From Watergate to Downing Street -- Lying for War


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Ocean Breeze
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Interesting interview with J.Conyers.


seems that just as SH must be held accountable for his actions, words and deeds. so must Bush and his merry warloving gang.

Justice must prevail.
 
Ocean Breeze
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above offers more insite into the "workings" of the bush regime.

.........most of which has been suspected anyhow.
 
Ocean Breeze
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interesting media "black out " on the Downing street memo.

The US media has a great deal of power ...if it were able to use it constructively.

Whatever the media minmizes in its reporting is soon lost from the collective consciousness. What the media dramatizes (M.Jackson , runaway bride etc) remains in the forefront .

curious priorities.
 
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Ocean Breeze
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Media censorship is alive and well in the US. As most USers rely only on their media for information.......they are not able to discern if the information they are getting is complete.

(ergo the critical importance of sourcing out information from sources OUTSIDE the US now)


(thanks Joe for the very appropriate 'toons)
 
Ocean Breeze
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memogate hearings : June 16.

Americans are starting to demand some TRUTHS.


(EXCELLENT !!)
 
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secrets and lies.
 
Ocean Breeze
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"they" needed an "excuse" to invade Iraq....

.........and fabricated the WMD "threat"


SH may have been an SOB......but the USG sure ain't much better.

*but to listen to them, one would think they held the premium on the higher ethical/moral standard*

Gosh, have these bozos deluded themselves......or what ??


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Downing street 11

One has to wonder how it has become "acceptable" to a supposedly progressive society , to lie , spin, in order to invade , kill , maim...and destroy a far off nation that posed no threat to the US.

What happened to the ethical/moral core/standard of the nation??---the same one that "preaches" the "higher" standard.....???

It is like watching the US implode from within
 
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Check this out OB --

hi mrmom.

actually this is no surprise , as when one correlates the data that is "known"...... there is a certain "thread " there.

thanks for the link. (had not seen that before)

Kinda suspected that part of the "motivation" had something to do with his own inadequacies as a person. ----and the son /father rivalry .
 
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strategy of lies.


Hard to believe that "Americans" would get so bent out of shape about some personal philandering,(the Bill/Monica series) yet be so complacent about lies that have killed so many. (including their own fine troops)

hmm. maybe Bill should have said something about "freedom, democracy , (freedom of sexual expression being his right etc) and then it would have been fine.

who knows how these "minds" work??
 
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the lie of the century.

( excelling in the competition for big lies)
 
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more documents "leaked"???


could get "interesting."

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the "fix is in"...........smoking gun.

(listen to bush's response. and he does this with a straight face)
 
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I tell you Ocean nothing surprises me anymore about these liars thieves and murderes These guys would sell their first born to make a buck .I just hope they get whats they deserve its starting to look like their plan is falling apart A couple more whistle blowers and I think they're done.We can only hope
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by mrmom2

I tell you Ocean nothing surprises me anymore about these liars thieves and murderes These guys would sell their first born to make a buck .I just hope they get whats they deserve its starting to look like their plan is falling apart A couple more whistle blowers and I think they're done.We can only hope

hi mrmom. check out the video on the last link I posted.

things just might be coming apart. (HOPING......big time)

will be interesting to watch as more people assertively question the bush administration. (of course bush will repeat the same pat-robotic - responses (lies).......as he usually does.

(still can't believe they actually "re-elected" this bozo. ---remember the "anyone but bush" slogans??? )


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"It's not a matter of what is true that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true." --Henry Kissinger

One has to assume this still works with the sheeple.

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.........."they " had no choice but to find a way to "make it "legal"........ ergo the threat of WMD.

can anyone recall bush's lies to the UN??? Remember that speach?? Gosh, he was ALMOST convincing....
 
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Some definitive answers are called for ........and soon.

No more evasive tactics from the bushzarrio.

(well, one can hope)

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a momentum afoot?? Don't think this issue can be easily dismissed.......although , some would prefer that to be the case.

The US population and the world at large , has a right to KNOW.
 
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It's getting there. It will be fully dandy when Fox is forced to take it seriously. Pffft...like that's going to happen.

I think the rest of press will be forced to pick up on it though...pressure is building.
 
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First off people lets call the Downing streeet documents what they are PAPERS there not some little memo like mainstream media is selling us Heres a prediction for you Bush and the gang are going to turn up the heat on Koffi for the oil for food scandal and try and deflect peoples attention away from themselves I don't think this will work though at least I hope so
 
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and try and deflect peoples attention away from themselves


this IS their usual "tactic" isn't it??? (albeit transparent)

By using this tactic, they continue to engender even more resentment at themselves. "they" fail to comprehend that most do not "appreciate" this kind of manipulative game playing .....or being targetted for diversional selfish purposes.

What is needed is a few more Galloways.......to resoundly , keep putting them in their place and calling their game what it is.

(diplomacy does not work with the USG
 
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another "tactic" favored by the bu****es.

("they" really are a nasty bunch )
 
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wonder how long the bush regime can keep spinning, dismissing this . Waiting to see what other big lie they will come up with to try to pacify the nation. Professional spin drs...that they are.
 
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bush should be impeached AND prosecuted for war crimes.

( a no brainer)

but will it happen??? The story unfolds.....and the pressure is building.

the stand alone catch phrase: importance of completing the mission , does not wash......as due to all the lies , no one really knows what the "mission' really is.
 
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please watch the video. ( viewer discretion advised) And try to reconcile bush's words with the reality.

Hard to comprehend what "reality" bush lives in as everything he utters is such trash. ......and so far removed from truths.

He can't be THAT stupid , or can he?? Or are his speach writers pulling the "stupid" strings.?
 
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interesting results when one takes the poll


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bush's watergate??? ( might need a new term for this one)

Bushgate. might work.
 
Reverend Blair
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I think they should call it, "The Bush War Crimes Affair."

It's much worse than Watergate was, afterall.
 
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I think they should call it, "The Bush War Crimes Affair."

It's much worse than Watergate was, afterall.

hi rev: the only stickler with your idea is that "they"like the suffix "gate" attached to these kinds of situations

BushWar-gate???

gotta turn on the creative juices to come up with one.


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More media is picking up this issue. (wondering if most Americans are reluctant to believe that their "prez" would do such a thing.....and are still trying to justify in their minds. When it actually "sinks in" .....there could be some major outrage. )
 
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