Unchecked mass migration will make Europe unrecognisable

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As stresses of mass migration in Europe build, a Washington think-tank claims that an army of 450,000 men are needed to stop the seismic turbulence in the Middle East, writes Max Hastings.

Could this lead to WAR in Europe? Apocalyptic, yes. But even if conflict can be avoided, MAX HASTINGS says unchecked mass migration will make Europe unrecognisable


Predictions claim the seismic turbulence in the Middle East will continue

Washington think-tank claims an army of 450,000 men needed to stop it

Unprecedented stress of migration in Europe could lead to outright war



By Max Hastings For The Daily Mail
19 March 2016
Daily Mail

Last week in Washington, I met an old friend who is one of the smartest strategy wonks I know. His business is crystal ball-gazing.

During our conversation, he offered some speculations about what could happen to our world over the next decade or two which made my hair stand on end.

He predicts that the seismic turbulence in the Middle East will continue, and indeed worsen, unless or until the West is willing to commit stabilisation forces to the region. He calculates that an army of the order of magnitude of 450,000 men would be necessary, to have any chance of success.


As mass migration pressures on Europe grow, a Washington think-tank predicts that it will take an army of 450,000 to have any chance of ending the seismic turbulence in the Middle East. Riot police stand guard in front of a migrant reception centre in Roszke, Hungary, September 2015


Claimed that war within our continent is not impossible before the middle of the century. Migrants warming on a fire beside railroad tracks in the Idomeni refugee camp at the Greek-Macedonia border on March 18

In the absence of such an effort — for which he admits the political will does not exist on either side of the Atlantic, and is unlikely to do so in the future — he believes that the tidal wave of migration to Europe from the Middle East and Africa will continue, with consequences much greater and graver than any national leader has yet acknowledged.

He suggested that war within our continent is not impossible before the middle of the century, as southern European nations are swamped by incomers, and Greece stands first in line to become a failed state.

We can defer for a moment the question of whether my friend’s most frightening scenarios are likely to be fulfilled.

What was sobering about our conversation is that here was an uncommonly well-informed man who believes that the earthquakes shaking the Middle East, together with the scale of economic migration from Africa, could undo all our comfortable assumptions about the stability of the society in which we live, including our confidence that Europe has turned its back on war for ever.

The most obvious lesson of history is that events and threats always take us by surprise.

Consider the shocks we have experienced in modern times. Almost nobody expected the Irish Troubles; the Argentine invasion of the Falklands; the collapse of the Soviet Union; the dramatic rise of Muslim extremism; the 9/11 attacks in New York and 7/7 bombings in London; the global banking disaster of 2007-8; the break up of the Middle East that began with the 2003 Iraq invasion.

I never cease to be amazed by the continuing willingness of institutions all over the world to pay fat fees for speeches from the American academic Francis Fukuyama, who in 1992 published a ridiculous best-seller entitled The End Of History, which proclaimed that liberal democracy and free-market capitalism were now triumphant and unassailable, having shown their superiority to all alternatives.


The most obvious lesson of history is that events and threats always take us by surprise. A refugee (centre) is hit with a belt by a man as he is dragged by fellow refugees to the police, accusing him of abusing a young girl, at a makeshift camp at the Greek-Macedonian border near the village of Idomeni


Refugees react during a protest asking for the opening of borders at a makeshift camp at the Greek-Macedonian border near the village of Idomeni, Greece, March 18


Tens of millions of people in Africa, too, aspire to move to Europe in search of a better life, and huge numbers are already crossing the Mediterranean via Libya, Algeria and Tunisia

Everything that has happened since shows that Fukuyama was as wrong as could be. Across large swathes of the globe, authoritarian regimes flourish like the green bay tree. Democracy has never looked rockier, even in the United States.

My think-tank friend in Washington observed last week: ‘Democracy only works where there is a broad consensus about the distribution of wealth and power.’ And it is because this consensus faces unprecedented stresses in consequence of migration in Europe, that he believes some factions may resort to violence, even outright war.

