The people have spoken and the bad losers in UK and US ignore them at their peril

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If the system and the Establishment don’t get the ‘right’ answer, the answer they want, the answer which serves them best, they will ignore it, overturn it, and discover a rule to invalidate it.

With Brexit, money of a City millionaire funded a legal case in the High Court for three men in fancy dress to tut tut tut at us over their spectacles and undo everything we fought for.

Now money for a recount is being channelled from Establishment sources to subvert the original outcome of the Presidential election...

The people have spoken and the bad losers in Britain and America - who think they know better - ignore them at their peril. (And if that sounds like a threat - it is!)




By Katie Hopkins for MailOnline
26 November 2016

If you live in London, New York or LA, this article will mean nothing to you.

Just like an anniversary card delivered late, a Finnish film without subtitles or the ultrasonic squeal of a baby Tarsier monkey – you just won’t feel it.

But take it from me, outside the bubble in which you live there is a crackling in the air. A tension.


Sixty million people voted for Trump because they believe it is the right thing for America

That angry feeling people get when they try to speak to their boss and see in his eyes that he is only pretending to listen, that he is never going to change because he thinks he knows best.

And now they are back at their desk fuming.

We are the 17.4million people who voted for Brexit. Sitting here fuming at our ‘boss’. Seventeen point four million good people, all sick of not being heard.

All feeling compelled to raise our voice until we cannot be ignored; to take a pee in the water cooler; to storm out and march about the foyer naked with ‘Why don’t you listen, you arrogant bastards?’ tattooed on our backside.

In the United States, too, more meetings with a boss who doesn’t listen. And here the figure is sixty million. Sixty million people who voted for Trump because they believe it is the right thing for America.

Sixty million people living outside the metropolitan bubble, the confluence of apathetic power, waiting to be told their voice isn’t worth listening to, either.


Despondent supporters of Clinton at an election night party in New York on November 8

Funds are being raised for a recount in the key states of Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, where the losing team hopes to reverse the outcome, giving Clinton the win. $3.8million was banked in just 4 hours.

This team is fronted by the walking irrelevance, Green Party candidate Jill Stein. She says: ‘We are not doing this because we expect the result to be overturned. We are doing this because the American people deserve to have confidence in the voting system.’

First off, Jill, know this: the people are not stupid. They don’t believe a word you have been paid to say. The Establishment asked the people a question and didn’t like the answer it got. Apparently Trump was the wrong answer.

Second up, the American people did have confidence in the voting system. That’s why over 100 million of them bothered to stand in line to have their voice heard.

The same reason 72.2 per cent of the UK voting population turned out for the Brexit vote. Because people believed in the system.

But as Americans will discover to their peril, and Brits are already learning, the system is a lie.


Walking irrelevance: Green Party candidate Jill Stein is helping to raise funds for a recount in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, where the losing team hopes to reverse the outcome

If the system and the Establishment don’t get the ‘right’ answer, the answer they want, the answer which serves them best, they will ignore it, overturn it, and discover a rule to invalidate it.

The money of a City millionaire funded a legal case in the High Court for three men in fancy dress to tut tut tut at us over their spectacles and undo everything we fought for.

Now money for a recount is being channelled from Establishment sources to subvert the original outcome of the Presidential election.

And Project Fear has now returned via the back door with a new Front Man, Hammond. Like Osborne’s puppet-on-a-string, he is predicting Armageddon over Brexit. The Office of Budget Responsibility is as pessimistic as a cancer victim at the funeral of a fellow patient.

Meanwhile the media are indulging themselves in the fate of Jo Cox’s killer because Vote Leave ‘clearly’ had a hand in her death too.

David Aaronovitch noted in his Times column: ‘The direction of the Brexit campaign … had emboldened extremism’. He goes on to say: 'While they themselves were in no way permissive of the act, might they in some way have been permissive of the motive? Or even of the mood?'


Supporters of the Stronger In campaign react after hearing the EU referendum results in June

I’d suggest Jo Cox’s killer, Thomas Mair, was a weird old loner with mental issues and the media have maxed out on coverage of the trial of her killer because it suits their agenda.

Tony Blair, the most hated politician in history, has waltzed back into the frame saying, ‘If you offer the people soft Brexit, they may realise there is no point leaving at all,’ — as if we are thick, or children, or he had forgotten his microphone was on and we could actually hear him be that patronising.

To explain away Trump’s election, the media and Establishment are fixated on ‘post-truth politics’ — the idea that people are so stupid they believed fake news stories and were therefore tricked into voting for a white supremacist.

They still don’t get it, do they? People voted for Trump because of this type of narrative. Because of the condescension. Because they are sick of being treated as the little people. Because they wanted a man who had a real life and a job. Because they are sick of being lied to by The Establishment.

I am listening to the voices outside of London. Watching the people in the towns and countryside across the country. The people I live amongst. The people who live in that other, ignored place called ‘the rest of the UK’.


We are the 17.4million people who voted for Brexit. Sitting here fuming at our ‘boss’. Seventeen point four million good people, all sick of not being heard

And you know what? We have done with being angry. That feeling of wanting to p*** in the water cooler and protest in the foyer has evolved.

Something darker is now lurking in our hearts. It’s not despondency. Despondency is safe — it’s giving up, it’s sitting unresponsive in the corner, an old person in a home.

