Prospects for Saddam Trial Still Uncertain

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Prospects for Saddam Trial Still Uncertain

Dec 12, 1:56 PM (ET)

By NICK WADHAMS


BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - In the year since he was captured and hustled away to a secret location, Saddam Hussein has taken up gardening, undergone a hernia operation and written poetry that one visitor describes as "rubbishy." What he has not done is meet with any of the 20 lawyers who claim to represent him.

And with the country in the grips of an insurgency that remains strong, predicting when Iraq's most famous prisoner will be tried is no easier now than it was on the day he was pulled from his hiding spot in a spider hole near his hometown of Tikrit.

When Saddam first appeared before an Iraqi court in July, some officials predicted a swift trial. Ever since, they have said October, November, or by the end of the year. Now, they expect it no earlier than the beginning of 2006, Iraq's National Security Adviser Mouwafak al-Rubaie told The Associated Press.

"This is going to be probably the trial of the century and we have to get it right," al-Rubaie said. "We can't suddenly try him and sentence him to either life in prison or whatever, execute him a 100 times as some people want to do."

Officials say the work of gathering evidence - documents, mass grave sites, testimony from victims - continues away from the public eye and beyond the reach of the insurgents. They insist that it is being done meticulously and legitimately.

American officials with the Department of Justice's Regime Crimes Liaison Office are advising the Iraqi Special Tribunal on the process of bringing Saddam to trial. The Americans paid the tribunal's budget of $75 million 2004-2005.

But with elections approaching on Jan. 30, the Iraqi government is in flux and is likely to stay that way for another year until a new constitution is drafted and another round of elections are held next December.

Trainers also face a dearth of qualified Iraqi prosecutors, defense lawyers and judges. If proper attorneys are found, they take a new kind of risk - threat from both the guerrillas, believed to be mostly Sunni Muslims like Saddam, or others trying to stymie the trial.

There are few Iraqi lawyers willing to represent him, while prosecutors fear challenging him. The same goes for the judges who are overseeing the case, slowing its work.

"At various points in time they have had a number of judges who have since withdrawn," said Hania Mufti, a spokeswoman for New York-based Human Rights Watch who has followed the case. "So that's been a practical problem on the ground."

That fact has been sobering for the Americans, who predicted Saddam's capture would cripple the insurgency. They portrayed violence immediately after his capture as the last gasp of desperate loyalists.

"Saddam's era is over," Air Force Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said days after Saddam was captured. "But it takes time for people to accept the changes."

Since then, the guerillas have continued exacting a bloody toll against U.S. troops and their Iraqi allies.

The United States is increasing troop levels to 150,000, higher than they were when the war began, in hopes of providing safety for elections set for Jan. 30.

U.S. attention has also shifted to another figure - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - believed to be leading the brutal campaign of hostage-takings, beheadings and bombings that victimized both Americans and Iraqis.

Saddam first appeared before the court July 1, without a lawyer. He was presented with seven preliminary charges that included gassing thousands of Kurds in 1988, the 1990 invasion of Kuwait, the suppression of 1991 revolts by Kurds and Shiites, the murders of religious and political leaders and the mass displacement of Kurds in the 1980s.

From Saddam's standpoint, little headway has been made since. He is said to have a 20-member legal team with lawyers from Belgium, Britain, France, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya and Tunisia, but has met none of them. A lawyer was supposed to meet him for the first time last Wednesday but the U.S. military canceled it.

"Denying him this right is a serious breach of international protocols," Saddam's lawyers, who were appointed by Saddam's wife, Sajida, said in a statement Sunday timed with the anniversary.

The Jordan-based team called for Saddam's immediate release, calling his detention "illegal right from the very beginning."

"We are extremely disappointed," said Ziad al-Khasawneh. "Nobody knows anything, except God and the American administration."

Eleven other defendants then appeared one by one to hear the charges against them.

