A Forgotten Genocide

Rick van Opbergen
#1
Now, this thread is about a forgotten genocide. I would recommend you all to read this letter. It's long, but it's worth it.

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Turkey Should Recognize the Assyrian Genocide 1915

Ladies and gentlemen, honored guests,

There are two matters that need your attention! Denial and remembrance!

It is a known fact that whether committed in Africa or Asia, the most common feature of all genocides is that they have been denied by the perpetrators. Turkey denies that in 1915, the Ittihat and Terakki regime, the then Ottoman government, committed a planned, organized, and systematic genocide. In Rwanda almost one million Tutsis were massacred in merely three months. Many of the perpetrators of this genocide were arrested and incarcerated. The expression used for this massacre is a "so-called genocide". This term has always been omnipresent in the writings of those that support the official Turkish narrative.

Discussing the Assyrian and Armenian genocide is definitely a taboo subject. But as in all genocides, there are two different factions concerning this topic. On the one hand there are those in the present government who hide behind the official thesis; and there are those that pursue the interest of the people and claim that it is necessary for Turkey to come to grips with its recent past.

These two perspectives on history existed in the past. On the one hand there were those who planned the genocide to the last detail, and there were those that resisted the genocide and sheltered Christians in their homes.

The good and the bad

Seyh Fethullah was a known Muslim cleric in the region of Mardin. His portrait is on the wall of Deyrul Zaferan, a historical monastery in Mardin. The symbolic value of hanging his portrait in a monastery is to remember and honor him for his courage and conviction to act against what he thought was very wrong. That is the way it is in the entire world. It can be interpreted as a clash of good versus evil.

To understand the 1915 genocide that was committed in Turkey against its Assyrian, Armenian, and Greek citizens, you must first research the last century of the Ottoman Empire. Firstly its relationship with Britain, Germany, France, Italy, Austria-Hungary and Tsarist Russia need to be scrutinized and understood.

In that century, the Ottoman state is unable to implement the reforms that European countries urge them to. The Ottoman Empire struggles with modernity and is labeled all over the world as the "Sick Man". Many nations have gained their national independence from the Ottoman Empire. It is in this context that the Assyrians should live in their ancestral lands, which are in the Southeast of Turkey, namely in the regions of Mardin, Urfa, Harput, Diyarbekir, Van, Bitlis, and Hakkari. When the First World War broke out, Assyrian national consciousness wasn’t as developed as the Armenians who tried to defend themselves against the perpetrators. The war provided the Ottoman government with the unique opportunity to rid itself from its Christian minorities. They would be destroyed from the social and economic fabric of Ottoman society.

And it is precisely this destruction, resulting from deliberate and systematic plans from a central authority that it must be called genocide.

Where are they?

In this genocide, hundreds of thousands of people were brutally slaughtered without any mercy. Not even the women and children were spared. Many people were thrown alive into water wells, which were later on sealed. People were put on boats and taken out to sea, pushed overboard and left to drown. Hundreds of thousands of people were massacred by swords (Seyfo). Women were raped. Parents were butchered in the presence of their children. Hundreds of thousands of people were intentionally left to die of hunger and thirst in the wilderness of Mesopotamia. Great pains, great tragedies were experienced. Prior to the First World War, the population of Turkey was fourteen million; four and a half million of those were Christian people.

In other words, thirty three percent of the population was Christian. Today in Turkey, the total number of Christian people only amounts to 0.1 percent of the population.

What happened to these people? What happened to the Assyrians, Armenians and Greeks? Where are they? Where did they disappear to? Would not this diversity of people be a great wealth to a country? Then, what happened to Turkey’s greatest asset, its ethnic diversity? The annihilation of this mosaic of colors and diversity was deliberately and strategically accomplished. More than two million people were massacred and over two million people were forced to face migration. No one who can see wars, massacres and tortures taking place in many parts of the world today, has the right to think that our appeal to recognize a supposedly forgotten genocide is meaningless.

This is because opinions like these are not right. Genocide is a crime against humanity and there is no statutory limitation for a crime such as this in a free society! Such a crime should not be forgotten and if it is to be forgotten, it can lead to enormous disasters.

During the Second World War, when Hitler ordered the genocide against the Jews, Gypsies and all the democratic people, it is known that Hitler said "whoever mentions the genocide of the Armenian people?" It is clear to everyone that Hitler saw an opportunity due to the silence, ignorance and forgetfulness of the international public opinion. If the international public democratic opinion had not overlooked the genocide of our people in the shadows of the First World War, would Hitler have been able to implement a second genocide in the shadows of the Second World War?

This is why we speak to the silent majority! The aim of bringing the issue of the genocides of the past to the forum today and discussing them is not just to condemn them. This cry is equally important for people from different religions, races and cultures coexisting in democratic societies and continuing to live in security.

