Trump America and Brexit Britain can restore Nato and the West

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Why a Trump-led America working with Brexit Britain is just what we need....

Together a Trump-led US and Brexit Britain can restore Nato and the West




John Bolton, Former US ambassador to the UN
28 September 2016
The Telegraph

Three months after the Brexit vote, it’s time for the UK’s leaders to “get this country moving again,” as JFK once exhorted Americans. Or “make Britain great again,” per Donald Trump, if you prefer.

Brexit was undeniably a revolution in human affairs, opening up vistas for Britain once buried in European Union bureaucracy. Both economically and politically, London has a unique opportunity to rewrite the international conventional wisdom.

Don’t follow the crowd. Let the crowd follow you. Credit: PA/PA

Margaret Thatcher foresaw exactly what Britain needs today: “Don’t follow the crowd. Let the crowd follow you.” On Britain’s relationship with the EU, for example, commentators dissecting the “Norway model” or the “Swiss model” are missing the point. Create a British model suited to Britain’s needs, and press ahead.

Negotiations with Brussels’ bitter-enders will be difficult; no one who has ever dealt with the EU could imagine anything else. But do not approach the EU true believers as supplicants. Their businesses and consumers want access to UK markets, products and services just as their British counterparts want the reverse.

Within the EU and within individual European governments, particularly Germany, Britain’s negotiators should seek allies to outflank recalcitrant politicians, many of whom are already severely stressed because of mistakes on other fronts, notably the terrorist attacks and refugee floods sweeping the continent. Divide and conquer has long been a winning strategy, and can be again in the exit negotiations.

Germany has suffered from terror attacks which have dented its leader's standing Credit: KARL-JOSEF HILDENBRAND/AFP/Getty Images/KARL-JOSEF HILDENBRAND/AFP/Getty Images

On those security issues, Brexit affords the UK the opportunity to be an independent world power once again. No longer drowning in the molasses of EU decision-making, London can act as an equal partner with Washington regarding threats to the West globally.

True, there are those in America, as well as Britain, who have long held that it is in America’s interest to have Britain inside the EU arguing the US case. On this theory, the UK’s role is to be the US barrister before the high court of Germany and France.

This has always been nonsense. It hasn’t worked for the United States, but more to the point here, neither has it worked for Britain. You lose nothing by abandoning the role. The notion that Britain must have “a seat at the table” in the EU appeals primarily to those whose sole objective is having a seat at the table. (This means you, Whitehall mandarins.) Actually getting things done requires rising from a table and doing it, precisely what Brexit now allows.

EU politico-military decision-making invariably produces a smoothie – appetising perhaps, but hardly durable. Recent French and German efforts to move (yet again) toward more robust EU military capabilities may achieve rhetorical success, but little else. From the St Malo declaration forward, the EU collectively has been long on defence talk and short on action. A fully independent UK can now be more effective with Nato’s central and eastern European members by not having to temper its security posture to suit Berlin and Paris. For example, Britain’s view of resurgent Russian militarism within the former Soviet Union has consistently been more clear-eyed than many of its continental partners.

Now, London will once more have its own voice to say so.

Whether, after the US presidential election on November 8, America will again have the political leadership it needs to complement renewed British assertiveness is presently unknowable.

The election is tightening, however, as Trump’s support solidifies and as Clinton’s manifest inadequacies become more evident. But whatever happens in November, Britain must still make her own way.

History’s opportunities do not last forever. The Brexit decision should not be squandered through indecisiveness and inaction. If Britain proceeds confidently, the ripples of Brexit in Europe and beyond will force reforms that could remake the European political landscape to the advantage of both the UK and its soon-to-be-former EU partners. The same is true for Nato, which needs to become more agile and less bureaucratic.

Britain’s actions over the next few months will be more important for itself and the wider West than anything London has done since 1945


Together a Trump-led US and Brexit Britain can restore Nato and the West*

 
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Blackleaf

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Restore the West to what?

To its former greatness, rather than the p*ssy, PC, weak, liberal, environMental, feminised West that panders to the Muslims and gays and which is producing a whole generation of weakling, effeminate, vegetarian "men" and masculine, deep-voiced "women".
 

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To its former greatness, rather than the p*ssy, PC, weak, liberal, environMental, feminised West that panders to the Muslims and gays and which is producing a whole generation of weakling, effeminate, vegetarian "men" and masculine, deep-voiced "women".

Hey, we're half way there. The British are "Brexiting".
 

Blackleaf

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Hey, we're half way there. The British are "Brexiting".

And Trump will be elected.

British and American voters have obviously got some common sense.