It seems foolish to dismiss this warning out of hand. The threat posed by mass population movement is huge and intractable, and it is hard to have much faith in the deal struck yesterday between the EU and Turkey which seeks to halt the huge numbers reaching the shores of Greece.

What it will actually mean is that 77 million Turks will have the right to travel all the way to Calais unhindered should they so wish.

Tens of millions of people in Africa, too, aspire to move to Europe in search of a better life, and huge numbers are already crossing the Mediterranean via Libya, Algeria and Tunisia.

The entire Middle East is in a ferment, and it is impossible to see any reason why peace should be restored any time soon. This week, President Vladimir Putin announced that Russia’s forces are beginning to withdraw from Syria, where their aircraft have been conducting a murderous bombing campaign against rebels fighting the Kremlin’s client, President Bashir Assad.


The entire Middle East is in a ferment, and it is impossible to see any reason why peace should be restored any time soon


There are signs that the Kurds and Iraqis are making headway in the struggle against Islamic State which, sooner or later, will probably collapse. Children play on a pile of gravel at the northern Greek border point of Idomeni, Greece, March 18

Western governments are pondering the implications of this surprise move. British analysts think Putin judges that his air strikes have put Assad in a position to negotiate from relative strength. Yet whether he stays in power or goes, it is hard to believe that Syria will again function as a single state.

Most likely it will fragment as Libya has fragmented, with rival factions continuing to contest territory. There are no ‘good guys’ in Syria, which makes it hard to anticipate an end to the violence which has driven millions to quit their homes.

There are signs that the Kurds and Iraqis are making headway in the struggle against Islamic State which, sooner or later, will probably collapse. Yet such is the fervour of Muslim extremism across the region that some successor movement is sure to arise, with terrorist branches making mayhem in the West.

Meanwhile, the Saudis and Iranians are fiercely fighting each other through proxy forces in Yemen, while Turkey’s stability is under threat from millions of Syrian refugees on its soil, from Kurdish separatist violence, and from the erratic governance of its own despotic leader, President Erdogan.

Arguably the most sinister symptom of this vast region’s troubles is the flight of money.

I attended a bankers’ meeting this week at which much of the gossip was about the desperate flight of the rich, together with their money, from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar and in lesser degree the UAE. Many of those able to liquidate assets and move them to Europe or America are doing so. They fear for the stability of local regimes, and also anticipate more inter-state wars.

Strife will continue, and spread across the Middle East. There is no single, over-arching course of action open to the U.S. or Nato governments that can resolve this alarming state of affairs. It can only be addressed piecemeal, through local diplomatic initiatives and modest military assistance.

For instance, though the West cannot promise the Kurds the independent state they crave in northern Iraq, it can at least provide them with sufficient military aid to resist ISIS, while at the same time seeking to persuade the Turks to stop bombing Kurdish forces.

For their part, the U.S. and European governments are doing their best to avert a military showdown between Iran and Saudi Arabia.

They must also face up to the need to bargain with Russia for a dirty deal that will at least curb the violence in Syria, and drive back the forces of ISIS, even if the odious Assad continues for a time to crow on his dunghill.


Strife will continue, and spread across the Middle East. Migrants are escorted by police through fields towards a holding camp in the village of Dobova on October 26, 2015 in Rigonce, Slovenia


The people on these odysseys are driven by motivations and passions more intense than most of us can imagine

None of this amounts to a ‘solution’, which does not exist, but it may at least help to contain the chain of crises.

We should recognise that the old state borders of most of the embattled countries, notably including Iraq and Libya, are almost certainly defunct. They will fragment into statelets dominated by the local tribe or warlord.

Moreover, it is hard to see any course of action that can stem the flow of migrants to the West, the foremost concern for most of the people who inhabit our continent. Only a proportion of the incomers are fleeing from the immediate consequences of violence. A far larger number, according to every survey conducted in Europe, come from places where there is no war. They simply seek better lives.

The physical difficulties of preventing them from coming are immense. When they are plucked from sinking boats in the Mediterranean, human rights law and the cynical attitude of North African governments make it almost impossible to return them to their ports of embarkation.