This is far more sinister. This is a pressure cooker whose lid is being screwed tighter while the temperature rises. This is an angry animal, forced into a cage and tormented, determined to find itself free.

Now we are taxpayers paying for a system that doesn’t give us a say, our options held ransom by the government — yet for every pound we put into the public purse, no promised exchange takes place.

These jokers take a thief’s share of our salary, of the money we spend, of the money we save, of the debt we accrue and the deaths we endure. And in return we are told our voices don’t matter. Don’t count.


I’d suggest Jo Cox’s killer, Thomas Mair, was a weird old loner with mental issues and the media have maxed out on coverage of the trial of her killer because it suits their agenda

We watch NHS nurses struggle to find time to give our mother a drink in hospital; we sell her home to pay for nursing care; and when she dies HMRC comes calling to demand death duties and inheritance taxes while we are still grieving.

And we agree to be treated like this by the system for what? To discover what? That we didn’t even earn the right to vote?

We are left with nothing.

As I sweat softly in the tension surrounding me in the pressure cooker of the UK, I look to America and hope and pray they do not allow a recount to present a new choice for President.

Seventeen point four million people in the UK. Sixty million people in the USA. More acutely aware than at any time in our lives that money trumps democracy. And democracy might well be a lie.

That something we believed in our whole lives, along with everything we used to know, no longer makes any sense.

They say people with nothing to lose are the most dangerous of all. I think the Establishment both here and in the United States may be about to learn the biggest threat to peace and order in their respective countries will be entirely of their own making.

 
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Well, Trump said all along that it was a rigged election. Nobody was listening.

And I said the EU referendum would be rigged to make it look like Remoan would win.

Farage ‘couldn’t be happier’ Blair’s trying to BLOCK BREXIT as it will ‘repel people’

NIGEL FARAGE has ripped into Tony Blair’s shameless claim Brexit can be stopped, as the anti-EU politician declared the former prime minister’s farcical crusade would make him more unpopular than ever with the British people.

By Lizzie Stromme
Sat, Nov 26, 2016
The Daily Express


Barely able to contain his joy over the former Labour’s leaders statement, Mr Farage beamed “I couldn’t be happier” with Mr Blair’s decision to launch a barmy attack on the Leave camp.

Brexit campaigners were up in arms on Thursday after the former PM told The New Statesman that voters might still yet change their minds on quitting the European Union.

He said: “It can be stopped if the British people decide that, having seen what it means, the pain-gain cost-benefit analysis doesn’t stack up.”

Mr Blair suggested there are “two ways” that Leave voters could change their minds, adding: “I’m not saying it will [be stopped], by the way, but it could. I’m just saying: until you see what it means, how do you know?”


Mr Farage ripped into Tony Blair’s shameless claim Brexit can be stopped

However, Mr Farage dismissed the claims as he added the former Labour Party politician was fuelling the British public’s hatred for him by uttering such claims.

Speaking to CNN, the Brexit-architect said: “I couldn’t be happier!

“He is so unpopular in Britain. The more he says that the more people will be absolutely repelled by it and everything he stands for.”

Nigel Farage, who has lashed out against Theresa May for not taking advantage of his special relationship with President-elect Donald Trump, also slammed claims a second referendum would result in a Remain vote.

He said: “No. It would be much bigger, much bigger, than before.”

And once again putting the accusations that he hates Europe to bed, the anti-establishment politician added it was about restoring British sovereignty.

Mr Farage said: “I’m not isolationist. Far from it. I love Europe.

“I want a Europe of sovereign nation states that trade together and cooperate together. What I don’t want are my laws being made by unelected bureaucrats based in Brussels.


The former PM said voters might still yet change their minds on quitting the EU

“Brexit was a vote for democracy; it was a vote for self-determination; it was a vote unashamedly for national pride; and it was a vote for us to be free.”

Political upheaval was sparked last week after it was claimed Mr Blair was planning a shock return to the frontline after having been in the political wilderness since quitting Downing Street almost a decade ago.

However, his spokeswoman had dismissed the claims and in the interview with The New Statesman the former Labour leader admitted there would be “too much hostility” to a potential return to British political life.

Despite confessing he is unable to return to the frontbench because he is too unpopular, Mr Blair revealed his plans to “build a platform” and use his experience in order to push back against what he terms “popular movements across the Western world”, such as Brexit and the election of Donald Trump.

Tony Blair's Brexit blocking cheered by Nigel Farage as it will 'repel' people | Politics | News | Daily Express
 

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Well, Trump said all along that it was a rigged election. Nobody was listening.
The best way to fix that is to revamp the voting to the IRS site and start doing referendums for some of the next 4 years (or all) and by the time the next election is held the voting system will be straightened out where it is accurate and comes at almost no extra expense to the voters. All the voting booths would be closed and you do a secure vote from your phone or another such device. That should eliminate the dead and the Federal prisoners and others that vote more than once.

Perhaps they listen but when no fix comes to mind they accept it as something that cannot be fixed so why worry about it. If a lie can survive a week then it is moved to the true column if at all possible. The real problem is you can't govern 10B people using the same system that evolved when there were 10-100M people (Medieval times/dark ages) Today robots are the surfs and everyone one alive is Royalty with a big cheque for doing nothing of any real value. Snowboard instructors would be in high demand if video training wasn't enough.