David, the last Lion of Judea

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I got no respect for anybody that would allow this to happen. I have a whole lot less respect to anbody who would cause this to happen.
This thread is a tribute to the murdered lion and I will never forget or forgive the people who did this to you.



Dozens of animals starve at Khan Younis zoo in Gaza | Daily Mail Online
 

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What do you expect from the Paleosimians and Muslims?

Those pictures are shocking.
 

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The food they needed was on the Israeli side of the fence.
Even defending them while looking at some of their handi-work. Maybe you don't know your masters as well as you think you do. After all Gaza id not a Zone where news gets out very often unless it come straight from the Nut orifice he calls a mouth. Fuk you for defending this kind of abuse and **** them for making it part of their daily lives. No wonder they are a depressed people no real compassion left. I'll be sure to make this thread longer than Colpy's Muslim hate thread, it isn't like I will have to invent anything.
 

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Can't even spot their own rabid dogs.
Addicted to War: Netanyahu boasting, ‘No one is immune to Israeli attacks’

There is nothing more dangerous than a cornered rat. The same could be said for a politician who thinks he’s losing the support of his people, and thus, about to lose power.



Israel’s Benjamin Netanyahu is facing the prospect of a close contest in the upcoming Israeli elections. To compensate for his failing approach to politics – increased defense spending, austerity, constant war and conflict, with absolutely no prospects for peace – the Israel leader is trying to start tertiary problems around him.

First he’s flying to the US to try and undermine the White House and further polarize existing partisan divisions in Washington – in a blatant attempt to disrupt the Iranian Peace Talks. Republican House leader John Boehner (R-OH) said in his statement that Netanyahu’s invitation to speak in Congress on Feb. 11th is a symbol of the ‘Washington’s unwavering commitment to the safety and security of Israel’.

In reality, Israel pays for that ‘unwavering’ commitment – by recycling US dollars back into the pockets of every US congressman and senator who runs for office via their own Washington DC-based political action committee AIPAC. In addition to AIPAC, there are other Israel lobby organizations who buy US politicians, as well as billionaire US-Israeli dual citizens like Sheldon Adelson. This is how Israel is able to warp US politics and foreign policy.

If that’s not enough, he’s also recently launched targeted assassinations of neighboring Lebanese Hezbollah militia fighters battling against ISIS in Syria. Why is Israel conducting airstrikes on behalf of ISIS in Syria?
 

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Yeah. Proper democracy. Something which Israel's Muslim enemies don't know the meaning of.
 

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By keeping food from the zoo? You are as moral dead as they are, no wonder you are like peas in a pod. What happened to the Mator that went to the mid-east to shoot some Muslims, what attack was he under that he had to defend himself and the 50 soldiers within 50 ft of him?
The repeat the lie until it is accepted as the truth doesn't work on me. You guys have starved enoug people into the grave so you should be familiar with the process or is that sort of stuff supposed to be a secret between the Jews and the Royals. Is that who has been directing your holy war against Muslims over the last 1400 years. I have a news flash for you, if you haven't won the war yet you never will.
 

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Lions should definitely stay away from the place.

https://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2...st-unfavourable-countries-in-the-world-today/

Israel ranks as one of the world’s most unfavorably viewed countries among the UK public, second only to North Korea.
A new survey by the UK think-tank Chatham House finds that 35 percent of the UK public have an “especially unfavorable” view of Israel.
This is double the 17 percent who held such a view during the previous survey in June 2012.
Only North Korea was viewed more unfavorably, at 47 percent. Thirty-three percent had an “especially unfavorable” view of Iran, and 28 percent held such a view of Pakistan, the next most unfavorably viewed countries.
By contrast, just six percent of the public had an “especially favorable” view of Israel – barely changed from five percent in 2012, putting Israel behind Japan, India, Brazil and South Africa.
Forty-four percent of survey respondents expressed an “especially favorable” view of Australia, with a similar number holding such a view of Canada.
What these numbers indicate is that the vast sums Israel has spent on propaganda or hasbara have made no dent in its unpopularity, while its continued occupation and repeated massacres in Gaza continue to affect public perceptions.
The fieldwork for the survey of a representative sample of more than two thousand people was conducted between 6-12 August 2014, at the height of the Israeli attack on Gaza that left more than 2,200 Palestinians dead.
The UK saw some of the largest rallies in Europe in support of Palestinians during the attack on Gaza.
 