The people on these odysseys are driven by motivations and passions more intense than most of us can imagine. They see our societies offering a wealth and security unimaginable in their homelands. They embrace the most desperate dangers to reach our shores.

At present, the governments of Europe have no credible and coherent policies for checking or halting the flood, beyond creating some frail fences on the Eastern margins.

Mass migration now poses the gravest threat to Europe’s stability and tranquillity since the end of the Cold War, and arguably since 1945.

Unless it is checked, over the coming decades it promises to change the character and make-up of all our societies on a scale to make past immigration seem trivial.

One policy to which David Cameron’s government is rightly committed is to work to ameliorate the conditions of refugees and economic migrants in their own countries, or at least nearby. Britain is a generous donor to the UN’s international refugee programmes.

It would be naïve to imagine that aid alone can stem the migration tide, but it can help.


Mass migration now poses the gravest threat to Europe’s stability and tranquillity since the end of the Cold War, and arguably since 1945. Migrants sit on a rescue boat during a rescue operation of migrants by Italian Navy vessels in this March 18

Those of us bitterly critical of Cameron’s insistence on ring-fencing the foreign aid budget might feel better if our money was directed squarely and explicitly to countries from which the principal refugee flow is coming, both in Africa and the Middle East.

Of course, the West cannot aspire to enable Nigerians, Ethiopians or Afghans to enjoy the standard of living that exists in west London.

But we must do everything in our power to diminish the incentives for migration. Fences and border controls at Calais will not suffice.

None of the answers is easy. This crisis can only grow in the months and years ahead. Leaving the EU may well help Britain to control its borders, but will not alone solve this historic problem.

The principal charge against Europe’s leaders today is that none of them, including David Cameron, has begun to come clean with us about the enormity of the challenge.

Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel appeared a towering figure until August, when she made her disastrous unilateral commitment to open her country’s doors.


None of the answers is easy. This crisis can only grow in the months and years ahead. Leaving the EU may well help Britain to control its borders, but will not alone solve this historic problem


We must do everything in our power to diminish the incentives for migration. Fences and border controls at Calais will not suffice

Today some EU members, especially in the east, are striving to reverse the consequences of this policy, and to stem the flow. They are achieving only limited success: it is frightening to behold the numbers of newcomers pouring into Greece and Italy.

I have no doubt that after reading all this, a spokesman for the compassion industry would demand: where is your human sympathy for the millions suffering terribly in their own societies? Fair enough. My words sound harsh. But I would in turn ask that spokesman: where should human sympathy stop?

We are witnessing the beginning — and it is only the beginning — of a game-changing shift of populations, which if it continues unchecked will over the next half-century change all our societies for ever.

Maybe our children’s generation will be content to live with such a transformation. Maybe we can avoid the wars my friend in Washington fears. But our politicians should at least be telling the nation just how profound the coming upheaval threatens to be.
 
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Looks like another of Blackleaf's "the sky is falling" stories. In fact there is very little to the mass migration story. What exists in Europe is a mass refugee problem; not migration. Prior to the turmoil in Syria, Iraq, and so on migration from these ares was minimal. If a way can to be found to stop Muslims from murdering one another the problem will evaporate. In fact a lot of the refugees might decide to return to where they came from. This sort of BS story has existed since the 19th Century when the "Yellow Peril" threat was invented. In fact it never materialized with very few people leaving the Orient to settle in Europe or the Americas. If the Europeans really want to see what a country looks like after "mass migration" it should look at Canada where almost all immigrant populations of the last 150 years have merged almost seamlessly with the mainstream population. In other words, given enough time immigrants to Canada turn into Canadians.
 

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Looks like another of Blackleaf's "the sky is falling" stories. In fact there is very little to the mass migration story. What exists in Europe is a mass refugee problem; not migration. Prior to the turmoil in Syria, Iraq, and so on migration from these ares was minimal. If a way can to be found to stop Muslims from murdering one another the problem will evaporate. In fact a lot of the refugees might decide to return to where they came from. This sort of BS story has existed since the 19th Century when the "Yellow Peril" threat was invented. In fact it never materialized with very few people leaving the Orient to settle in Europe or the Americas. If the Europeans really want to see what a country looks like after "mass migration" it should look at Canada where almost all immigrant populations of the last 150 years have merged almost seamlessly with the mainstream population. In other words, given enough time immigrants to Canada turn into Canadians.

