Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Rick van Opbergen

#121

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

I thought you being sarcastic again, moghrabi. Anyway, if-if-if ... I'm a rational person and I want proof. That's why I also don't believe in God ... You could also say: why do you believe in what happened on 9/11 - which could be a good question. I guess so far there's no good alternative, and it's better to discuss this with people who are not convinced about the official story of 9/11 than with people who are, not?

Rick van Opbergen

#122

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

I thought you being sarcastic again, moghrabi. Anyway, if-if-if ... I'm a rational person and I want proof. That's why I also don't believe in God ... You could also say: why do you believe in what happened on 9/11 - which could be a good question. I guess so far there's no good alternative, and it's better to discuss this with people who are not convinced about the official story of 9/11 than with people who are, not?

Rick van Opbergen

#123

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

I thought you being sarcastic again, moghrabi. Anyway, if-if-if ... I'm a rational person and I want proof. That's why I also don't believe in God ... You could also say: why do you believe in what happened on 9/11 - which could be a good question. I guess so far there's no good alternative, and it's better to discuss this with people who are not convinced about the official story of 9/11 than with people who are, not?

Rick van Opbergen

#124

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

Yes, it was RUMORED, I get it moghrabi ... May I answer that one pleassseeee?

Rick van Opbergen

#125

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

Yes, it was RUMORED, I get it moghrabi ... May I answer that one pleassseeee?

Rick van Opbergen

#126

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

Yes, it was RUMORED, I get it moghrabi ... May I answer that one pleassseeee?

Stretch

Free Thinker

#127

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

the passengers were/are collateral damge as shrub would say.

I said they might've been taken to a base such as Dulce because those that "staged" 911 are the same ones that run these bases.......

Stretch

Free Thinker

#128

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

the passengers were/are collateral damge as shrub would say.

I said they might've been taken to a base such as Dulce because those that "staged" 911 are the same ones that run these bases.......

Stretch

Free Thinker

#129

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

the passengers were/are collateral damge as shrub would say.

I said they might've been taken to a base such as Dulce because those that "staged" 911 are the same ones that run these bases.......

moghrabi

#130

Re: RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Rick van Opbergen

I thought you being sarcastic again, moghrabi. Anyway, if-if-if ... I'm a rational person and I want proof. That's why I also don't believe in God ... You could also say: why do you believe in what happened on 9/11 - which could be a good question. I guess so far there's no good alternative, and it's better to discuss this with people who are not convinced about the official story of 9/11 than with people who are, not?

Good. First I am not being sarcastic about the disappearance of few hundred people. The US made thousands disappear before.

second, I belive in God but it is hard to prove to you. This is what I meant by convincing evidence.

third, you may answer the question about the 5000 or so Jews. But I also like to hear from Stretch.

moghrabi

#131

Re: RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Rick van Opbergen

I thought you being sarcastic again, moghrabi. Anyway, if-if-if ... I'm a rational person and I want proof. That's why I also don't believe in God ... You could also say: why do you believe in what happened on 9/11 - which could be a good question. I guess so far there's no good alternative, and it's better to discuss this with people who are not convinced about the official story of 9/11 than with people who are, not?

Good. First I am not being sarcastic about the disappearance of few hundred people. The US made thousands disappear before.

second, I belive in God but it is hard to prove to you. This is what I meant by convincing evidence.

third, you may answer the question about the 5000 or so Jews. But I also like to hear from Stretch.

moghrabi

#132

Re: RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Rick van Opbergen

I thought you being sarcastic again, moghrabi. Anyway, if-if-if ... I'm a rational person and I want proof. That's why I also don't believe in God ... You could also say: why do you believe in what happened on 9/11 - which could be a good question. I guess so far there's no good alternative, and it's better to discuss this with people who are not convinced about the official story of 9/11 than with people who are, not?

