China attacks Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer for opposing bilateral free trade

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Those protectionist leftards.


China attacks Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer for opposing bilateral free trade

Beijing’s ruling Communist Party has used one of its main newspapers to deliver an angry salvo at Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer, calling him “arrogant and biased” for opposing a trade deal between China and Canada.

The Official Opposition Leader announced on Sunday that his party would oppose Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s effort to negotiate a free-trade accord with the world’s second-biggest economy, citing concerns about human rights, labour standards and the fact the Chinese economy is dominated by state-owned companies. Canadian and U.S. intelligence agencies have warned these enterprises act in the interests of China’s Communist Party.

“Giving China preferential access to the Canadian market would threaten the jobs of workers and businesses in this country,” Mr. Scheer said.

On Monday, the Chinese newspaper Global Times, a stridently nationalist media outlet owned by the Communist Party, published an article saying Mr. Scheer is demonstrating “faulty logic and blindness” to the benefits of a bilateral trade pact.

“The opposition leader’s statement shows nothing but his arrogant and biased attitude toward China,” according to the article written by Global Times journalist Wang Jiamei. “Scheer’s logic is beguiling but wrong.”

The columnist said it was unfair of Mr. Scheer to compare Canadian labour, environmental and human rights standards to China, which he said remains a developing country.

“If Canada requires a potential FTA [free-trade-agreement] partner country to have the same ideology and labour standards as itself, then it should probably only look at Western countries,” he said. “Few developing countries could meet Mr. Scheer’s standards for a level playing field.”

Citing two corporate lobby groups in Canada, Mr. Wang pointed to the increase in business Australia and New Zealand enjoyed after they concluded free-trade deals with China. Canada’s economy would similarly prosper if a trade deal was negotiated, he predicted.

“A China-Canada free-trade agreement would increase Canada’s GDP by 7.8 billion Canadian dollars, … boost its exports by 7.7 billion Canadian dollars and add 25,000 jobs by 2030, according to a 2016 white paper released by the Canada-China Business Council and the Canadian Council of Chief Executives,” he wrote.

Jack Jia, publisher of Chinese News in Toronto, said he believes the Global Times article is aimed in part at ethnic Chinese in Canada.

“They want to tell Chinese Canadians, ‘We don’t like this guy. Don’t get along with this guy,’” Mr. Jia said.

Conservative Foreign Affairs critic Peter Kent said Mr. Scheer is merely alerting Canadians to what the Official Opposition sees as the potential pitfalls of negotiating free trade with China, from turning a blind eye to Chinese acquisition of sensitive military technology to ignoring human rights abuses.

“The Chinese government has given every impression that it is successfully bullying the Liberals into getting what they want and the Liberals seem to be accepting it,” the MP said.

He noted the Liberals have muted their criticism of China’s human rights record ever since Beijing’s new envoy to Canada, Lu Shaye, warned that his country would not allow the issue to be part of any free-trade talks.

David Mulroney, a former Canadian ambassador to China, said the Global Times has a mandate to attack overseas critics.

“This is par for the course for the Global Times, which is given fairly free rein to go after foreign governments and foreign officials who are seen to be anti-China,” Mr. Mulroney said in an interview.

“China is much more comfortable attacking Canadian Conservatives, whom it considers pretty much irrevocably unfriendly than Liberals, who are seen as old friends.”

Beijing has been advancing the position for some time that it is profitable for Western countries like Canada to trade with China. Mr. Mulroney said Canadians should not lose sight of what is going on inside the country.

“The biggest story out of China today is that Nobel Prize winner Liu Xiaobo appears to be dying of cancer. He has been released from official confinement but will almost certainly die a prisoner of the state, something that last happened to a Nobel laureate in Nazi Germany in the 1930s,” Mr. Mulroney said. “It’s getting hard to normalize relations with an increasingly abnormal China.”

The Liberal government is in exploratory talks with Beijing over whether the two sides can negotiate a broad trade deal.

Mr. Scheer is accusing the Liberal government of wanting to “appease” China, pointing to controversial Chinese investments – including Hytera Communications Corp.’s acquisition of Vancouver satellite-maker Norsat International Inc. He said the Trudeau cabinet’s approval of the deal – without a comprehensive national security review – is an example of a troubling pattern in which Ottawa appears to be overly eager to win Beijing’s favour.

“What I’m worried about is that these are steps that the Liberals are doing to appease the Chinese government before free-trade negotiations even start,” he told CTV’s Question Period in an interview that aired last Sunday.

“To put Canadian manufacturers and workers at a disadvantage to Chinese competition that don’t have to play by the same playing rules, that’s not in Canada’s best interests,” he said.

The U.S. State Department on Tuesday placed China on its global list of the worst offenders in human trafficking and forced labour.

A report from the State Department said China convicted fewer sex and labour traffickers in the 12 months ended on March 31 than in the previous year, forcibly repatriated North Koreans without screening them for indicators of trafficking, and handled most forced labour cases as administrative issues rather than criminal prosecutions.

