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Censorship

Dahr Jamail, Electronic Iraq

23 June 2005

At long last, the culminating session of the World Tribunal on Iraq is upon us. As a witness providing testimony, like the other witnesses I'm being interviewed by many outlets. Today, one of them was by reporters for one of the larger newspapers in Turkey, the Yeni Safak Newspaper.

I'll leave the reporters nameless, for reasons you'll soon see.

The newspaper has been translating various articles of mine into Turkish and running them, particularly those concerning the most recent Fallujah massacre. The reporter who was interviewing me today told me that the former American consulate here, Eric Edelman, asked the Prime Minister of Turkey to pressure his paper to not run so many of my stories.

"Why did he do this," I asked him.

"Edelman said it was the wrong news," he told me with a smile.

Turns out Edelman also asked that articles by Robert Fisk and Naomi Klein not be run so often in Yeni Safak either.

He smiled at me while he watched the wheels turning in my head before I smiled back and said, "That makes me very happy, it means I'm doing my job as a journalist."

We laughed heartily together at this, as did everyone else at the table.

Reminds me of the obtuse hate mails I sometimes receive -confirmation that I am doing my job- they always make me smile.

So the American government is pressuring foreign countries to censor their news. Aside from the fact that this act is the height of arrogance by the United States, it makes it exceedingly clear why so many Americans who rely on the corporate media for their news continue to be so misinformed/un-informed about the goings on in Iraq. If the American government is attempting to censor the news in foreign countries, you can imagine what they are doing at home.

Because people like Edelman don't want citizens of the United States to know that events like the massacre of Fallujah or the atrocities in Abu Ghraib are not isolated incidents.

People like Edelman don't want people to know what one of my sources in Baquba just told me today.

His email reads:

"Near the city of Buhrez, 5 kilometers south of Baquba, two Humvess of American soldiers were destroyed recently. American and Iraqi soldiers came to the city afterwards and cut all the phones, cut the water, cut medicine from arriving in the city and told them that until the people of the city bring the "terrorists" to them, the embargo will continue."

The embargo has been in place now for one week now, and he continued:

"The Americans still won't anyone or any medicines and supplies into Buhrez, nor will they allow any people in or out. Even the Al-Sadr followers who organized some help for the people in the city (water, food, medicine) are not being allowed into the city. Even journalists cannot enter to publish the news, and the situation there is so bad. The Americans keep asking for the people in the city to bring them the persons who were in charge of destroying the two Humvees on the other side of the city, but of course the people in the city don't know who carried out the attack."

People like Edelman don't want people to know about the recent US attacks in Al-Qa'im and Haditha either. Attacks that Iraqis are describing as just as bad as the massacre of Fallujah.

On Haditha and Al-Qa'im, an Iraqi doctor sent me this email yesterday:

"Listen...we witnessed crimes in the west area of the country of what the bastards did in Haditha and Al-Qa'im. It was a crime, a really big crime we have witnessed and filmed in those places and recently also in Fallujah. We need big help in the western area of the country. Our doctors need urgent help there. Please, this is an URGENT humanitarian request from the hospitals in the west of the country. We have big proof on how the American troops destroyed one of our hospitals, how they burned the whole store of medication of the west area of Iraq and how they killed a patient in the ward...how they prevented us from helping the people in al-Qa'im. This is an URGENT Humanitarian request. The
hospitals in the west of Iraq ask for urgent help...we are in a big humanitarian medical disaster..."

People like Edelman don't want the public to know that the same tactics used in Fallujah by the US military -posting snipers around the city to shoot anyone who moves, targeting ambulances, impeding medical care, or the detaining of innocent civilians en masse.

After all, Fallujah is the model. Fallujah is our Guernica. And now, Haditha, Al-Qa'im can be added to the list, with Baquba and Buhrez under deconstruction.



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moghrabi

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It does not matter if you heard of the site or where it is based. Can you comment on the article for once and quit spinning. You are making everyone dizzy.
 

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It is an organization against the war. It could be based anywhere in the world. You are still spinning around ITN. Did you read the article, If yes, please comment on it. If not, then please read it or ignore it.
 

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Then have your free speech to yourself. You are not adding any benefit to this board by spinning around. You have nothing of real value to add nor have any opinion of your own. I see jumping from agreeing with one to agreeing with the other. You have no firm belief of your own.

I might be the most anti-war person here but at least I am sticking to my guns regarding this issue. I defend what I believe in until someone absolutely prove to me that I am wrong. Can you please stand up and argue a topic for once.

Correct me if i am wrong.
 

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Re: RE: Censorship

moghrabi said:
Then have your free speech to yourself. You are not adding any benefit to this board by spinning around. You have nothing of real value to add nor have any opinion of your own. I see jumping from agreeing with one to agreeing with the other. You have no firm belief of your own.

I might be the most anti-war person here but at least I am sticking to my guns regarding this issue. I defend what I believe in until someone absolutely prove to me that I am wrong. Can you please stand up and argue a topic for once.

Correct me if i am wrong.

You are wrong, prove to me by finding and posting any of my posts that I jump around in opinions. Nice try, but your bullshit doesn't wash.
 

moghrabi

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You hate my bullshit because it hits the soft spot ITN. All i am asking for is an intelligent discussion of the article posted. Is that hard?
 

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It;s a pity that there will never be a War Crimes Tribunal set up to prosecute these bastards. I believe this type of military action happens all the time over there. it is quite similar to what the Nazis did to any who resisted their forces.
 