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Not my problem. There are children sleeping under bridges in America. I'm concerned about them. There is only so much compassion in any individual heart. Spreading it around carelessly dilutes its strength.

Oh, btw, the Emperor Haile Selassie was the last Lion of Judah.
 

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This one was murdered about a week ago, when did your 'person' die. Hint one has two legs and the other has 4.

There are just as many homeless under the bridge when you leave as when you arrived, exactly what good are you doing? You have kids that look like the lion and that doesn't alter the path, the poor are mocked and spit on.

Can you find the lions home on this map? That is why God put this verse the way it is, it covers anybody in that particular area rather than it being about what group you belong to.

M't:24:16:
Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:


 
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Spawning doesn't require a known mate.

Can you prove fish experience grief? If so, do so.

Avian orders are advanced over fish on the scale of evolution.
Can you prove Geese don't? Want to see bored animals, go to any zoo, except the Israeli controlled one in Gaza. Apparently those beasts of burden need neither food or water and they do not suffer because of it or they would have not been abused right? Ever see a dog wag his tail when their caretaker shows up. A cougar would be licking his lips, one is instinct and the other is because a safe person is around.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...rrogant-think-were-the-only-animals-who-mourn
There is no doubt that many animals experience rich and deep emotions (link is external). It's not a matter of if emotions have evolved in animals but why they have evolved as they have. We must never forget that our emotions are the gifts of our ancestors, our animal kin. We have feelings and so do other animals.
Among the different emotions that animals display clearly and unambiguously is grief (link is external). Many animals display profound grief at the loss or absence of a close friend or loved one. Nobel laureate ethologist Konrad Lorenz writes: "A greylag goose that has lost its partner shows all the symptoms that [developmental psychologist] John Bowlby has described in young human children in his famous book Infant Grief . . . the eyes sink deep into their sockets, and the individual has an overall drooping experience, literally letting the head hang . . ." Sea lion mothers, watching their babies being eaten by killer whales, wail pitifully, anguishing their loss. Dolphins have been seen struggling to save a dead infant and mourn afterward. Stories about grief stricken companion animals abound (link is external); see also (link is external)).
Wild animals also grieve. Among the best examples are grieving rituals of elephants in the wild observed by such renowned researchers as Iain Douglas-Hamilton, Cynthia Moss and Joyce Poole (link is external). Captive elephants (link is external) also grieve; see also (link is external). To quote Joyce Poole: "As I watched Tonie´s vigil over her dead newborn, I got my first very strong feeling that elephants grieve. I will never forget the expression on her face, her eyes, her mouth, the way she carried her ears, her head, and her body. Every part of her spelled grief (link is external)". Young elephants who saw their mothers being killed often wake up screaming.

How to Identify Grief in Animals - Scientific American
In the July issue of Scientific American, anthropologist Barbara King of The College of William & Mary makes the case that animals ranging from ducks to dolphins may grieve when a relative or close companion dies. In so doing she departs from a long-standing tradition among animal behaviorists of assiduously avoiding projecting human emotions onto other animals. Not all animal responses to death qualify as mourning, however. King is careful to establish criteria for grief, noting that “researchers may strongly suspect grief only when certain conditions are met: First, two (or more) animals choose to spend time together beyond survival-oriented behaviors such as foraging or mating. Second, when one animal dies, the survivor alters his or her normal behavioral routine—perhaps reducing the amount of time devoted to eating or sleeping, adopting a body posture or facial expression indicative of depression or agitation, or generally failing to thrive.”



The fukers that intentionally cause the suffering need to be put out of business using any method possible, yesterday. All you are showing is what a brain-dead this place is as nobody but me is arguing that point yet a (must be fake) moral outrage in the 200 dog thread. It lasted how long, a day?
 
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This says it all about that "zoo" and who is ultimately responsible for these animals.


Khan Younis is one of five zoos in the Gaza Strip, a densely populated coastal enclave of 1.7million people ruled by Islamic Hamas militants.
With no government body in Gaza that oversees zoos, and no animal rights movement in the region, the Khan Younis facility is virtually unsupervised.
Care is basic. There is no zookeeper on the premises and medical treatment is done by consulting over the phone with zoo veterinarians in Egypt.
 