Good. First I am not being sarcastic about the disappearance of few hundred people. The US made thousands disappear before.

second, I belive in God but it is hard to prove to you. This is what I meant by convincing evidence.

third, you may answer the question about the 5000 or so Jews. But I also like to hear from Stretch.

Stretch

Free Thinker

#133

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

it was in a poem Mog.

New Jersey governor calls for state's poet laureate, Amiri Baraka, to resign over Sept. 11 poem
TRENTON, N.J. (AP) Gov. James E. McGreevey has called for the resignation of the state's poet laureate, citing a poem critical of Israel that Amiri Baraka read at a festival earlier this month.

Baraka read his poem, ''Somebody Blew Up America,'' at the 2002 Geraldine R. Dodge Poetry Festival at Waterloo Village in Stanhope on Sept. 19.

''Who knew the World Trade Center was gonna get bombed,'' read a line from the poem, which was cited by the Jewish Standard weekly newspaper. ''Who told 4,000 Israeli workers at the Twin Towers to stay home that day? Why did Sharon stay away?''

Some Jewish groups have characterized the poem as anti-Semitic.
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Stretch

Free Thinker

#134

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

it was in a poem Mog.

New Jersey governor calls for state's poet laureate, Amiri Baraka, to resign over Sept. 11 poem
TRENTON, N.J. (AP) Gov. James E. McGreevey has called for the resignation of the state's poet laureate, citing a poem critical of Israel that Amiri Baraka read at a festival earlier this month.

Baraka read his poem, ''Somebody Blew Up America,'' at the 2002 Geraldine R. Dodge Poetry Festival at Waterloo Village in Stanhope on Sept. 19.

''Who knew the World Trade Center was gonna get bombed,'' read a line from the poem, which was cited by the Jewish Standard weekly newspaper. ''Who told 4,000 Israeli workers at the Twin Towers to stay home that day? Why did Sharon stay away?''

Some Jewish groups have characterized the poem as anti-Semitic.
--

Stretch

Free Thinker

#135

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

it was in a poem Mog.

New Jersey governor calls for state's poet laureate, Amiri Baraka, to resign over Sept. 11 poem
TRENTON, N.J. (AP) Gov. James E. McGreevey has called for the resignation of the state's poet laureate, citing a poem critical of Israel that Amiri Baraka read at a festival earlier this month.

Baraka read his poem, ''Somebody Blew Up America,'' at the 2002 Geraldine R. Dodge Poetry Festival at Waterloo Village in Stanhope on Sept. 19.

''Who knew the World Trade Center was gonna get bombed,'' read a line from the poem, which was cited by the Jewish Standard weekly newspaper. ''Who told 4,000 Israeli workers at the Twin Towers to stay home that day? Why did Sharon stay away?''

Some Jewish groups have characterized the poem as anti-Semitic.
--

Rick van Opbergen

#136

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

I see. Well I do not think that line of thinking can be equaled to terms of proof or can be given as an explanation.

Rick van Opbergen

#137

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

I see. Well I do not think that line of thinking can be equaled to terms of proof or can be given as an explanation.

Rick van Opbergen

#138

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

I see. Well I do not think that line of thinking can be equaled to terms of proof or can be given as an explanation.

moghrabi

#139

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

This is why before I asked you the question I said I don't want to sound anti-Semitic. So you do believe this rumor as I do?

moghrabi

#140

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

This is why before I asked you the question I said I don't want to sound anti-Semitic. So you do believe this rumor as I do?

moghrabi

#141

RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

This is why before I asked you the question I said I don't want to sound anti-Semitic. So you do believe this rumor as I do?

moghrabi

#142

Re: RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Rick van Opbergen

I see. Well I do not think that line of thinking can be equaled to terms of proof or can be given as an explanation.

What do you mean?

moghrabi

#143

Re: RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Rick van Opbergen

I see. Well I do not think that line of thinking can be equaled to terms of proof or can be given as an explanation.

