Syriaously??

MHz
#241
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...tationed-iraq/ (external - login to view)
Following the announcement of a meeting between Turkey's Prime Minister Binali Yildirim and Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi (external - login to view), the two counterparts have agreed for the total withdrawal of all Turkish soldiers illegally stationed in the Bashiqa region near Mosul.
Iraqi television quoted al-Abadi confirming an agreement reached with Turkey on the withdrawal of Turkish troops from northern Iraq.
Turkish Prime Minister Ben Ali Yildirim is expected to also meet President Fuad Masum and Parliament Speaker Salim al-Jubouri following his meeting with Abadi, as well as community leaders of Iraq's Turkmen minority.

The deployment of Turkish troops near Mosul caused a political showdown between the two states, with the Iraqi Popular Mobilization Units vowing to rid Iraq of Turkish troops after defeating ISIS. Iraq also considered its options of attacking the illegally stationed Turkish troops.

httpwwwyoutubecomwatchviqx0-q6eUww

 
tay
#242
The Syrian government—a dictatorship known for imprisoning, torturing and disappearing dissidents—is easy to vilify. And over the last five years of Syria’s civil war, it has committed its share of atrocities. But there is more than one side to every story, and US media coverage has mainly reflected one side—that of the rebels—without regard for accuracy or basic context.

As the Syrian government recaptured East Aleppo from rebels in recent weeks, media outlets from across the political spectrum became rebel mouthpieces, unquestioningly relaying rebel claims while omitting crucial details about who the rebels were.

Almost always overlooked in the US (and UK) media narrative is the fact that the rebels in East Aleppo were a patchwork of Western- and Gulf-backed jihadist groups dominated by Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra)—Al Qaeda’s affiliate in Syria—along with its ally, Ahrar al-Sham (Daily Beast, 8/8/16 (external - login to view); Foreign Policy, 9/1/16 (external - login to view)). These groups are explicitly anti-democratic and have been implicated in human rights violations, from mass execution and child beheadings to using caged religious minorities as human shields.

In the absence of any desire to evoke a political response, US media would surely have identified East Aleppo’s rebels by the name of the most famous militant group in the world—Al Qaeda. Yet press reports regularly referred to the militant forces dominating East Aleppo simply as “rebels.”

“Women in Aleppo Choose Suicide Over Rape,” declared a headline at the Daily Beast (12/12/16 (external - login to view)). The source of this very serious claim was Abdullah Othman, a member of Jabhat Al-Shamiya, or the Levant Front, an umbrella group whose membership consists of several jihadist rebel factions. So far no evidence has been presented, at least not publicly, to substantiate Othman’s claim. But that didn’t stop his story from spreading like wildfire across social media and being picked up by Commentary (12/13/16 (external - login to view)), Mic (12/16/16 (external - login to view)), Elle (12/13/16 (external - login to view)) and Foreign Policy (12/16/16 (external - login to view)), among others.

NBC News (12/13/16 (external - login to view)) reported that “scores of civilians were burned alive by regime forces.” The source for this accusation was unspecified “reports from Arab media.” The Independent (12/17/16 (external - login to view)) warned of “house-to-house murder.” The source was British politician David Miliband. The UN (12/13/16 (external - login to view)) cited “credible reports” of 82 civilians being shot “on the spot” by pro-government forces.

While this is certainly plausible, the UN, which was not on the ground in East Aleppo, has yet to follow up on the matter.

US media also promoted accusations made by self-described “media activists” in East Aleppo warning that the Syrian regime was going to slaughter them. State Department spokesperson John Kirby called the messages “brave” and praised those who posted them as providing “independent third-party media coverage” of the horrors in Aleppo.

But information coming out of rebel areas is far from independent. On the contrary, it is tightly controlled by the jihadist groups that control these areas. These groups do not tolerate activism. They jail, torture and summarily execute activists, as well as lawyers, humanitarian workers, journalists and minorities. This should raise questions about anyone purporting to be an activist from rebel areas. But in the Western press, it doesn’t, which is why one of the most widely featured media personalities out of rebel-held Aleppo, Bilal Abdul Kareem, has been uncritically promoted by CNN (12/16/16 (external - login to view)) and even the usually adversarial Intercept (6/30/16 (external - login to view)), despite a well-established record of pushing hyper-sectarian propaganda for extremist groups (AlterNet, 12/29/16 (external - login to view)).