What's the difference between refugees moving to another country and migration? I fail to see one.

And I reckon most of these people are not refugees.
 

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What's the difference between refugees moving to another country and migration? I fail to see one.

And I reckon most of these people are not refugees.

Really? You actually don't know the difference between someone who freely chooses to take up residence in another country and one who is taken out of a refugee camp and sent to a destination over which he or she has no control?
 

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Really? You actually don't know the difference between someone who freely chooses to take up residence in another country and one who is taken out of a refugee camp and sent to a destination over which he or she has no control?

1) Migration is migration, no matter who or what it is doing the moving.

2) Most of these "refugees" are nothing of the sort. 90% - at least - of the filth entering Europe from the Middle East and North Africa are doing so of their own accord, and the vast majority are young men. Not many women are children are with these "refugees" as you would expect had they genuinely been refugees.

By the way, I have just heard the Islamic call to prayer. "Aaaalaaahuuuu Akbaaaaar! AAAAAAaaaAAAaaaaaaAAAA!" Not sure where it was coming from, but probably from that big Islamic minaret just down the road. Welcome to Britain - and Europe - in 2016.
 

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We came, we saw, we conquered. :)) maybe a tad over the top, but hey!! there are 33+ million in Iraq, 22+ million in Syria and 30+ Million in Afghanistan. Even 5% of each could change any country.
 

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1) Migration is migration, no matter who or what it is doing the moving.

2) Most of these "refugees" are nothing of the sort. 90% - at least - of the filth entering Europe from the Middle East and North Africa are doing so of their own accord, and the vast majority are young men. Not many women are children are with these "refugees" as you would expect had they genuinely been refugees.

By the way, I have just heard the Islamic call to prayer. "Aaaalaaahuuuu Akbaaaaar! AAAAAAaaaAAAaaaaaaAAAA!" Not sure where it was coming from, but probably from that big Islamic minaret just down the road. Welcome to Britain - and Europe - in 2016.
Best get ready to convert there blackloaf or ye'll pay the consequences. No more bacon for ye either.
 

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1) Migration is migration, no matter who or what it is doing the moving.

2) Most of these "refugees" are nothing of the sort. 90% - at least - of the filth entering Europe from the Middle East and North Africa are doing so of their own accord, and the vast majority are young men. Not many women are children are with these "refugees" as you would expect had they genuinely been refugees.

By the way, I have just heard the Islamic call to prayer. "Aaaalaaahuuuu Akbaaaaar! AAAAAAaaaAAAaaaaaaAAAA!" Not sure where it was coming from, but probably from that big Islamic minaret just down the road. Welcome to Britain - and Europe - in 2016.

Your problem (besides being a xenophobe that is) is that you haven't had the immigrant experience the way nations like Canada has in which hundreds of ethnic and religious groups have come together to form a common culture. Not a big surprise if there are more Brits like you. But better get used to it. The world is becoming more multicultural not less.
 

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The shear number of brits migrating to Canada is a problem we must deal with. Poorly educated, non existent hygiene and an affinity to government cheques.
 

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The shear number of brits migrating to Canada is a problem we must deal with.

What is the number of Britons who are emigrating to Canada?

Many Britons who have emigrated to Canada would have done so under the programme set up by your government in 2008 to specifically attract British immigrants.

Your problem (besides being a xenophobe that is)

So being against mass, unchecked immigration - mass, unchecked immigration that the British public have never given consent to nor been asked about and which is changing the cultural and ethnic and social make up of Britain for the worse - is being "xenophobic" is it?

The world is becoming more multicultural not less.
No, it isn't. Are African countries and China and Japan and South Korea accepting loads of white immigrants who are changing their cultural and ethnic and social make up?

Is Muslim filth emigrating en masse to South America?

