuit, Sheehan told Reuters, "If it's such a noble cause, why aren't his daughters over there?" Through an aide, Patrick Sheehan's lawyer, Glen DeRonde, declined to comment about the court filing, so it is unclear whether the divorce complaint will be delivered to Cindy Sheehan in Texas or when she returns to her home east of San Francisco. (4 pages)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...1sheehan1.html

Can't anyone ever admit defeat graciously?

Bull Dog

zenfisher

#67

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Nascar_James

Casey Sheehan must be turning in his grave right now.

Here is a kid, a hero who fought for his country having his name tarnished my his hypocritical mother.

Yes, hypocritical. This is a woman who is unstable with absolutely no credibility. Last year, when her son died, she praised President Bush for his efforts on the war against terrorism and now all of a sudden she has turned against him. Seems she has caught the flip-flop bug.

Here is what she said after a meeting with the President in June 2004 (about 2 months after the April 2004 death of her son)...

"I now know Bush is sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis, I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith. That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together."

Also, what Cindy Sheehan fails to understand is her son wasn't drafted to join the army, he voluntarily enlisted because he believed in fighting for his country. No one told him he had to go fight, so what is she complaining about? It was his decision to go!!! President Bush did not tell him to enlist!!!

So why then is Georgie boy afraid to speak with her? Hmmm... GOP
George.. Over Paranoid ?

no1important

#68

RE: Mr. Bush, There's Som

Aug 16th, 2005

He is a chicken sh*t plain and simple, or the coward I know he is.

zenfisher

#69

RE: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

GOP ...Greedy, Obnoxious President

peapod

#70

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

Poor bulldog...You win

how do you figure that...everything you wrote up there ^^^^^^^ showed what a bottom feeder you are...worst you like it there to.

peapod

#71

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

The right-wing attack dogs have made the rounds since Sheehan began her protest, working most of the shows on Fox News Channel, and its Fox-lite competitor, MSNBC.

And thank goodness for Comedy Central's The Daily Show With Jon Stewart, which perhaps better than any news outlet amplifies the lunacy of the conservative punditry. If it can show hypocrisy, all the better.

Here's an unofficial transcript from the Aug. 15 show:

STEWART: The Cindy Sheehan saga has many on the right fuming over her decision to go so public with her anguish.

MICHELLE MALKIN (on MSNBC's Hardball): I do think she has turned her private personal pain into a public circus.

MELANIE MORGAN (on Fox News): She is also a person who has had a political agenda for a lot longer than her son has been dead.

FRED BARNES (on Fox News): She's a crackpot.

STEWART: Yeah, she's a crackpot. I mean, who in their right mind raises an altar boy, eagle scout, honor student marine? What kind of parent was this woman? (Makes cuckoo sound.)

But this is hardly the first time a private family nightmare has become a national political flashpoint. Only a few months ago, the Terri Schiavo case unfolded with a similar narrative. And to his credit, Fred Barnes was just as blunt in his criticism of that grieving family.

BARNES (3/22/05, on Fox News): The parents, uh, of Terri Schiavo rather, I think have a strong moral case.

STEWART: Oh, why I guess theirs was a tragic circumstance you could really get behind.

***

peapod

#72

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

August 15, 2005

George W. Bush

President of the United States

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

Washington, DC. 20050

Dear Mr. President:

I am writing to request that you meet with Ms. Cindy Sheehan, grieving mother of Army Specialist Casey Sheehan, killed April 4, 2004 in Iraq. Mr. Sheehan was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment, at Fort Hood in your own home state of Texas. Specialist Sheehan paid the ultimate price for our country and surely you can honor that sacrifice by meeting with his mother to discuss the issues that trouble her about her great loss.

Mr. President, you asked many Americans to risk the ultimate sacrifice for this great nation of ours and thousands, including young Casey Sheehan, answered your call. Unfortunately, thousands of mothers now know Ms. Sheehan's pain; millions more fear it. Now is the time to honor these young men and women, and to honor Ms. Sheehan's request. One way we honor those who died in Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom is by respecting the needs of the families they left behind.