Meanwhile, look at the effeminate poof running Canada.
 

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And Trump will be elected.

British and American voters have obviously got some common sense.

Meanwhile, look at the effeminate poof running Canada.

Trump is a phoney baloney. If you want to make the already dominant West greater still, start teaching critical thinking skills to our children. A lack of clear, logical understanding by the voting populace is what is dragging down the West, not your latent fantacies.
 

Blackleaf

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Trump is a phoney baloney. If you want to make the already dominant West greater still, start teaching critical thinking skills to our children. A lack of clear, logical understanding by the voting populace is what is dragging down the West, not your latent fantacies.

A lack of clear, logical thinking by voters? We've just seen voters vote to leave the EU. We're about to see voters elect Mr Trump. That kind of blows your argument to smithereens.
 

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A lack of clear, logical thinking by voters? We've just seen voters vote to leave the EU. We're about to see voters elect Mr Trump. That kind of blows your argument to smithereens.

No, it reinforces it in spades.

Stupid and stupider ...
 

Blackleaf

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No, it reinforces it in spades.

Stupid and stupider ...

So you want schools to brainwash children to vote the "right" way - for some loony lefty party or course of action - once they are old enough to vote?

I see....

As for Brexit, it is the greatest thing to have happened to Britain since 1945 (and I think it is rather hypocritical of you to attack Brexit when your country is itself outside of the EU) and Mr Trump will be almost as good for America. Having Clinton in power would leave the world a more dangerous place and it's something too horrific for me to contemplate in great detail.
 

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You haven't even "brexited", yet. How would you know if it is good for you or not? If the initial market responses to it are any indication,you will all end up poorer and more isolated. Yes, you wil! get rid of some of your itinerant Polish tradesmen but they were't doing you any harm, anyway.
 

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And Trump will be elected.

British and American voters have obviously got some common sense.

Meanwhile, look at the effeminate poof running Canada.

LOLOLOL!

If Trump is elected, the entire world is skrewed. Trump isn't some savior; if anything he'll destroy more people and places.

That you think he's someone good to be president just shows to me how totally inept and out of touch with reality you are.

Like any politician, Trudeau has done some good things and some questionable things; overall I like what he's done but yes he could do better.

At least he's not a total unknown like your new PM, whoever she is.
 

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You haven't even "brexited", yet. How would you know if it is good for you or not?

How would you know that it's bad?

Surely becoming a free, sovereign, independent state is infinitely more preferable to staying in a corrupt, undemocratic, economically sclerotic union that does not benefit Britain in any way.

If the initial market responses to it are any indication

Britain is booming. The economic calamity and disaster predicted by the Remoaners hasn't come to pass.
you will all end up poorer



and more isolated.

Approximately 87% of the world's countries are outside the EU, including Canada. Are they all isolated? Was Britain isolated before she joined what is now the EU in 1973?

Yes, you wil! get rid of some of your itinerant Polish tradesmen but they were't doing you any harm, anyway.

Well immigration needs to be cut massively. Immigration is way too high.
 

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And Trump will be elected.

British and American voters have obviously got some common sense.

Meanwhile, look at the effeminate poof running Canada.

Canada runs itself with much less central control then some of these other big ticket venues:
which is good - central control is the surest way to fail and rape a country...
Just ask the the old USSR types, or O'bomba and the Clintons
 

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Trump is a phoney baloney. If you want to make the already dominant West greater still, start teaching critical thinking skills to our children. A lack of clear, logical understanding by the voting populace is what is dragging down the West, not your latent fantacies.

That would require teachers with critical thinking skills to do the teaching. Sadly lacking in our unionized government workforce where everything is geared around the lowest common denominator and what the teacher's union demands.

LOLOLOL!

If Trump is elected, the entire world is skrewed. Trump isn't some savior; if anything he'll destroy more people and places.

That you think he's someone good to be president just shows to me how totally inept and out of touch with reality you are.

Like any politician, Trudeau has done some good things and some questionable things; overall I like what he's done but yes he could do better.

At least he's not a total unknown like your new PM, whoever she is.

That is the really scary part. trudOWE is not a total unknown and still got elected.
 

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LOLOLOL!

If Trump is elected, the entire world is skrewed. Trump isn't some savior; if anything he'll destroy more people and places.

That you think he's someone good to be president just shows to me how totally inept and out of touch with reality you are.

Like any politician, Trudeau has done some good things and some questionable things; overall I like what he's done but yes he could do better.

At least he's not a total unknown like your new PM, whoever she is.
What has Trudeau done that you like ? Which specific legislation has been passed that you favor ?