The spirit of Dunkirk will see UK thrive outside the EU

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We should be proud of the role we have played in Europe. We have many friends in many countries who understand and appreciate that historic role. If Britain leaves the EU it will be more in sorrow than in anger. Quiet voices will hear our news. The best of them will receive it in silence and sadness.

They will understand that, from time to time, the oldest, most stable and most successful country in Europe has a duty to remind a European Union barely 50 years old that government is the servant, and not the master, of the people.


The spirit of Dunkirk will see us thrive outside the EU


The European Union needs a sharp reminder that governments are the servants, and not the masters, of their people


A constitutional crisis would add an element of excitement to life Photo: Alamy




By Penny Mordaunt, Minister of State for the Armed Forces
25 Feb 2016
The Telegraph
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We live in an age of forgetfulness. But we ought never to forget what our forefathers taught us – that democracy doesn’t just happen. This EU referendum is not about the narrow issues of the recent deal. It’s about something much greater.

In our long Island history there have been many times when Britain has not been well-served by alignment with Europe. Rather it has been our country’s vision, inspiration and courage that have acted as the catalyst to betterment on the continent. We should be proud of our part in liberating Europe, of guaranteeing its borders and of our involvement in those seismic changes which have extended freedom to all its peoples.

When Britain stood alone in 1940 after the defeat at Dunkirk, we were cut off and ridiculed. True leadership sometimes does feel isolating. Yet we have never suffered for it. We are resourceful; we are well connected; our brand is strong in the world.

We have trade agreements outside the EU and the EU exports more to us than we export to it. Would the remaining EU members place their citizens (or ours for that matter) in harm’s way by refusing to cooperate on security matters in the event of a Brexit? Would they ask us to cease our contributions to common security and defence missions? The simple truth is this: no.


Of the 250,000 British troops stranded at Dunkirk after the fall of Belgium, 30,000 were lost


Europe now faces grave problems; the migrant crisis; a surge in criminal activity and a complete breakdown of trust between member states as to how they manage their security and borders. These challenges – like all problems – will be solved by imagination, flexibility and national responsibility.

Yet it is these precise qualities that have been extinguished by the EU.

Debt and weak growth have seen the EU share of global growth halved since the signing of the Single European Act; our small and medium-sized businesses are having to deal with ever more EU red tape. Even the basic tenets surrounding the freedom of movement of goods, services and capital have yet to deliver for all EU members, as our banking and insurance sectors and our hauliers can testify.

The EU is on a crash course and it desperately needs to reform.

This reform would see the EU genuinely act in the interests of its nation states and their citizens. What is required for is simple: democracy and accountability. That is the necessary condition for a safer, stronger, and better off Britain and Europe. Yet time and time again the EU has failed to achieve the reform desired by its peoples.

It has failed to recognise the intolerable strain of forced harmonisation on its member nations; it has failed to respond to concerns about its budget and corruption, with its accounts failing their audits for two decades; and, most recently, it has failed to accede in full to the Prime Minister’s very reasonable requests.

David Cameron has deployed energy, drive and charm in recent months to deliver the best “In” option. We owe him our thanks not only for that but also for the referendum he has delivered. Unfortunately, he has merely proved that you cannot help those who will not help themselves.

That the deal offered falls so far short of what was wanted is not the Prime Minister’s failure. It is the EU’s failure.

We should be proud of the role we have played in Europe. We have many friends in many countries who understand and appreciate that historic role. If Britain leaves the EU it will be more in sorrow than in anger. Quiet voices will hear our news. The best of them will receive it in silence and sadness.

They will understand that, from time to time, the oldest, most stable and most successful country in Europe has a duty to remind a European Union barely 50 years old that government is the servant, and not the master, of the people.


The spirit of Dunkirk will see us thrive outside the EU - Telegraph
 

Blackleaf

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You were running from the German Army!

You - with all your aircraft carriers and fighter planes and helicopter gunships - were running from a group of primitive farmers dressed in pyjamas and armed with bamboo sticks.

And another difference between the British and the Americans is that the British beat the Germans whereas the Americans lost against those bamboo-wielding farmers.
 

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Just wondering, Princess. Is this delusion that Britain won WWII all by its lonesome a product of your own personal mental illness, or is this what they teach in Briddish schools?
 

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Just wondering, Princess. Is this delusion that Britain won WWII all by its lonesome a product of your own personal mental illness, or is this what they teach in Briddish schools?

In fact, it's actually you Yanks who believe you won WWII all by yourselves, despite turning up late as usual.

We beat the Germans and have the best armed forces on Earth. You lost against the Vietnamese, because your military is second rate.
 

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In fact, it's actually you Yanks who believe you won WWII all by yourselves, despite turning up late as usual.

We beat the Germans and have the best armed forces on Earth. You lost against the Vietnamese, because your military is second rate.
You didn't answer the question.
 

Blackleaf

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You didn't answer the question.

Britain didn't win WWII on her own because of the sheer numbers taking part. But I believe had she fought alone against the Axis powers - and don't forget that she did precisely that for a part of the war - then she still would have won.

Britain was the last country in Europe that vowed to fight until the very end - and she did.

Was IS certainly true, though, is that the war would probably have still been won without US intervention.
 

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Britain didn't win WWII on her own because of the sheer numbers taking part. But I believe had she fought alone against the Axis powers - and don't forget that she did precisely that for a part of the war - then she still would have won.

Britain was the last country in Europe that vowed to fight until the very end - and she did.

Was IS certainly true, though, is that the war would probably have still been won without US intervention.
You still didn't answer the question. Then again, you never do.

Standard-issue lager lout.
 
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Just curious Blackleaf, when this "inevitable" alleged departure from the EU takes place will you be throwing out the tens of thousands of workers currently working in the UK?
 

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You - with all your aircraft carriers and fighter planes and helicopter gunships - were running from a group of primitive farmers dressed in pyjamas and armed with bamboo sticks.




Driven into the sea in a war that you started.




And another difference between the British and the Americans is that the British beat the Germans whereas the Americans lost against those bamboo-wielding farmers.


The Brits were auxiliary troops once the Americans took over.
 

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Britain didn't win WWII on her own because of the sheer numbers taking part. But I believe had she fought alone against the Axis powers - and don't forget that she did precisely that for a part of the war - then she still would have won.

Britain was the last country in Europe that vowed to fight until the very end - and she did.

Was IS certainly true, though, is that the war would probably have still been won without US intervention.

That is probably true but it would never have been won without the Russians. They did the bulk of the suffering and fighting on land. The British (with a lot of Commonwealth help) defeated the Luftwaffe and Kreigsmarine with close to zero American participation in either fight.The Battle of Britain happened while the Americans were still neutral and the US Navy completely withdrew from the Atlantic after Pearl Harbour.

The Russians defeated the Wehrmacht and both the British and Americans hardly made a dent in that juggernaut. The Battle for Normandy worked because a couple of million German soldiers were missing from their order of Battle in France, by then.