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Actually, that's not true. There are far more homeless today than when I arrived. But it's not my fault.
I was taking about an animal that has been abused past saving which is what you were referencing when you said you would kill it and eat it. Today a phone call to the authorities would get them there and they would take the needed action, be it saving or killing the cat.

Nice attempt at deflection and as you pass the homeless each day you will either get more detached or compassion will creep in and a bag of canned things might fall out of your cas as you pass by during their 'afternoon nap' time. It will be one or the other and you probably already know the answer. BTW if you were to become homeless you go to the back of the line and not the front. Then you get to actually observe first hand who has emotions for a stranger and who would kill you and roast you and eat you.

The topic is interesting, making you the 'detached' one isn't needed nor implied at any deeper level than it is at right now. I'll see if I can find a general profile about people who do cruel things to small animals as that would probably be part of the past of somebody who would starve caged animals or have any part in it and their food was controlled by the IDF and nobody else.

Boomer was saying that it would be good for each citizen take a two year course under the IDF mentality as it makes soldiers out of boys and a good part of that is making you into something that can kill without remorse, no matter who it is. That same mentality is emotional detachment but to replace it there is the 'collective mentality' where blanket approval is the main. That's fine if you are in a war but when not in a war the training should be to turn the emotionally detached soldier back into the emotionally charged boy that was there before as that is what society needs if the least important in society are to have something that is called a stress-less existence. With a bunch of emotionally detached people you will get the survival of the fittest and that never works out well for anybody in the long haul.
 

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The biggest enemy of the Palestinians is the Arab World. they want Palestine to be
the whipping boy who they want justice for so they can point at Israel ans say its all
their fault. The Palestinians could have broken ranks with more militant groups a
long time ago and made a deal, Egypt did a long time ago so the Palestinians could.
 

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This says it all about that "zoo" and who is ultimately responsible for these animals.


Khan Younis is one of five zoos in the Gaza Strip, a densely populated coastal enclave of 1.7million people ruled by Islamic Hamas militants.
With no government body in Gaza that oversees zoos, and no animal rights movement in the region, the Khan Younis facility is virtually unsupervised.
Care is basic. There is no zookeeper on the premises and medical treatment is done by consulting over the phone with zoo veterinarians in Egypt.
Gaza is fully controlled by the IDF and they are controlled by the current Government. There is nobody but them to blame, lock stock and barrel.

Flies buzz around the emaciated body of a lion as it decays in the sun; nearby the mummified corpse baboon lies on the ground- it's head still tilted up as though looking out of its enclosure, across from it a porcupine's brittle spines protrude from its lifeless body.
They are among the dozens of animals which have died at Khan Younis zoo in the impoverished Gaza Strip after they were left without food.
Zoo owner Mohammed Awaida has blamed the Palestinian and Israeli conflict for the tragedy- claiming it meant that staff were unable to feed or care properly for the animals at the zoo.



Mr Awaida said he opened the 'South Forest Park' in 2007, only to lose a number of animals during Israel's military offensive against Hamas that began in December 2008. During the three-week offensive, launched in response to rocket attacks on Israel, Awaida said he could not reach the zoo, and many animals died of neglect and starvation.
 

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Not my problem. There are children sleeping under bridges in America. I'm concerned about them. There is only so much compassion in any individual heart. Spreading it around carelessly dilutes its strength.
I somehow doubt the concern means much more than they better not slow you down. Compassion that is selective shows an tendency to put in a dividing line where some are cared and the rest can go fuk themselves. Most often it is skin color or financial status or in this living example a common core belief that your side is moral and upstanding and if you have any flaws they are overshadowed by the good you do.

Really? What a very telling phrase and it certainly shows that you support one part of society where you care about what happens to them and a flat-line for everyone else. That trait usually includes that your actions against 'them' is always fully justified while anything they do is usually condemned as it will invariably impact your world where you have to stop a certain practice and replace it by another one. It doesn't work that way, even you own side would pressure you to remain just as selective as you have admitted to.

