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petros

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Shocking numbers: How criminal are Somalis in Denmark

By Berit Hartung Tirsdag den 17. december 2013, BT

[Bing translate] Somalis in Denmark are more criminal than Danes and immigrants from other countries. It is being revealed in brand new figures from the Ministry of Justice.

A recent response by the Justice Minister to the Parliamentary Committee on Foreign and Integration Policy shows that the problem of criminals with Somali citizenship is a large and growing problem.

People with Somali citizenship were sentenced in 2012 for violations of criminal law almost ten times more often [1000%] as people with Danish citizenship, which taking into account consist of the largest population group.

For every 1000 Somali nationals charged last year 114 were convicted for violations of the Penal Code. The same figures for Danish citizens is 13 (12.9% of 1000), while 54 out of 1000 citizens from other countries got a conviction.

And that figure is rising, reveal the result from data on the development from 2008 to 2012.

The question to the Minister posed in November were as follows:

-Will the Secretary please advise where high crime is amongst the Somali population in Denmark, both compared to other immigrant groups and in relation to the Danes?

Question was asked at the invitation of DF’eren Martin Henriksen, and he is surprised by the figures.

-It is very aggressive [high]. It is thought-provoking that the figures for Somali nationals are so high. When you look at how large the group of asylum seekers from Somalia are, then it does not bring it especially into a bright future, says Danish people’s Party’s Immigration spokesman, and adds:

-It is showing that it is deeply problematic to have immigration from Somalia. That is what we should be thinking into the immigration policy.

Martin Henriksen makes no bones that it was particularly the so-called Gullestrup-case, where a young Somali raped a 10-year-old girl, which prompted him to ask the question.

Danish people’s Party will use the answer politically. Martin Henriksen is hoping that the answer from the Minister can kick new life into the integration debate and, in the longer term, help to tighten the requirements of immigration into Denmark.

-If you care about, that people should not be exposed to crime, then it is also pertinent to look at whether there are certain population groups, which greatly contribute to crime statistics. And if it is, it is natural to adjust a reduction for that section of immigrants, says Martin Henriksen.

He warns, however, not to discriminate against an entire population. Quite the contrary.

-I believe that a tight immigration policy is good for the well-integrated immigrants regardless of what background they have. So they do not run the risk that people look askance at them because their population is over-represented in crime statistics, reads the argument from Henriksen.

Last weekend a 15-year-old boy with a Somali background was taken into custody in a rape trial at Vollsmose. He is charged with having raped a young woman in Vollsmose in Odense on Friday night

Are they trying for a Nordic Ottoman Empire?
 

Dixie Cup

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Denmark, Germany, France etc., are MUCH smaller countries than Canada or the US. Those so-called "immigration groups" are not considering the size of the country and the population that already exists there. You can put 2 Denmark's in any of our provinces (excluding the Maritimes of course) because even are provinces are so much larger. Things are going to get tense when you have millions of people in a small area; thousands of whom do not speak your language and have different cultural values. Those issues must be taken into consideration as well as the financial repercussion by each country as to what is best for those to live there, citizens and immigrants alike. For decisions to be made for a country by others, ESPECIALLY the UN is simply stupidity.


I was never a proponent of the "European Union" mainly for because too much has been given up and too many decisions are left to people/organizations who don't actually live there. Now they're reaping the reward of having others make decisions whether they like it or not.


JMHO
 

Curious Cdn

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Somalia does have over 10 million people- possibly far exceeding the number of bandits, thugs, pirates, and general bad azzes! :)

Yeah, but why did all of the bad-asses have to settle in Toronto?

The Ugandan refugees from the 70s have only ever achieved good things, here. The Vietnamese Boat People ...build little businesses and work their asses off but the Somalis turned up and there was a crime wave. We apparently didn't get the best or the brightest. I hope that the current wave of refugees performs like the Viet and Ugandan East Indians ...and the Dutch, if you go a little further back in our refugee reception history.
 
