Isis has surfaced in Afghanistan

tay

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The news from Afghanistan is very bad.

No one says that, of course. President Ghani has a “national unity government” that “supports a strong partnership with the United States”, according to Barack Obama two months ago. Sure, Kunduz was captured by the Taliban – but then the Afghans got it back (though minus one American-bombed hospital, along with most of its patients and doctors). Sure, Sangin was captured by the Taliban – but now the Afghan army is fighting to get it back. But didn’t more than a hundred British soldiers die to hold Sangin? Sure, but American troops in Iraq died to hold and keep Mosul – and Mosul is now the home of the Isis leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. And US troops in Iraq died to capture Fallujah, then lost it, and died all over again to recapture it – and Fallujah is now in the hands of Isis.

So Isis men are now fighting in their thousands in the country we arrived to “liberate” 14 years ago, quite apart from tens of thousands of Taliban “pushing” in to their “heartland” around Sangin (so much for Cameron’s stuff about achievements living for ever). And yet Obama tells Americans that in the corrupt Afghan government, the US has “a serious partner”, a “stable and committed ally” to prevent “future threats”.

You only have to read Afghan journalists’ reports from the country to know that even the old Churchillian “very bad” is a bit on the optimistic side. Take the case of the Shia Muslim Hazara Afghans taken from a bus on the way to Kabul this year. The lads from Isis stopped the bus, abducted 30 Shias and wanted to exchange them for family prisoners – Uzbeks, it seems – in Afghan government hands. The captives were subjected to the usual Isis treatment: at least one beheading, days of beatings, more videos of the Shias wearing suicide belts. Only after nine months were they freed, after an armed assault on their Isis captors by the Taliban. Yes, the bad guys suddenly turned into the good guys, the same bad guys who have captured Sangin, but are now fighting the even-more horrid bad guys. If this wasn’t tragic, it would be farce.

And, just for good measure, take the recent local story in Afghanistan about poor Qais Rahmani who, along with his family and four-month-old baby, set off among the refugee army to Europe and in Turkey boarded a boat to Greece which almost immediately sank. Qais’s baby died in his arms. Just another Alan Kurdi, you may say, but what struck Afghans was that Qais was a well-known television presenter, his wife and family university-educated. The Rahmanis were not from the poor and huddled masses. They were middle class, the very people who should have wanted to stay and build the new Afghanistan and to work for their government, which is – I quote Obama again – “working to combat corruption, strengthen institutions, and uphold the rule of law”.

So just stand back and look at the script. The Taliban ended the lawless regime of the Afghan militias and controlled almost all of Afghanistan by 1996. But it also sheltered al-Qaeda post 9/11. So we invaded Afghanistan to destroy both al-Qaeda and the vile misogynist, murderous and undemocratic Taliban. But the Taliban was not conquered. And now it is winning. And today, we surely want it to fight against the even more vile, misogynist and murderous Isis. Which is why, tucked away at the end of his peroration to the American people, Obama said that everyone should “press the Taliban… to do their part in the pursuit of the peace the Afghans deserve”. So the horrid Taliban can become the good, brave Taliban again. Truly, the news from Afghanistan must be very bad

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You won't hear it, but news from Afghanistan is bad | Voices | The Independent
 

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Unidentified Helicopters Drop off Daesh Terrorists in Afghanistan
A spokesman for the local government in Nangarhar province confirmed reports that the helicopters had dropped off men wearing in black uniforms, and added that similar sightings had also been reported in the provinces of Kunduz, Baghlan and Badakhshan. On December 16 Afghanistan's Khaama press news agency reported that fierce clashes between Daesh and the Taliban in eastern Nangarhar province had resulted in heavy losses for both sides.
"15 armed opponents have been killed and 36 others wounded in these clashes," said Ataullah Khogyani, spokesman for the governor of Nangarhar province, who added that four of the dead were Daesh terrorists, and 11 were Taliban.


 

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What does the Taliban think of ISIS? The miseries deserve each other, don't they?

As the article simplifies, the Taliban along with Al Queda, ISIS and various Dictators who are supported by foreign govts such as Russia the USA , Britain and Saudi Arabia are all fighting each other for control of the middle east.

Russia supports Assad in Syria and Iran.

The USA led coalition supports Iraq, Afghanistan and Assad in Syria.

Saudi Arabia supports ISIS because of their co religious beliefs.

And while some cry for Canadians to get more involved in this cess pool there are still lots of questions to be answered such as 'where are all these different factions getting their weapons from?'

An Afghan official said on Sunday that four Islamic State fighters were beheaded by the militiamen loyal to an influential Afghan lawmaker and their severed heads were publicly displayed highlighting an increasingly brutal conflict as the jihadist group makes inroads in Afghanistan.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world/afghan-militia-beheads-4-islamic-state-fighters-in-achin/story-IAdUrSAXAobMxSYoJpqWUJ.html
 

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One amazing apect of all this is how Israel is managing to maintain some distance from the latest insanity ... For now, anyway.
 

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Seriously, you didn't think ISIS would show up in Afghanistan?
They are in Iraq, Syria and Yemen incidentally all places where
all the places we have interfered with for years.
Then we decided to dictate to these governments what kind of
government would be opposed on them. Yes we thought it to be
appropriate to dictate the concept of democracy on the people
and go so far as to impose it.
The other part of the problem is we need strife or a small and
carefully controlled war. We can hardly go back and destroy
Vietnam again so there has to be somewhere else
Oh Middle East will do. Economies are bad almost everywhere
even Russia is having problems. Wouldn't you know it ISIS is
born. We will build them up let them win a few rounds to scare
the populations vilify one or more groups get a civil war going
like Vietnam and touch the fuse. This will drag on for at least a
decade until we demand change then they will clean it up and
look for a new place to spread their sunshine.
\Who is they? Good question, They is the folks who govern the
States of the world, they is the investment bankers and stock
market folks and that includes you and I because our retirement
funds are invested in making a profit and right now the best of
all profits are made in manufacturing a good war to keep the
economy afloat.