If media outlets were quick to grant legitimacy to rebel accusations, they ignored or downplayed rebel atrocities.

For example, when the rebels burned several buses (and killed the drivers) meant to evacuate the sick and injured from two besieged Shiite villages in Idlib, the New York Times (12/18/16 (external - login to view)) buried the details of the incident deep inside in the 19th paragraph of a story on evacuations.

Reports that the rebels shot at civilians attempting to flee to government areas and withheld food and humanitarian aid from civilians rarely made it into Western media reports.

While both sides have accused the other of carrying out massacres in Aleppo, only rebel accusations received widespread US media coverage. But the only evidence to emerge so far points to the rebels as culprits. Ahead of their evacuation from East Aleppo, rebel groups reportedly executed an estimated 100 Syrian soldiers they were holding prisoner, according to pro-government forces. The bodies were found in a local school. Despite photos, corroborating video evidence and the fact that rebels have carried out mass summary executions of Syrian soldiers taken prisoner in Aleppo
in the past, US media outlets mostly ignored it. One of the groups alleged to be behind the killings is Nouriddeen Al-Zinki, a recipient of US weapons. (Months ago, Al-Zinki fighters videotaped themselves beheading a child. The gruesome act was met with a shrug by the group’s Western backers.) Russia also reported finding mass graves of tortured civilians and booby traps during its sweep of East Aleppo, which received little to no attention.

If none of this were true, the loathing that many Syrians in government areas express for the rebels, and for the Western media who glorify them, would be hard to explain.

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How the Mainstream Media Turned Al Qaeda into a US Ally in Syria (external - login to view)
 
MHz
#243
I'm going to assume that the countries listed will now be able to go ahead with rebuilding their war torn countries so living there is a pleasure and not a burden.

Trump to 'ban immigrants from Syria and 6 other countries' | Daily Mail Online
President Donald Trump will start rolling out executive actions on immigration Wednesday - beginning with an order to start building his wall along the border with Mexico.
The president is also expected to take action over the next few days to temporarily ban immigration from Muslim countries deemed a 'threat to national security' - namely Syria, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Sudan, and Somalia.
In addition, Trump is set to sign other domestic immigration enforcement measures that will include targeting sanctuary cities that decline to prosecute undocumented aliens.
Another key policy shift being discussed is whether to scrap rules protecting hundreds of thousands of children of illegal immigrants from deportation.
 
MHz
#244
Trump is certainly helping.
www.naharnet.com/stories/en/2...es-return-home (external - login to view)
In light of the aggravating crisis of refugees that has been burdening Lebanon and its economy since the war erupted in Syria, President Michel Aoun urged the international community to facilitate the return of refugees to safe zones in their homeland.
“The International community must facilitate the return of displaced Syrians back to their homeland,” Aoun told UN High Commissioner for Refugees Filippo Grandi in a meeting at Baabda Palace.
“Establishing safe zones in Syria in collaboration with the Syrian government helps the return of the displaced,” he emphasized.
Nevertheless, Aoun assured that Lebanon does not intend to obligate any of the displaced to return under unstable security conditions.
He concluded: “Displaced Syrians could not stay in Lebanon forever.”
Lebanon hosts more than one million Syrians who have sought refuge in Lebanon from the devastating conflict in their homeland that has killed more than 310,000 people.


Bomb the place before the bad guys are there?? Really It seems to be helping them rather than hurting the terrorists.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#245
Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

The Syrian government—a dictatorship known for imprisoning, torturing and disappearing dissidents—is easy to vilify. And over the last five years of Syria’s civil war, it has committed its share of atrocities. But there is more than one side to every story, and US media coverage has mainly reflected one side—that of the rebels—without regard for accuracy or basic context.
As the Syrian government recaptured East Aleppo from rebels in recent weeks, media outlets from across the political spectrum became rebel mouthpieces, unquestioningly relaying rebel claims while omitting crucial details about who the rebels were.
Almost always overlooked in the US (and UK) media narrative is the fact that the rebels in East Aleppo were a patchwork of Western- and Gulf-backed jihadist groups dominated by Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (formerly Jabhat al-Nusra)—Al Qaeda’s affiliate in Syria—along with its ally, Ahrar al-Sham (Daily Beast, 8/8/16; Foreign Policy, 9/1/16). These groups are explicitly anti-democratic and have been...