I understand, Mr. President, that you have seen Ms. Sheehan on at least two occasions as you drove past her encampment near your ranch in Crawford, Texas. Please, Mr. President, don't drive by a mother who has lost her son in a war you fully support. America cannot stand another drive by. Meet with her, Mr. President, or surely she will be joined by many other grieving mothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, brothers, and fathers whose loved ones lost their lives for you in Iraq. The meeting she seeks is to discuss the circumstances of her son's death. Her request is reasonable and I support her call to meet with you.

Mr. President, the parents of troops still stationed in Iraq, and the parents of young Americans who may be called to Iraq or who are currently being recruited to join the military are watching you right now. I ask that you reconsider your decision not to meet with Ms. Sheehan and offer her your personal condolences--not just for her, but for our country and the millions who are now watching both you and her.

Sincerely,

Cynthia McKinney

Member of Congress

peapod

#73

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

From newshounds.us they watch fox, so we don't have to

O'Reilly Desperate To Destroy Sheehan But Fails
Tonight Bill O'Reilly was determined to prove that his portrayl of Cindy Sheehan as a "far left" radical intent on embarrassing President Bush was accurate. He devoted three segments to Cindy Sheehans destruction and became increasingly agitated when his guests failed to give him the answers he wanted. While talking to Joe Trippi, O'Reilly said that Sheehan had lied backing down when Trippi condemned the hate rhetoric. The more O'Reilly attacked Cindy Sheehan, the worse he looked himself.8/15/05

During the talking points segment, O'Reilly was quite pleased that the New York Times had printed a retraction to an article that claimed that he had called Sheehan treasonous when he hadn't actually used the word. (He certainly implied it many times)Then Bill added that the NYT must have gotten the erroneous information from a far left website that has been going after him. ( The News Hounds?)

Next Joe Trippi appeared and was introduced as the organizer of the infamous conference call with several blogs including the News Hounds. O'Reilly kept asking Trippi in disbelief if he believed that Sheehan was a "political player" and member of the far left.Trippi was emphatic that Sheehan was independant and exactly what she appears to be. O'Reilly was annoyed, "How can you not believe it?"

O'Reilly tried another angle reading a quote from Sheehan's first meeting with Bush where she said, "I now know that President Bush is sincere. I think he is sorry and feels some pain." Unable to accept the fact that Sheehan's perception of the meeting had changed, O'Reilly claimed she was lying. By this time, he was very agitated.

Trippi went after O'Reilly for using such a charged word since there is so much hate spewing around the net because people in power use words like liar . O'Reilly actually backed down and agreed with Trippi about the word but would not concede the possibility that Cindy Sheehan had been truthful.

Next came the ex husband of Dolores Kesterman who also had a son killed in Iraq and appeared on The Factor last week. During her appearance, it was clear that O'Reilly had wanted her to denounce Sheehan but she supported her instead.

Tonight Dolores Kesterman's ex husband and his wife expressed support for the war and then O'Reilly tried to get them to bad mouth Dolores saying, "You raised Eric.Are you angry with her?" The Kesterman's seemed surprised that he would ask that question and emphatically expressed their understanding and support for Dolores and Cindy Sheehan. Not giving up, he told them that he was dissapointed that Dolores didn't agree with the idea that Eric's death was for a noble cause. The segment ended with Bill O'Reilly looking a little bit worse to his viewers .

Bill's final hope was with Joan Vennochi who he introduced as a classmate from Boston University. O'Reilly went after Vennochi for writing an article about Cinndy Sheehan that didn't mention all her left wing connections. Vennochi sarcastically answered that she had written it before O'Reilly's expose of Sheehan.

Then Vennochi nailed him and his chance for redemption tonight was gone. She advised him to stop wasting time investigating Sheehan and start investigating people like Rumsfeld and Condi Rice.Vennochi added that Bush missed a huge opportunity by not meeting with Sheehan.
That was not what Bill wanted to hear at all.

Well I will pick up tomarrow where I left off tonight..c ya

Jo Canadian

#74

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

Hard-Luck Henry

#75

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by bulldog

Can't anyone ever admit defeat graciously?

Bull Dog

You really are quite delusional, aren't you?

It's a tragic fact of life that personal disasters such as that suffered by the Sheehans often ends with relationships breaking down. I see no evidence that Mr Sheehan is seeking a divorce because he disagrees with his wife's position on their son's death, probably because their isn't any. That's just something you choose to infer, because it suits your own twisted take on this. I must say, I find your attempts to make a game of this family's personal tragedy incredibly shallow and mean-spirited, although that's nothing more than I'm coming to expect from you.