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moghrabi said:
You hate my bullshit because it hits the soft spot ITN. All i am asking for is an intelligent discussion of the article posted. Is that hard?

Your topic is censorship, if you don't want a discussion on censorship then change the topic.
 

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Dahr Jamail is relatively well-known journalist. Naomi Klein and Robert Fisk are as well. They have at least as much credibility as anybody in the mainstream US press and their work appears in many international publications.

According to Reporters Without Borders 2003 report, press freedom in Iraq actually went down when the US first took over. It rose a little for last year's report, but is still terrible.

The United States itself ranks behind Canada and much of Europe, as well. They have less press freedom than much of the developed world. This would be an example of why.

"Near the city of Buhrez, 5 kilometers south of Baquba, two Humvess of American soldiers were destroyed recently. American and Iraqi soldiers came to the city afterwards and cut all the phones, cut the water, cut medicine from arriving in the city and told them that until the people of the city bring the "terrorists" to them, the embargo will continue."

That's a description of a war crime. Collective punishment is against international law. Purposely punishing civilians is against international law. Depriving civilians of the necessities of life is against international law.
 

missile

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The Cuban detention camp is another part of the censorship by the gov't.Trying to depict it as a resort with great food is laughable.Also,Dan Rathers and Bill Moyers are victims of the anti free pressers.
 

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Reverend Blair said:
The United States itself ranks behind Canada and much of Europe, as well. They have less press freedom than much of the developed world.

Reporters without Borders 2005

"Reporters Without Borders announces its third annual worldwide index of press freedom. Such freedom is threatened most in East Asia (with North Korea at the bottom of the entire list at 167th place, followed by Burma 165th, China 162nd, Vietnam 161st and Laos 153rd) and the Middle East (Saudi Arabia 159th, Iran 158th, Syria 155th, Iraq 148th). "

"The two North American giants score well
A police raid in Canada on the home of journalist Juliet O'Neil and the national regulatory authority's stand against the pan-Arab radio station Al-Jazeera and the local station CHOI FM downgraded the country to 18th place. Violations of the privacy of sources, persistent problems in granting press visas and the arrest of several journalists during anti-Bush demonstrations kept the United States (22nd) away from the top of the list. "

Those are the reasons why.
 

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22nd place, ITN. The things that hurt Canada's standing are related to the fake war on terrror too.

Oh, and you left out that the US in Iraq, which is much more pertinent to the subject of this thread, was 108th. That's one worse than that bastion of press freedoms known as Kyrgyzstan.
 

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Reverend Blair said:
22nd place, ITN. The things that hurt Canada's standing are related to the fake war on terrror too.

Oh, and you left out that the US in Iraq, which is much more pertinent to the subject of this thread, was 108th. That's one worse than that bastion of press freedoms known as Kyrgyzstan.

If I wanted to intentionally pass it by, I would of never have posted the link. Considering Iraq is under the military occupation, it didn't do so bad than say.....Russia (140th)? Oh yes and the human rights leader in the UN.......Libya(154th)? And lets not forget the benevolent Socialist "democracy" of....tada....Cuba (166th).
 

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I think not said:
Very interesting site, never heard of it. Interesting how they are based in Chicago.

Ok, I'm confused. Moghrabi, how is this spinning? I'm asking for a real answer here ... why does it matter where the site is based? I honestly don't understand the subtext to this comment, if there is one.

I understand how important it is to you that awareness of the war is kept in the forefront, but if you put up a link, people are free to comment on it. Freedom of speech does go both ways. Unless I'm missing something here, I don't understand the problem.
 

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Cosmo said:
I think not said:
Very interesting site, never heard of it. Interesting how they are based in Chicago.

Ok, I'm confused. Moghrabi, how is this spinning? I'm asking for a real answer here ... why does it matter where the site is based? I honestly don't understand the subtext to this comment, if there is one.

I understand how important it is to you that awareness of the war is kept in the forefront, but if you put up a link, people are free to comment on it. Freedom of speech does go both ways. Unless I'm missing something here, I don't understand the problem.

ITN said the site is based in Chicago. The point is censorship not the location of the website where I got the information from. ITN is in the habit of not getting involved in the real discussion of the topic but rather SPIN and say things such as well this site is based in Chicago.

He is free to comment on it and argue against it. But if you look at his comment, it has nothing to do with to topic.
 

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moghrabi said:
Cosmo said:
I think not said:
Very interesting site, never heard of it. Interesting how they are based in Chicago.

Ok, I'm confused. Moghrabi, how is this spinning? I'm asking for a real answer here ... why does it matter where the site is based? I honestly don't understand the subtext to this comment, if there is one.

I understand how important it is to you that awareness of the war is kept in the forefront, but if you put up a link, people are free to comment on it. Freedom of speech does go both ways. Unless I'm missing something here, I don't understand the problem.

ITN said the site is based in Chicago. The point is censorship not the location of the website where I got the information from. ITN is in the habit of not getting involved in the real discussion of the topic but rather SPIN and say things such as well this site is based in Chicago.

He is free to comment on it and argue against it. But if you look at his comment, it has nothing to do with to topic.

You put up a site that said the US censors Iraqi journalists, I found it ironic the site was based in the US, it's not a big leap.
 

moghrabi

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The article talks about journalists in the war zone ITN, you knew that. And that is exactly why I said you are spinning. They do censor and KILL journalists in Iraq before they show you the real massacres. The article does not talk about censorship in the US.