Only such societies, which possess a democratic mechanism and functions, may remain distant from all kinds of oppression and massacres. It should be clear that the massacres and the genocides that have been carried out until today share a unique characteristic, which is that they were all implemented in non democratic countries, and by forces opposing democracy. It is therefore important for us to know in what kind of society and world we would like to live! Do we want to live in a society of equality and brotherhood between people from different racial, religious and ethnic backgrounds; or, in societies where some brutal forces do not show even a modicum of tolerance? The source of the problem is not the diversity of ethnic backgrounds. The source of the real problem is the inability to accept and tolerate diversity and beauty!

The infidel massacre

Kemal Yalçin is a Turkish author living in Germany. Yalçin has done interviews on the genocide with many an Armenian and Assyrian. His book contains a passage of an old man that aptly summarizes the emotions and thoughts of many Assyrians.

The old man spoke as follows: "Few of us have witnessed that great, horrible catastrophe. But its wounds have shaped our memories. I suffer even from its memory! Even though we didn’t experience those frightful days, those caravans to death, we bear their scars on us. And what did those that experienced those days do? In our region the killing of the Armenians was delegated to the Kurds. Everybody knows this. The Kurds use the term "The infidel massacre". (I have to point out that the term "infidel" (gâvur) is a condescending term to depict Christians.) I’m by no means accusing all Kurds or Turks. My anger is directed to those that planned this catastrophe in detail. I will be relieved when all this is brought to light and is acknowledged. I don’t hate the Turks or the Kurds. They should be ashamed of themselves! But I prey that God will have them punished!"

These are the emotions and thoughts of the Assyrians as well. Our issue is with those that planned and implemented the genocide. Perhaps you will think that this is odd because the perpetrators are all dead. Yes they are. But it is on their heritage that a country was founded. The modern Republic of Turkey was founded in this manner. Turkey was homogenized, and this was solely due to the perpetrators. It is not an exaggeration to claim that the economic prosperity of successive political elites in Turkey could only be realized due to the genocide of the Christians. And I’m not aware of any serious research on this topic in Turkey so far.

The effects of the genocide of 1915 were both economic and political. The present political elite are still denying the genocide by asserting the following thesis: "the event is a historical event, leave it to the historians". I must say that this thesis emanates from Turkeys wish to pacify and forget the whole issue. If it really wanted to leave it to the historians, they would have been more tolerant to dissenting academics such as Taner Akçam. But we all know that it is impossible for any historian to freely speak and write on the genocide. With respect to this aspect, Turkey is far from being a democratic society. Democratic societies don’t have taboos. The descendants of Assyrian, Armenian and Greek victims of 1915 request acknowledgement and apologies for the atrocity within the framework of international law. Without these concessions it is inappropriate for Turkey to accede to the European Union.

We think that acknowledgement of the genocide should be a precondition for membership of the European Union.

Acknowledgement and apology is the only right step to be taken with reference to the genocide. Turkey will benefit greatly from critically scrutinizing its history because it will receive more international respect. Denial will only bring the opposite.

Acknowledgement of the genocide does not only imply social maturity, but also prevents future outbreaks of violence and persecution. Turkey’s reckoning with its past, a growth of respect for human rights and an increase of democratization will prove to be a great asset for the entire world.

Denial is to be killed twice

Finally I would like to point out the following. The Assyrian genocide is not known globally. An unknown and denied genocide inflicts great emotional pain on us, children of a people victimized by genocide. Many of our contemporary society’s problems can be deduced from the genocide. Even though the democratic world has failed to prevent the genocide committed against our people, it has to cooperate to alleviate the problems we are facing today. As the first genocide of the twentieth century, the Assyrian genocide should be more prominently present in universities.

Committed wherever and by whomever, genocide remains genocide. It survives the traces of time. The historical profession is not only an exercise in constructing the where and what of facts. It is also a means to cope with the past. Past genocides have to be known and condemned in order to prevent future genocides. And this is precisely why the Assyrian genocide should be known and considered. It is a big mistake to think that it lies in the past and should be forgotten. History is not about oblivion. It is about knowledge. It is about education. It is about the future.

