Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell want a different kind of democracy from classic parliamentary democracy.
They want street politics and demonstrations to lead to the overthrow of the economic order and the creation of a different kind of democracy in which workers take over the means of production, stealing private property and running the economy via a system of, er, cooperatives or soviets.
An exaggeration? Really, wake up. Don’t be fooled by the Labour manifesto. That was a staging post....
EVOLUTION OF THE REVOLUTION Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell want street politics to lead to the overthrow of the economic order, says author Iain Martin
Labour hard left are trying to create a different kind of democracy in which workers take over the means of production
Comment
By Iain Martin
30th June 2017
The Sun
LABOUR Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer John McDonnell’s remark at the Glastonbury Festival about those who died at Grenfell having been murdered was disgusting.
Murder is premeditated killing and this was not that.
Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn wants a socialist economic revolution
But the outrage overshadowed a more important revelation. McDonnell also said that democracy is not working. What does that mean?
Jeremy Corbyn and McDonnell want a different kind of democracy from classic parliamentary democracy.
They want street politics and demonstrations to lead to the overthrow of the economic order and the creation of a different kind of democracy in which workers take over the means of production, stealing private property and running the economy via a system of, er, cooperatives or soviets.
An exaggeration? Really, wake up. Don’t be fooled by the Labour manifesto. That was a staging post.
John McDonnell – with Corbyn on stage at the Labour Party Conference – has come under fire for his comments at Glastonbury Festival about the Grenfell victims
They are hardcore Bennites. Tony Benn — one of Britain’s nicest and most erudite loonies of the last 50 years — nearly wrecked the Labour Party in the early 1980s.
In these strange times, it is frightening that a number of people are prepared to give this Corbyn thing a go. What could possibly go wrong?
A lot would go wrong in a socialist economic revolution, as history shows.
I’m not alone in thinking Corbyn is rather naive and idealistic, thinking presumably that this process of transforming the economy to an anti-market system would be rather nice, joyful and peaceful. And there you get to the heart of why this stuff always leads to coercion, control and terror.
Several things happen when it is tried, after the initial shock that leads to capital flight and panic. There are case studies from Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, East Germany, China and quite a few more.
The socialist economic revolution begins, but not everyone agrees that the economic revolution is a good idea.
They like their property and even if it is not stolen or taxed heavily in the first wave, they fear it will be next. Or they want to own property in the future or they simply have a job they like and want order.
They make their voices heard against the uprising. St Jeremy finds this baffling, because this joyful revolution is in the best interests of everyone. Why, he asks, can’t they see this?
Corbyn and the hard left want a different political system to parliamentary democracy
See, say the hardliners, the ones who know their Russian Revolution, you have to be tough to be kind. People sometimes don’t know what’s in their own best interests.
Then it really starts to go wrong for the economy as basic mechanisms such as supply chains break down.
The soviets or workers’ collectives can’t agree on how much to produce, when, or at what price. Mouthy twits strut about making speeches and ordering strikes. There is chaos. Who will sort this out?
This is a key moment. If the leaders do not take control and issue some orders the revolution may fail or be overturned by angry citizens.
A system must be established to transmit the orders from the leadership and ensure they are obeyed. Get tough, say the hardliners, even if it is a temporary measure on the route to control-free rule by the workers.
And, we are workers too, they say. It’s just that some workers are a bit more equal than the others who need to be told what to do, comrade.
This stage may or not be popular. Some people will like someone taking charge and put up with anything if there is, for now, bread in the shops. Other brave citizens will speak up.
Now, you see, say the hardliners to the leader, there are the wreckers, the enemies of the revolution.
Jeremy Corbyn joins protesters in march through the streets of London
Time to get even tougher. Crack down on the naysayers. And on it goes, to penury, misery and disaster.
Far-fetched? Not really.
That is where a Bennite economic revolution by “the workers”, directed by far-left thugs, often educated at expensive schools, leads.
Incredibly, the Conservatives during their calamitous election campaign started borrowing Corbyn’s rhetoric, talking about “the workers”. It is an appalling term at odds with both one nation Toryism and economic liberalism, in that it accepts the primacy of class divisions and the socialist analysis.
Socialism always was a terrible idea.
It has failed time and again precisely because it rejects the market mechanism, which has driven human improvement in food, supermarkets, drug research, air travel, cars, clothing, music, technology, housing and communication. To say nothing of the dramatic falls in poverty in developing countries that adopt market systems.
Corbyn and McDonnell want to eliminate all this in Britain and if you doubt it you are being naive. They want to eliminate profit and retro-fit human beings so they accord with their ideological vision based on class hatred and the journey towards socialism.
But as Adam Smith demonstrated, pursuit of economic self-interest under the law and with respect for private property is healthy and vital.
Companies pay wages and corporation taxes. Profit creates the money for investment, expansion and consumption. Profit is not a dirty word.
It is incredible considering the calamitous history of socialism that this case needs to be made again and won anew, but there you are.