What do you mean?

moghrabi

#144

Re: RE: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by Rick van Opbergen

I see. Well I do not think that line of thinking can be equaled to terms of proof or can be given as an explanation.

What do you mean?

Rick van Opbergen

#145

Re: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

This thread is going fast - or am I just being slow?

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

Good. First I am not being sarcastic about the disappearance of few hundred people. The US made thousands disappear before.

Can you imagine I thought you were when you started about whales (sharks) which supposably ate these passengers?

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

Second, I belive in God but it is hard to prove to you. This is what I meant by convincing evidence.

I agree. But can you also understand that from my point of view, I think "we" need more certainty?

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

Third, you may answer the question about the 5000 or so Jews. But I also like to hear from Stretch.

The stories which circulate around the Internet have spoken about this RUMOR. However, there does not seem to be a base for it. It is often connected with the rumor that no Jews were killed during the WTC attacks. One look in the Portraits Of Grief (New York Times) though suggests otherwise.

Rick van Opbergen

#146

Re: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

This thread is going fast - or am I just being slow?

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

Good. First I am not being sarcastic about the disappearance of few hundred people. The US made thousands disappear before.

Can you imagine I thought you were when you started about whales (sharks) which supposably ate these passengers?

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

Second, I belive in God but it is hard to prove to you. This is what I meant by convincing evidence.

I agree. But can you also understand that from my point of view, I think "we" need more certainty?

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

Third, you may answer the question about the 5000 or so Jews. But I also like to hear from Stretch.

The stories which circulate around the Internet have spoken about this RUMOR. However, there does not seem to be a base for it. It is often connected with the rumor that no Jews were killed during the WTC attacks. One look in the Portraits Of Grief (New York Times) though suggests otherwise.

Rick van Opbergen

#147

Re: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

This thread is going fast - or am I just being slow?

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

Good. First I am not being sarcastic about the disappearance of few hundred people. The US made thousands disappear before.

Can you imagine I thought you were when you started about whales (sharks) which supposably ate these passengers?

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

Second, I belive in God but it is hard to prove to you. This is what I meant by convincing evidence.

I agree. But can you also understand that from my point of view, I think "we" need more certainty?

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

Third, you may answer the question about the 5000 or so Jews. But I also like to hear from Stretch.

The stories which circulate around the Internet have spoken about this RUMOR. However, there does not seem to be a base for it. It is often connected with the rumor that no Jews were killed during the WTC attacks. One look in the Portraits Of Grief (New York Times) though suggests otherwise.

Rick van Opbergen

#148

Re: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

What do you mean?

That comment was meant for Stretch. That's why the comment in my previous post, "This thread is going fast - or am I just being slow?"

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

This is why before I asked you the question I said I don't want to sound anti-Semitic. So you do believe this rumor as I do?

Well I'm certainly not calling you anti-Semitic, but I do want to ask you: how high do you rank the credibility of a rumor like this one, that 5,000 Jews allegedly did not go to work on 9/11?

Rick van Opbergen

#149

Re: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

What do you mean?

That comment was meant for Stretch. That's why the comment in my previous post, "This thread is going fast - or am I just being slow?"

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

This is why before I asked you the question I said I don't want to sound anti-Semitic. So you do believe this rumor as I do?

Well I'm certainly not calling you anti-Semitic, but I do want to ask you: how high do you rank the credibility of a rumor like this one, that 5,000 Jews allegedly did not go to work on 9/11?

Rick van Opbergen

#150

Re: Ten things we learned in 2004 about 9/11

Jan 8th, 2005

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

What do you mean?

That comment was meant for Stretch. That's why the comment in my previous post, "This thread is going fast - or am I just being slow?"

Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

This is why before I asked you the question I said I don't want to sound anti-Semitic. So you do believe this rumor as I do?

Well I'm certainly not calling you anti-Semitic, but I do want to ask you: how high do you rank the credibility of a rumor like this one, that 5,000 Jews allegedly did not go to work on 9/11?

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