Ocean Breeze

Free Thinker

#76

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Hard-Luck Henry

Quote: Originally Posted by bulldog

Can't anyone ever admit defeat graciously?

Bull Dog
You really are quite delusional, aren't you?

It's a tragic fact of life that personal disasters such as that suffered by the Sheehans often ends with relationships breaking down. I see no evidence that Mr Sheehan is seeking a divorce because he disagrees with his wife's position on their son's death, probably because their isn't any. That's just something you choose to infer, because it suits your own twisted take on this. I must say, I find your attempts to make a game of this family's personal tragedy incredibly shallow and mean-spirited, although that's nothing more than I'm coming to expect from you.

BRAVO!! ( whatever Cindy's personal situation is .......is HER business. So sad to see how low some will go by making it their business. Just a silly diversional distraction from the key issues..... which is the same old tiresome game them neo con-bush types will play. ( emphasis on the CON (CONfidence tricks, swindle, cheat , manipulate, lie )......as con is exactly what they do..... and really think they get away with it. ......

peapod

#77

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Aug 16th, 2005

Makes you wonder if bulldog was front and centre ranting and foaming at the mouth in front of terry schiavo hospital. The GALL of some people to stick their noses into other peoples lives, like they know them personally and what their lives are about is mind boggling.

Nascar_James

#78

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by zenfisher

Quote: Originally Posted by Nascar_James
Casey Sheehan must be turning in his grave right now.

Here is a kid, a hero who fought for his country having his name tarnished my his hypocritical mother.

Yes, hypocritical. This is a woman who is unstable with absolutely no credibility. Last year, when her son died, she praised President Bush for his efforts on the war against terrorism and now all of a sudden she has turned against him. Seems she has caught the flip-flop bug.

Here is what she said after a meeting with the President in June 2004 (about 2 months after the April 2004 death of her son)...

"I now know Bush is sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis, I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith. That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together."

Also, what Cindy Sheehan fails to understand is her son wasn't drafted to join the army, he voluntarily enlisted because he believed in fighting for his country. No one told him he had to go fight, so what is she complaining about? It was his decision to go!!! President Bush did not tell him to enlist!!!
So why then is Georgie boy afraid to speak with her? Hmmm... GOP
George.. Over Paranoid ?

Because the President already spoke to her last year after her son died in the line of duty.

Vanni Fucci

Free Thinker

#79

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Nascar_James

Because the President already spoke to her last year after her son died in the line of duty.

Link please.

Vanni Fucci

Free Thinker

#80

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

Never mind...

Nascar_James

#81

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Vanni Fucci

Never mind...

Now you've seen first hand account of the flip-flop nature of this lady.

Vanni Fucci

Free Thinker

#82

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Nascar_James

Quote: Originally Posted by Vanni Fucci
Never mind...
Now you've seen first hand account of the flip-flop nature of this lady.

Flip-flop?

Because then she thought that Bush gave a ****, and now she doesn't?

A lot of evidence has surfaced since that first meeting that suggests that Bush had a war agenda that was propped up by lies...

...and I think that Bush's actions now, during her vigil, speak far louder than any words that were passed between them a year ago...

Nascar_James

#83

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Vanni Fucci

Quote: Originally Posted by Nascar_James
Quote: Originally Posted by Vanni Fucci
Never mind...
Now you've seen first hand account of the flip-flop nature of this lady.
Flip-flop?

Because then she thought that Bush gave a ****, and now she doesn't?

A lot of evidence has surfaced since that first meeting that suggests that Bush had a war agenda that was propped up by lies...

...and I think that Bush's actions now, during her vigil, speak far louder than any words that were passed between them a year ago...

Someone doesn't just change overnight in this way. Thanks to individuals like Michael Moore, she has been brainwashed into an image of instability and is hollering nonsense while using her late son's good name in this ridiculous circus of hers.

peapod

#84

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

nascar James said
"now you've seen first hand account of the flip-flop nature of this lady. "

First hand account of what exactly?? I tell ya, I cannots believe the nerve of you people. I guess thats part of your illness. You act like you know this women, like you have had first hand knowledge, your a peeping tom

In the words of jon stewart:

Yeah, she's a crackpot. I mean, who in their right mind raises an altar boy, eagle scout, honor student marine? What kind of parent was this woman? (Makes cuckoo sound.)