I'm afraid that the FAILED concept of multiculturalism - something which gave us 7/7 and Woolwich and medieval brutality in south London mosques - is mainly limited to PC Europe and North America, where successive governments have opened the floodgates to every Tom, Dick and Abdul under the Sun to come in and take our jobs without even asking their people whether or not they want such mass, unchecked immigration into their countries.
 

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So being against mass, unchecked immigration - mass, unchecked immigration that the British public have never given consent to nor been asked about and which is changing the cultural and ethnic and social make up of Britain for the worse - is being "xenophobic" is it?

No, it isn't. Are African countries and China and Japan and South Korea accepting loads of white immigrants who are changing their cultural and ethnic and social make up?

Is Muslim filth emigrating en masse to South America?

I'm afraid that the FAILED concept of multiculturalism - something which gave us 7/7 and Woolwich and medieval brutality in south London mosques - is mainly limited to PC Europe and North America, where successive governments have opened the floodgates to every Tom, Dick and Abdul under the Sun to come in and take our jobs without even asking their people whether or not they want such mass, unchecked immigration into their countries.

Actually the last unchecked mass migration to Europe occurred between the fourth and ninth centuries. The Syrian refugee problem certainly does not count as such. The entire population of Syria could be settled in Europe without any real impact.

As for multiculturalism that is my point. The concept has succeeded beautifully in Canada, but is pretty much a bust in much of Europe, mainly due to the attitudes of people like yourself who regard anyone different as a threat to their way of life.

And you are dead wrong about multiculturalism not being the wave of the future. The exchange of ideas between cultures has never been faster or more widespread, helped along by a little something called the internet - perhaps you've heard of it.
 

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Actually the last unchecked mass migration to Europe occurred between the fourth and ninth centuries. The Syrian refugee problem certainly does not count as such. The entire population of Syria could be settled in Europe without any real impact.

As for multiculturalism that is my point. The concept has succeeded beautifully in Canada, but is pretty much a bust in much of Europe, mainly due to the attitudes of people like yourself who regard anyone different as a threat to their way of life.

And you are dead wrong about multiculturalism not being the wave of the future. The exchange of ideas between cultures has never been faster or more widespread, helped along by a little something called the internet - perhaps you've heard of it.

So in the wake of yet more terror attacks in Europe - terror attacks which multiculturalism and mass immigration are, one again, partly to blame for - do you really still think multiculturalism has failed mainly due to the attitudes of sensible people like me or are you now, finally, starting to see that multiculturalism has failed mainly due to the attitudes of the immigrant filth themselves?
 

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What's the difference between refugees moving to another country and migration? I fail to see one.

And I reckon most of these people are not refugees.



If you call them refugees they get more sympathy.
This 'sky-is-falling' syndrome is what is going to do us in. People are in denial that this could ever happen even while it IS happening.
First the Paris massacre, now today explosions at Belgium Airport and train station kill 34, injure 170. The prediction is that London will be next.
Our turn is coming down the line somewhere and we're sitting ducks thanks to the Heads-up-their-asses crowd that the Liberals are leading.
 

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If you call them refugees they get more sympathy.
This 'sky-is-falling' syndrome is what is going to do us in. People are in denial that this could ever happen even while it IS happening.
First the Paris massacre, now today explosions at Belgium Airport and train station kill 34, injure 170. The prediction is that London will be next.
Our turn is coming down the line somewhere and we're sitting ducks thanks to the Heads-up-their-asses crowd that the Liberals are leading.
They're gonna getcha. best put bars on your windows and a couple pit bulls in your back yard. :)
 

Blackleaf

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If you call them refugees they get more sympathy.
This 'sky-is-falling' syndrome is what is going to do us in. People are in denial that this could ever happen even while it IS happening.
First the Paris massacre, now today explosions at Belgium Airport and train station kill 34, injure 170. The prediction is that London will be next.
Our turn is coming down the line somewhere and we're sitting ducks thanks to the Heads-up-their-asses crowd that the Liberals are leading.