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Its not the fact they Somalis its the fact they are organized criminals and there
are elements who know how to work the system. The problem is also that
there are troublemakers in a concentrated area. The problem I have with this
is they are using a broad brush and Europe has been through that before
 

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Its not the fact they Somalis its the fact they are organized criminals and there
are elements who know how to work the system. The problem is also that
there are troublemakers in a concentrated area. The problem I have with this
is they are using a broad brush and Europe has been through that before

Rapes, robberies, murder, theft, prostitution, are not working the system.
 

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What changed Denmark? Reality set in. Many in Germany feel the same way but the PC crowd currently running the country are too embarrassed to admit they are wrong
 

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One of the problems is most everyone wants to help people in times of crisis, but these same people we have reason to pity are like some other people and have such traits as a tendency to overstay their welcome, become demanding, slack off on accepting their portion of taking responsibility and contributing their share, etc. etc.etc. There's an old saying - "familiarity breeds contempt".
 

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What changed Denmark? Reality set in. Many in Germany feel the same way but the PC crowd currently running the country are too embarrassed to admit they are wrong


Well... in the foreseeable future... these problems will never migrate up people like Merkle's driveway. In the circles that the PC crowd travel in they will never be exposed to this type of behavior as long as they do not become adventurous.
 

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Shocking numbers: How criminal are Somalis in Denmark

By Berit Hartung Tirsdag den 17. december 2013, BT

[Bing translate] Somalis in Denmark are more criminal than Danes and immigrants from other countries. It is being revealed in brand new figures from the Ministry of Justice.

A recent response by the Justice Minister to the Parliamentary Committee on Foreign and Integration Policy shows that the problem of criminals with Somali citizenship is a large and growing problem.

People with Somali citizenship were sentenced in 2012 for violations of criminal law almost ten times more often [1000%] as people with Danish citizenship, which taking into account consist of the largest population group.

For every 1000 Somali nationals charged last year 114 were convicted for violations of the Penal Code. The same figures for Danish citizens is 13 (12.9% of 1000), while 54 out of 1000 citizens from other countries got a conviction.

And that figure is rising, reveal the result from data on the development from 2008 to 2012.

The question to the Minister posed in November were as follows:

-Will the Secretary please advise where high crime is amongst the Somali population in Denmark, both compared to other immigrant groups and in relation to the Danes?

Question was asked at the invitation of DF’eren Martin Henriksen, and he is surprised by the figures.

-It is very aggressive [high]. It is thought-provoking that the figures for Somali nationals are so high. When you look at how large the group of asylum seekers from Somalia are, then it does not bring it especially into a bright future, says Danish people’s Party’s Immigration spokesman, and adds:

-It is showing that it is deeply problematic to have immigration from Somalia. That is what we should be thinking into the immigration policy.

Martin Henriksen makes no bones that it was particularly the so-called Gullestrup-case, where a young Somali raped a 10-year-old girl, which prompted him to ask the question.

Danish people’s Party will use the answer politically. Martin Henriksen is hoping that the answer from the Minister can kick new life into the integration debate and, in the longer term, help to tighten the requirements of immigration into Denmark.

-If you care about, that people should not be exposed to crime, then it is also pertinent to look at whether there are certain population groups, which greatly contribute to crime statistics. And if it is, it is natural to adjust a reduction for that section of immigrants, says Martin Henriksen.

He warns, however, not to discriminate against an entire population. Quite the contrary.

-I believe that a tight immigration policy is good for the well-integrated immigrants regardless of what background they have. So they do not run the risk that people look askance at them because their population is over-represented in crime statistics, reads the argument from Henriksen.

Last weekend a 15-year-old boy with a Somali background was taken into custody in a rape trial at Vollsmose. He is charged with having raped a young woman in Vollsmose in Odense on Friday night

Are they trying for a Nordic Ottoman Empire?
Whatever is needed to protect Danish citizens; if it's calling out groups that commit crimes, then so be it. The truth is always the right road to take, political correctness needs to be trashed, it has failed us miserably.