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My take of it:

We should unilaterally open our borders to China, but only to those Canadian businesses that the Chinese regime could not corrupt easily. For example, Canada could allow any Canadian sole trader or worker cooperative that does not produce, buy, or sell weapons (other than sports equipment) to import from China tariff-free.

That said, the government could refuse to buy any product that is made in Chinese for any security concern, meaning that Chinese telecoms would be limited to the private sector. And even then, since they'd have to either convert themselves into a sole trader or worker cooperative or do business with a Canadian sole trader or worker cooperative, it would be extremely difficult for these businesses to engage in espionage or other partisan operations in Canada.
 

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Right, our natural resources, mined, or cut, or farmed, or caught by their workers here, and shipped over there for use in manufacturing, and then sold to other countries where the peeps have jobs.

Perfect for a colonial welfare state
 

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Right, our natural resources, mined, or cut, or farmed, or caught by their workers here, and shipped over there for use in manufacturing, and then sold to other countries where the peeps have jobs.

Perfect for a colonial welfare state

Canada should impose a tax of 1/3 on the net profits of any resource-extraction or animal-husbandry business.

While this might hurt our raw-materials industry, it would benefit higher-end industries. Would it hurt the one more or benefit the other more, we can certainly discuss. I believe that it would benefit the latter more than it would hurt the former, at least in the long run.

Ideally, we would be net importers of raw materials. Short of that, let's at least reduce our exports.
 

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The Liberal party unanimously voted against a motion to do something about the increasing fentanyl crisis in Canada. Both the Conservatives and Dippers voted for it.
Take a wild guess where the bulk of that fentanyl is coming from.
F*ck Trudeau and China and their bullshit.
 

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The Liberal party unanimously voted against a motion to do something about the increasing fentanyl crisis in Canada. Both the Conservatives and Dippers voted for it.
Take a wild guess where the bulk of that fentanyl is coming from.
F*ck Trudeau and China and their bullshit.

don't confuse state and non-state actors. for example, the US would be stupid to break ties with Canada because some Canadians have tried to export marijuana to the US. Those importing fentanyl to Canada are probably non-state actors, members of Chinese criminal organizations, nothing to do with the Chinese regime.

That said, we do need to worry about the Chinese regime too, of course, but we shouldn't punish the Chinese for their government's actions.
 

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don't confuse state and non-state actors. for example, the US would be stupid to break ties with Canada because some Canadians have tried to export marijuana to the US. Those importing fentanyl to Canada are probably non-state actors, members of Chinese criminal organizations, nothing to do with the Chinese regime.
It's a collusion. Traffickers are turning to a Chinese pharmaceutical-manufacturing giant to produce deadly, black-market versions of fentanyl. And since all Chinese companies are state owned/state run, the Chinese govt is complicit in this. That same company is also manufacturing fentanyl analogues, one of the best known being China White.
 

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Yes, yes. We know you admire dictators, as long as they're on the leftard side of the spectrum.
But it's good to know you find the deaths in Canada from Chinese fentanyl so amusing.

Yes, it's collusion lol
Yeah, those stupid RCMP wouldn't know shit. They should confab with you before making any big announcements about drugs since you obviously know more about it than they do. Seriously, you're wasting your life being a molly-popping DJ when you could be lending your expertise in the field of drugs to police agencies the world over.
 

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We need more Chinese influence in our country as they are at least a democratic state, unlike the US.
 

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Does the Communist opposition agree with the ruling Communist Party?

Citing two corporate lobby groups in Canada, Mr. Wang pointed to the increase in business Australia and New Zealand enjoyed after they concluded free-trade deals with China. Canada’s economy would similarly prosper if a trade deal was negotiated, he predicted.

Australia has stood at the forefront of Western countries in building economic links with China. In the decade leading to 2015, only the United States received more Chinese investment; Australia's tally nearly doubled that of Canada over that period. China is Australia's largest trading partner and the destination for a third of its exports.

But as Canada under Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has sought warmer ties with China, approving a series of controversial investments and beginning exploratory talks on a free-trade agreement, Australia and others have begun to ask hard questions about the cost of doing business with Beijing.

"We've reached the point now where there is almost a consensus forming among the political class; that Australia has to stand up to China," said Rory Medcalf, a former diplomat and intelligence analyst who now heads the National Security College at Australian National University. Fighting back will require strong measures, some in Australia now say.

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It's a collusion. Traffickers are turning to a Chinese pharmaceutical-manufacturing giant to produce deadly, black-market versions of fentanyl. And since all Chinese companies are state owned/state run, the Chinese govt is complicit in this. That same company is also manufacturing fentanyl analogues, one of the best known being China White.

That needs to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Where's the proof?

We need more Chinese influence in our country as they are at least a democratic state, unlike the US.

Have you ever lived in China?

I would approach the Chinese regime with caution myself. All I'm saying is we need to make a distinction between state and non-state actors otherwise we only make matters worse. If Chinese perceive Canadian actions as targeting the Chinese people rather than the regime, then we force even those who might oppose the regime to side with it in self interest.

The same principle applies to how we treat Iranians, North Koreans, etc. too by the way. That's why Trump is way out to lunch in his attempt to demonize ordinary Middle-Easterners for example even though I don't trust the Iranian regime either.