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like the day Assad was supposed to have gassed his own people in front of UN poison gas inspectors and it turned out to be the US back turks and alciaDUH and daesh and IS US that did the gassing

...but it looks like the same fake news media is on trump's list of things to do....
 
MHz
+1
#246
Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

The Syrian government—a dictatorship known for imprisoning, torturing and disappearing dissidents—is easy to vilify. And over the last five years of Syria’s civil war, it has committed its share of atrocities. But there is more than one side to every story, and US media coverage has mainly reflected one side—that of the rebels—without regard for accuracy or basic context.

The one that experienced that were the ones flown in from other countries by the CIA so they could be tortured in Syrian prisons. Egypt did the same as did a host of other nations. They were not doing that to the locals.

https://www.wired.com/2013/02/54-countries-rendition/ (external - login to view)
In the years after 9/11, the CIA ran a worldwide program to hold and interrogate suspected members of al-Qaida, sometimes brutally. It wasn’t alone: The agency had literally dozens of partners that helped in ways large and small. Only it’s never been clear just how many nations enabled CIA capture and torture; cooperated with it; or carried it out on behalf of the U.S. — until now.
A new report from the Open Society Foundation details the CIA’s effort to outsource torture since 9/11 in excruciating detail. Known as “extraordinary rendition,” the practice concerns taking detainees to and from U.S. custody without a legal process — think of it like an off-the-books extradition — and often entailed handing detainees over to countries that practiced torture. The Open Society Foundation found that 136 people went through the post-9/11 extraordinary rendition, and 54 countries were complicit in it.
Some were official U.S. adversaries, like Iran and Syria, brought together with the CIA by the shared interest of combating terrorism. “By engaging in torture and other abuses associated with secret detention and extraordinary rendition,” writes chief Open Society Foundation investigator Amrit Singh in a report released early Tuesday, “the U.S. government violated domestic and international law, thereby diminishing its moral standing and eroding support for its counterterrorism efforts worldwide as these abuses came to light.”
Iran didn’t do any torturing on behalf of the CIA. Instead, it quietly transferred at least 15 of its own detainees to Afghan custody in March 2002. Six of those found their way into the CIA’s secret prisons. “Because the hand-over happened soon after the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan,” Singh writes, “Iran was aware that the United States would have effective control over any detainees handed over to Afghan authorities.” At least one of those detainees, Tawfik al-Bihani, ended up at Guantanamo Bay, where his official file (external - login to view) makes no mention of his time with the CIA.
Iran’s proxy Syria did torture on behalf of the United States. The most famous case involves Maher Arar (external - login to view), a Canadian citizen snatched in 2002 by the U.S. at John F. Kennedy International Airport before the CIA sent him to Syria under the mistaken impression he was a terrorist. In Syrian custody, Arar was “imprisoned for more than ten months in a tiny grave-like cell, beaten with cables, and threatened with electric shocks by the Syrian government,” Singh writes.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#248
I wonder how the place compares to guantanamo
www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/c...ose-guantanamo (external - login to view)

or palistein
 
MHz
#249
In case anybody has forgotten this place.

httpwwwyoutubecomwatchvYiJPgE8g0


SAA Tiger Forces capture 8 towns from ISIS in east Aleppo



www.proxy*****.com/invboard/i...kia-mountains/ (external - login to view)
A group of Russian robots were sent to fight in Syria, they killed 70 'rebels' in 20 minutes and captured Peak 754 in the Latakia mountains
 
tay
#251
So religious tourism is till a thing in Syria.......?


Twin blasts Saturday near holy shrines frequented by Shiites in the Syrian capital Damascus killed at least 40 people and wounded over a hundred, most of them Iraqis, according to Syrian and Iraqi officials.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the attacks. Islamic State group militants have carried out similar attacks before against Shiite shrines in the Syrian capital and elsewhere. Extremist Sunni groups, such as ISIL, view Shiites as apostates and consider shrines a form of idolatry.

Syrian State TV aired footage from the scene showing blood-soaked streets and several damaged buses in a parking lot, apparently where the explosions went off near Bab al-Saghir cemetery. The cemetery is one of Damascus' most ancient and is where several prominent religious figures are buried.

Interior Minister Mohammed al-Shaar visited the wounded in local hospitals. He said 40 were killed and 120 were wounded. He said the attacks targeted civilians, including Arab visitors, who were touring area's shrines.

Twin blasts kill 40 near religious sites in Syria (external - login to view)
 
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