On Sunday, a lawyer said some of the detainees have gone on hunger strike in protest of their detention, a lawyer said Sunday. A U.S. military official confirmed that some had been turning back their main meals but continue to snack on MREs.

"They don't acknowledge the legality of their trials or their detention," said the lawyer, Izzat Aref, an Iraqi who was appointed by the family of former Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz.

Some Iraqis claim the process has been politicized. Speculation once swirled that Saddam would be hastily tried and executed during the hubbub of the U.S. election. Salem Chalabi, the tribunal director, was abruptly ousted in September, and accused Prime Minister Ayad Allawi of pushing for show trials to boost his popularity ahead of the Jan. 30 elections.

"Saddam could reveal very important information and his trial could become a lesson not only for the Iraqi people but for history and humanity," said Entifadh Qanbar, spokesman for the Iraqi National Congress party, led by Chalabi's uncle Ahmad Chalabi. "Unfortunately, this opportunity is going away, and this court is losing its credibility."

The court then lost a partner when the United Nations refused to help train judges because the world body will not cooperate with courts that can impose the death penalty.

In the meantime, Saddam seems to have settled into a humdrum existence behind bars.

He receives regular visits from the Red Cross, which passes letters from him to his family. He gets out of his 12-foot by 15-foot cell twice a day for recreation, which includes exercising and tending plants, said al-Rubaie, who visited him three months ago.

Saddam has also undergone a hernia operation and his blood pressure varies, a U.S. official said. He also has an enlarged prostate which isn't an immediate concern.

He is said to be writing a novel, "Get Out, You Damned," excerpts of which have appeared in a London-based Arab newspaper, and has also written poetry.

"I can tell you one thing, they're really the most rubbishy poems on Earth," al-Rubaie told AP. "Even I could write poems in English better than he could in Arabic."

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Shouldn't they send him to the Hague like Milosovich? and be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity there. I know he is guilty as hell but it would look better if he was tried in the Hague instead of Iraq with all the American influence?

The Hague would probably give him a "fairer" trial. And not a trial based on emotion. But since "W" wants him put to death it will stay in Iraq I guess.
 

moghrabi

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exactly. GWB wants him put to death. The Hague will not put him to death but a US appointed judges in Iraq will.
 

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I do hope he gets the punishment he deserves. And the Hague could indeed be a good option, I think that the trial would indeed be "fairer", more objective. On the other hand though, it could be the wish of the Iraqis themselves to sentence him in Iraq.
 

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I don't think so. It is the American wish. Let them have a referendum if the US is going to introduce democracy. Let them vote on where he should be tried.
 

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Re: RE: Prospects for Saddam Trial Still Uncertain

no1important said:
Shouldn't they send him to the Hague like Milosovich? and be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity there. I know he is guilty as hell but it would look better if he was tried in the Hague instead of Iraq with all the American influence?

The Hague would probably give him a "fairer" trial. And not a trial based on emotion. But since "W" wants him put to death it will stay in Iraq I guess.

I agree completely with your insight, no1important. Just like other criminals, he should be tried there. **off topic** Maybe him and Bush can share a cell? **back on topic**. He'a a dreadful man, but he should be tried on the terms of International crimes, not the opinion of George W.
 

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Re: RE: Prospects for Saddam Trial Still Uncertain

moghrabi said:
Agreed. Both should share the same cell. I would be more scared of bush than Saddam. LOL

They are both dreadful men. One just has the backing of the world's most powerful media.
 

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RE: Prospects for Saddam

The thing is the the major powers, especially the US, don't want him testifying in open court. They want him shut up.

Remember Manuel Noriega?
 

moghrabi

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President of Panama Sj. He just suffered a stroke. But you are right, Rev. Saddam knows to much to put in public in the Hague. Keep him in Iraq and turn the heat up. He either dies in a heart attack and go quietly, poisoned, or a mock trial that put in at the other end of the rope.