Those that suggest we should forget about the genocide have difficulties understanding us. These people have no idea about the socio-economic, political and psychological effects of genocides. "Forget about us" is their advice. But is forgetting that easy? We Assyrians have lost two thirds of our population in 1915. We were uprooted from our motherland. The remnants of the genocide were cast into distant parts of the world. Today we are struggling with our sheer existence. As I said before, many contemporary problems are a product of the genocide. How can we forget about all this? My personal experience is that I saw my grandfather often crying when I was about 7 or 8 years old. I was a child and I couldn’t attach any meaning to my grandfather’s crying. I just knew he missed his 3 brothers. That’s all I really knew... I have just learnt of these details only a few months ago from a 97-year old woman whom I met in Germany. She told me that all of my grandfather’s brothers were killed in the genocide of 1915, and that he used to mourn about them.Since I found out about this a few months ago, I have often dreamt of my late grandfather, who passed away 30 years ago. They are telling us to forget about all this. How can I forget this? How can I forget my grandfather, my village, my homeland, my loved ones? All this is my personal story, and it is impossible for me to forget about them. Of course, the deceased can never be returned, how much we want. But Turkey owes us an apology. It must acknowledge the genocide. Acknowledgement will be very advantageous to Turkey. To augment its international respectability and to strengthen democracy. Denial, on the other hand, will only bring the opposite. The children of Assyria are waiting for what all children need, a sense of write and wrong. Thank you !

2004 - June 22
Den Haag (The Hague)

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sj007
#2
no so forgoten for me i have armenien friend one day we talk about the 2 major genocides cuz i wuz a german decent not at all related to any nazi though. we spent a lot of time talkin about the holocaust and the armenien one 2
 
Rick van Opbergen
#3
Yes, but what only few people know is that besides the approximately 1.5 million Armenians during the First World War and well into the '20s, another 1.5 million Turkish Christians - Assyrians and Greeks - were killed as well, and millions were forced to flee the country. I read a great book about the forgotten genocides within this genocide (the murder on these 1.5 million non-Armenian Christians) by Thea Halo, daughter of a Pontic Greek woman who survived the genocide (and also daughter of an Assyrian who left Turkey already before the great slaughter).
 
sj007
#4
u know that the armenien genocided is considered the first genocide of the century of genocides
 
Rick van Opbergen
#5
Yes, I'm aware of that. The 20th century has had too many genocides by the way - I once had this great site where they were all discussed, but I lost the URL ... The majority of countries still have not recognized the Armenian Genocide though. When France recognized the Genocide some years ago, Turkey was furious and some Turkish universities even banned French as a study ... I can imagine it's painful for those few survivors, and their offspring, to see Turkey denying this genocide, still after 90 years.
 
sj007
#6
i agree u know canada has a wierd position on it? i forget what it is again
 
Rick van Opbergen
#7
It seems Ontario and Quebec have recognized the Armenian Genocide.
 
Rick van Opbergen
#8
And I see Jean Chrétien has recognized the Genocide too, in the name of Canada. The Netherlands haven't recognized the Genocide so far.
 
sj007
#9
its that the parlement has but that canada as a country in whole hasnt fully
 
Rick van Opbergen
#10
You mean that people aren't aware of the existence of this genocide?
 
sj007
#11
sadly i think not the only reason i know is because of my friend otherwise i would of never known
 
Rick van Opbergen
#12
Yeah true. I learned about this genocide when I was doing an essay for History. I know that in our book for History there was just one line which said "1.5 million Armenians were killed by the Turks in 1915". That was all. I guess it happened too long ago, in a country too far away for people to bother or even learn about it.
 
sj007
#13
wel its true that we suffer from self certeredness "nobrilsme" as my french teacher putit
 
Rick van Opbergen
#14
"Nobrilsme"?
 
sj007
#15
belly buttonisme in french cuz the have an expression regarder son nombril means to only look aster ur self or to think that the world revolves around u
 
Rick van Opbergen
#16
Oh, "Bushism" ... yeah, that's true. It's Breaking News when the crownprincess of Belgium delivers a baby ... it's not Breaking News when 2,000 people die during a flood in a remote African country ...
 
sj007
#17
no i like cbc u guy are on over night program the first show at 1 am some times i cant sleep and i listen to it
 
Martin Le Acadien
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by Rick van Opbergen

Yes, I'm aware of that. The 20th century has had too many genocides by the way - I once had this great site where they were all discussed, but I lost the URL ... The majority of countries still have not recognized the Armenian Genocide though. When France recognized the Genocide some years ago, Turkey was furious and some Turkish universities even banned French as a study ... I can imagine it's painful for those few survivors, and their offspring, to see Turkey denying this genocide, still after 90 years.

Rick,
No country openlly admits its bloody history! Look at Canada and the US with the issues of Acadien Ethnic Cleansing and the Slavery issue in the southern Part of the US.

When I was a small child (6 yrs old) in 1964, I was taken to see a family friend who was 101 yrs old and had been born a slave in Kentucky. Mrs. Rose greeted my mother and they talked about "old" times, you see my mother was born in 1920 and Mrs. Rose had known the family all her life and my grandparents all their lives. Slavery did not end in Kentucky until June 19, 1865 with the passage of the 13th Amendment of the Constitution ending slavery in ALL States and Territories. --[url]

i had a neighbour which had been in the death camps of Nazi Germany and her tatoo was a constant remiender, lest we forget!