I do think that a terror attack in Britain of such a scale is less likely than on the Continent, such as France and Belgium, for the simple reason that our police and security services are much better; we have far more experience of handling such terrorist threats and stopping them than the Continentals do because of the 30 years of IRA bombings; and we have very strict gun controls, which has led to terrorists and would-be terrorists in Britain in recent years having to resort to merely using knives rather than much more deadly guns, such as we saw in Woolwich and that madman at Leytonstone tube station in December.

But you're right that our leaders are largely in denial. No doubt today and over the next few days we'll hear the usual nonsense from the likes of Belgian PM Charles Michel and Hollande and Obama that "these attacks have nothing to do with Islam" and that they'll do "everything necessary to stop such attacks occurring again" but then refuse to admit that the EU's Schengen free movement of people rule has been a disaster and a big factor in these attacks and those in Paris last year and that it needs to be abolished. BBC News and Sky News earlier attacked a high ranking member of Ukip for saying, quite rightly, on Twitter than these attacks show that Schengen has been a massive failure. They accused the Ukip fellow of making the comments at an "inappropriate time." But I can think of no more approporiate time to highlight the failure of Schengen than in the wake of terror attacks which Schengen probably aided.
 

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So in the wake of yet more terror attacks in Europe - terror attacks which multiculturalism and mass immigration are, one again, partly to blame for - do you really still think multiculturalism has failed mainly due to the attitudes of sensible people like me or are you now, finally, starting to see that multiculturalism has failed mainly due to the attitudes of the immigrant filth themselves?

I see you use the term "immigrant filth." I think that term pretty much explains why multiculturalism in Europe has not succeeded the way it has in Canada. You remind me of the members of the KKK who blamed the problems American Blacks had on the Blacks. It is pretty much the case that the more racist a culture the less likely it is to accept multiculturalism. But as I said - it is happening anyway and bigots like you won't stop it.
 

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If you call them refugees they get more sympathy.
This 'sky-is-falling' syndrome is what is going to do us in. People are in denial that this could ever happen even while it IS happening.
First the Paris massacre, now today explosions at Belgium Airport and train station kill 34, injure 170. The prediction is that London will be next.
Our turn is coming down the line somewhere and we're sitting ducks thanks to the Heads-up-their-asses crowd that the Liberals are leading.
Maybe not as the ones in the EU are ISIS members trained to be nothing but terrorists that have not undergone any training to undo that. If Syria hadn't chased them out they would be doing the same thing in that country. Considering the reaction to these bombs going off Syria made the right move as they get a bit of breathing room.
 

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I see you use the term "immigrant filth." I think that term pretty much explains why multiculturalism in Europe has not succeeded the way it has in Canada. You remind me of the members of the KKK who blamed the problems American Blacks had on the Blacks. It is pretty much the case that the more racist a culture the less likely it is to accept multiculturalism. But as I said - it is happening anyway and bigots like you won't stop it.

Multiculturalism has not succeeded in Europe not because of people like me because of the many Muslims who don't want to fit it; who believe that Europe should become more Islamic to accommodate them rather than them becoming British or French or Belgian etc and respecting our laws and customs and traditions and values.

Muliculturalism has also failed because of wave after wave of successive PC , liberal European leaders who actively pursue multiculturalism by telling incomers that they don't have to fit in; that they don't have to adopt British or French or Belgian etc customs and values and traditions and that they can bring with them all their colourful and not-so-colourful customs and values and traditions with them from whatever godforsaken place they hail from. Therefore we have many, many immigrant filth who don't feel any attachment towards their adopted country and who believe that we Britons, French, Belgians etc should have to accommodate them rather than them becoming British, French, Belgian etc.

They are the main reasons why multiculturalism has been a massive failure. It's nothing to do with people like me.

As for immigration into the UK, it's way, WAY too high. In fact, it's ten times higher than it should be. Ukip have been saying for a few years now that immigration needs to be reduced to a tenth of what it is now back to the levels it was for many, many decades until the Blair Administration opened the floodgates in the late Nineties but yet, so far, the government has failed to listen. In fact, despite Cameron's “no ifs no buts” pledge in 2011 to reduce immigration into Britain it actually INCREASED yet again last year.