Iain Martin is an author and columnist. For a longer version of this article go to www.reaction.life
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/39161...-lead-to-the-overthrow-of-the-economic-order/
They want street politics and demonstrations to lead to the overthrow of the economic order and the creation of a different kind of democracy in which workers take over the means of production, stealing private property and running the economy via a system of, er, cooperatives or soviets.
An exaggeration? Really, wake up. Don’t be fooled by the Labour manifesto. That was a staging post....
EVOLUTION OF THE REVOLUTION Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell want street politics to lead to the overthrow of the economic order, says author Iain Martin
Labour hard left are trying to create a different kind of democracy in which workers take over the means of production
Comment
By Iain Martin
30th June 2017
The Sun
LABOUR Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer John McDonnell’s remark at the Glastonbury Festival about those who died at Grenfell having been murdered was disgusting.
Murder is premeditated killing and this was not that.
Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn wants a socialist economic revolution
But the outrage overshadowed a more important revelation. McDonnell also said that democracy is not working. What does that mean?
Jeremy Corbyn and McDonnell want a different kind of democracy from classic parliamentary democracy.
An exaggeration? Really, wake up. Don’t be fooled by the Labour manifesto. That was a staging post.
John McDonnell – with Corbyn on stage at the Labour Party Conference – has come under fire for his comments at Glastonbury Festival about the Grenfell victims
They are hardcore Bennites. Tony Benn — one of Britain’s nicest and most erudite loonies of the last 50 years — nearly wrecked the Labour Party in the early 1980s.
In these strange times, it is frightening that a number of people are prepared to give this Corbyn thing a go. What could possibly go wrong?
A lot would go wrong in a socialist economic revolution, as history shows.
I’m not alone in thinking Corbyn is rather naive and idealistic, thinking presumably that this process of transforming the economy to an anti-market system would be rather nice, joyful and peaceful. And there you get to the heart of why this stuff always leads to coercion, control and terror.
Several things happen when it is tried, after the initial shock that leads to capital flight and panic. There are case studies from Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, East Germany, China and quite a few more.
The socialist economic revolution begins, but not everyone agrees that the economic revolution is a good idea.
They like their property and even if it is not stolen or taxed heavily in the first wave, they fear it will be next. Or they want to own property in the future or they simply have a job they like and want order.
They make their voices heard against the uprising. St Jeremy finds this baffling, because this joyful revolution is in the best interests of everyone. Why, he asks, can’t they see this?
Corbyn and the hard left want a different political system to parliamentary democracy
See, say the hardliners, the ones who know their Russian Revolution, you have to be tough to be kind. People sometimes don’t know what’s in their own best interests.
Then it really starts to go wrong for the economy as basic mechanisms such as supply chains break down.
The soviets or workers’ collectives can’t agree on how much to produce, when, or at what price. Mouthy twits strut about making speeches and ordering strikes. There is chaos. Who will sort this out?
This is a key moment. If the leaders do not take control and issue some orders the revolution may fail or be overturned by angry citizens.
A system must be established to transmit the orders from the leadership and ensure they are obeyed. Get tough, say the hardliners, even if it is a temporary measure on the route to control-free rule by the workers.
And, we are workers too, they say. It’s just that some workers are a bit more equal than the others who need to be told what to do, comrade.
This stage may or not be popular. Some people will like someone taking charge and put up with anything if there is, for now, bread in the shops. Other brave citizens will speak up.
Now, you see, say the hardliners to the leader, there are the wreckers, the enemies of the revolution.
Jeremy Corbyn joins protesters in march through the streets of London
Time to get even tougher. Crack down on the naysayers. And on it goes, to penury, misery and disaster.
Far-fetched? Not really.
That is where a Bennite economic revolution by “the workers”, directed by far-left thugs, often educated at expensive schools, leads.
Incredibly, the Conservatives during their calamitous election campaign started borrowing Corbyn’s rhetoric, talking about “the workers”. It is an appalling term at odds with both one nation Toryism and economic liberalism, in that it accepts the primacy of class divisions and the socialist analysis.
Socialism always was a terrible idea.
It has failed time and again precisely because it rejects the market mechanism, which has driven human improvement in food, supermarkets, drug research, air travel, cars, clothing, music, technology, housing and communication. To say nothing of the dramatic falls in poverty in developing countries that adopt market systems.
Corbyn and McDonnell want to eliminate all this in Britain and if you doubt it you are being naive. They want to eliminate profit and retro-fit human beings so they accord with their ideological vision based on class hatred and the journey towards socialism.
But as Adam Smith demonstrated, pursuit of economic self-interest under the law and with respect for private property is healthy and vital.
Companies pay wages and corporation taxes. Profit creates the money for investment, expansion and consumption. Profit is not a dirty word.
It is incredible considering the calamitous history of socialism that this case needs to be made again and won anew, but there you are.
Iain Martin is an author and columnist. For a longer version of this article go to www.reaction.life
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/39161...-lead-to-the-overthrow-of-the-economic-order/
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