Yet, you a peeping tom, you have no clue what this women feels. Your part of a larger group of peeping toms, you will try to smear anyone that does not fit your political agenda.

Somebody call the cops, there a perv in the neighbourhood.....no its not the good humor man

Vanni Fucci

Free Thinker

#85

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 16th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Nascar_James

Someone doesn't just change overnight in this way. Thanks to individuals like Michael Moore, she has been brainwashed into an image of instability and is hollering nonsense while using her late son's good name in this ridiculous circus of hers.

Bull****!!

When first she met Bush, it had only been 11 weeks since her son had died. The article explicitly stated that she wanted to confront Bush then about the need for her to know that her son had not died in vain.

With the confirmation of no WMD and the Downing Street Memo backing up her worst fears, of course she's going to change her mind about Bush and the war.

And if anyone's using her son's good name to their own ends, it would be those that try to villify her.

no1important

#86

RE: Mr. Bush, There's Som

Aug 16th, 2005

I see her husband is filing for divorce. Even though he disagrees with whats she is doing and they were seperated he should still stand by her. Cindy Sheehan's husband seeks divorce

She is also planning to move to a military veterans property. I see her crosses were vandelized last night as well.
Anti-war protester Sheehan to move campsite

I feel sorry for this woman, she seems to be having a very bad week.

Ocean Breeze

Free Thinker

#87

Re: RE: Mr. Bush, There's Som

Aug 17th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by no1important

I see her husband is filing for divorce. Even though he disagrees with whats she is doing and they were seperated he should still stand by her. Cindy Sheehan's husband seeks divorce

She is also planning to move to a military veterans property. I see her crosses were vandelized last night as well.
Anti-war protester Sheehan to move campsite

I feel sorry for this woman, she seems to be having a very bad week.

bad week indeed. But it has an eerie portrayal of the current US society .....She comes in a peaceful demonstration and with a peaceful request. She is met with silent arrogance. She is met with vandalism. She is met with the aggression of the bush type followers who just love to bash (character assassinate)the person and distract from the issue.

Just hope that there are no "accidental " shootings in this trigger/ , gun happy area of Texas.. *US. Texas might not have b een her best choice.....for this activity.

zenfisher

#88

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 17th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Nascar_James

Quote: Originally Posted by zenfisher
Quote: Originally Posted by Nascar_James
Casey Sheehan must be turning in his grave right now.

Here is a kid, a hero who fought for his country having his name tarnished my his hypocritical mother.

Yes, hypocritical. This is a woman who is unstable with absolutely no credibility. Last year, when her son died, she praised President Bush for his efforts on the war against terrorism and now all of a sudden she has turned against him. Seems she has caught the flip-flop bug.

Here is what she said after a meeting with the President in June 2004 (about 2 months after the April 2004 death of her son)...

"I now know Bush is sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis, I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith. That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together."

Also, what Cindy Sheehan fails to understand is her son wasn't drafted to join the army, he voluntarily enlisted because he believed in fighting for his country. No one told him he had to go fight, so what is she complaining about? It was his decision to go!!! President Bush did not tell him to enlist!!!
So why then is Georgie boy afraid to speak with her? Hmmm... GOP
George.. Over Paranoid ?
Because the President already spoke to her last year after her son died in the line of duty.

Oh I see ...its okay to meet with a grieving mother when it meets your political ends...but when she suddenly come to her senses and realizes that she was being used... she then becomes a crackpot, a flip flopper, a hypocrite. Sorry its the other way. Bush becomes the hypocrite. The arrogance that emits from this president is unbelievable.

Of the people...eh?

Vanni Fucci

Free Thinker

#89

Re: RE: Mr. Bush, There's Som

Aug 17th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze

Just hope that there are no "accidental " shootings in this trigger/ , gun happy area of Texas.. *US. Texas might not have b een her best choice.....for this activity.

Shotgun blasts startle anti-war protesters

Crosses vandalized at antiwar mom's Texas camp site

Jo Canadian

#90

Re: Mr. Bush, There's Someone Waiting, and Waiting, to See Y

Aug 17th, 2005

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