At sundown, Chanukah begins and so I remeber my neighbour.

Go to Grand Pre, Nova Scotia and a Federal Park reminds us of the disporia of the Acadiens.

Never let one nation or people goad over another!
 
Rick van Opbergen
#19
You are right Martin. No country will openly admit its bloody history, except when there is a big pressure from other countries, or organisations, or even individuals for that matter. I personally have the feeling that my own country, the Netherlands, has taken too little responsibility when it comes to our share in the slave trade, and the killing of millions of Indonesians during the colonial era. This is something we should all keep "fighting" for.
 
ElPolaco
#20
We seem to be selective about what genocides we remember and which ones we don't. Of course, our various means of socialization in our society has much to do with that. One really has to be interested and aware to find information on his own. The Nazi holacaust was so enormous, it's hard for anyone to be selective about it. Even though, there are holocaust deniers who spend their entire lives researching and writing books and articles trying to disprove it ( i.e. check out the websites for the Barnes Review and Institute for Historical Review). Sometimes genocide happens on both sides as in the Balkans today and, it should be remembered that the Kurds assisted the Turks in the Armenian genocide.
Also, should the Soviet famine of the 1930s be designated as a "Ukrainian genocide", how about the native peoples of the Western Hemisphere, the Congo under king Leopold? Anyway, we definitely have our work cut out for us in preventing this kind of stuff from continuing.
 
Reverend Blair
#21
Quote:

Also, should the Soviet famine of the 1930s be designated as a "Ukrainian genocide",

It certainly is already designated as that among many Ukrainians, Polaco.

Part of the problem with the word genocide is that it was invented by a Jew who survived the holocaust because we didn't really have a name for it. As a made-up word it does not have a single definition. In it's purest sense it means attempting to wipe out an entire people based on their religion or ethnicity, but we also apply to massive attacks based on religion or ethnicity that will not wipe out an entire people. There are also the vagaries of religion and ethnicity.

Until we come up with clear definitions whether a genocide was attempted and/or committed is always going to end up being interpreted by those in power.
 
Rick van Opbergen
#22
The genocides which have been labelled genocides until now, have been cases in which a defined group was subject to physical or mental attacks (or both) merely based on their definition, meaning: Jews were killed during the Holocaust because they were Jews; Roma were killed during the Holocaust because they were Roma; Armenians were killed during the Armenian Genocide because they were Armenians; etc. etc.
 
ElPolaco
#23
I guess too, because of the Latin root "gen" in the term, meaning something like "a people" as opposed to "populus" (?) meaning "people", it would refer to a racial/ethnic group and not a political or religious group. Therefore eventhough communists and social democrats were persecuted by the nazis, they never practiced genocide against them. Maybe more of a grey area would be William Patterson's "We Charge Genocide" petition presented to the UN in 1951 which claimed the US practiced genocide against american Blacks because of lynching and forms of descrimination more indirectly leading to death.
 
Reverend Blair
#24
Yes, but how many does it take to be a genocide? Killing a few is a hate crime, killing several is a massacre, how many is a genocide? Does it have to be direct killing or, as in the case of the Ukraine, does starving count? How about purposely blocking foreign aid? How about infecting blankets with smallpox?

Because the definition is so vague we get countries interpreting the meaning to their political advantage, often for reasons that have nothing to do with the genocide in question.
 
aupook
#25
I am aware of the existence of this genocide. And it is one of the great unsung travesties of the 20th century. One caution, revenge is a bitter cup.
 
youwho
#26
Canada has not official recognized any genocide occuring within Canada, except for the Beothuks, and they blame that on the Micmacs.
 
Reverend Blair
#27
Very true, YouWho. The extent of the genocides of American natives, from the arctic to the tip of South America, is really only coming to light now. Much of it was never recorded. A lot of it happened through disease and starvation before the Europeans even reached the areas where they had caused the death and destruction.
 
Giraldi_Theirrey
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by youwho

Canada has not official recognized any genocide occuring within Canada, except for the Beothuks, and they blame that on the Micmacs.

Your post has made me feel so warm inside. Thank you.
 
aupook
#29
Your reply was weak, are we talking about genocide or your evening meal?
 
Giraldi_Theirrey
#30
Is Mustafa Kemal Ataturk a hero or war criminal?? He was in charge of Turkey when the genocide occured. Online sources state that genocides where carried out under the orders of Ataturk. Some Turks on line have called it a complete lie and that Ataturk did not order genocide.

I like to see your stand on this folks. I know a lot of Turkish people just worship Ataturk almost as a God but, I don't know if they know the dark side of this guy?? I heard Ataturk used to be a brutal dictator before becoming a republican.

So he just a Hero or
is he a Hero AND a war criminal??
 

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