You can't spread around what you don't have in the first place. Your version of compassion is a safety net where you feel accepted and not in danger of being abandoned and in return you reward 'the group' by accepting what they accept and rejecting what they reject while you and much of the group do what you are told because you follow policy you do not make it or influence it in any way shape or form.

http://symptomchecker.webmd.com/mul...otional-detachment&symptomids=440&locations=2
Emotional detachment

WebMD Symptom Checker helps you find the most common medical conditions indicated by the symptoms emotional detachment including Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and Obsessive compulsive personality disorder.
There are 2 conditions associated with emotional detachment. The links below will provide you with more detailed information on these medical conditions from the WebMD Symptom Checker and help provide a better understanding of causes and treatment of these related conditions.





These are not option side-effects theu come with the detachment package and it is a leaned behaviour meaning it can be unlearned but then the sheeple become thinking, caring people and the State doesn't want that to come after all their hard work of making the changes.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/work-matters/201007/the-fine-art-emotional-detachment

"Passion can make you too close to something. We all need to be able to step back and disconnect. In order to see flaws in the plan, respect the input of others, and maintain an open mind, a little indifference can go a long way. One other thing, too many disrespectful actions are explained away by passion. It’s as if passion can be the get-out-of-being-called-a-jerk-free card. Passion is NOT a license to steam roll everyone in your path!"

Passion is the only thing that lets you get close to something. It also calls for expressing whatever emotion it inspires. Currently the elite are allowed to feel and express outrage at whatever they want, a right that is condemned when others express it as a reaction to what the elite are doing that affects their lives.

(from link)
"The first reason stems from human cognitive limits. As we all know, and as modern psychology has shown in gory detail, human beings can do a limited number of things at once, and even the best "multi-taskers" in the world are doomed to fail if they try to do too many things at once. So if you try to put all your emotional and physical effort into everything you do, you will end do everything badly. Indifference is a key survival skill as there are some things you may need to do, but are so unimportant that not caring as you travel through them is the best answer. And indifference can also help you sidestep things that seem important, but really aren't, allowing you to focus on the few things that really matter."


Start at the bolded part and every word after that is bull**** as far as having a thinking person as the end result. You are told to care about nothing but what you are told is important. Wow, no wonder the West is so fuked.

The West Is Incapable of Taking Responsibility for Its Errors - Russia Insider
The West Is Incapable of Taking Responsibility for Its Errors

The inflated self-worth of Western states makes theme particularly prone to blame their failures on external factors


The Fundamental Attribution Error describes our tendency to attribute our own practical and moral failures to external factors while attributing other people’s failures to their personal character. Conversely, we attribute our successes and good deeds to our own character, and others’ successes to some external factor.
If we succeed, it is because we are skillful, and if we do good, it is because we are good people. If we do something wrong, it is because something outside our control, and which we could not have predicted, intervened to prevent our otherwise sensible and good plan from succeeding.
By contrast, if others succeed, it is because they are lucky, and if they fail, it is because they are incompetent or evil.
For instance, once it became clear that the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq had gone disastrously wrong, its supporters did not acknowledge their aggressive instincts, bad judgment, or any other internal characteristic, but rather blamed external factors for their mistake:

  • ‘Saddam lied about weapons of mass destruction, and so it was perfectly reasonable for us to be mistaken about them’;
  • ‘Nobody could have known that those in charge of the operation would have been so incompetent’;
  • 'Iraq turned out to be in a much worse state than we could possibly have predicted’; and so on.


By contrast, when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, we attributed its actions to the evil character of Saddam Hussein. We dismissed as irrelevant external factors which might help to explain Saddam’s actions, such as misinterpreting American signals about what was permissible, or genuine grievances about Kuwait’s behaviour.


That bolded part is about the slant drilling charges that get buried when the West's version is considered.
 
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Can you prove Geese don't? Want to see bored animals, go to any zoo, except the Israeli controlled one in Gaza. Apparently those beasts of burden need neither food or water and they do not suffer because of it or they would have not been abused right? Ever see a dog wag his tail when their caretaker shows up. A cougar would be licking his lips, one is instinct and the other is because a safe person is around.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...rrogant-think-were-the-only-animals-who-mourn
There is no doubt that many animals experience rich and deep emotions (link is external). It's not a matter of if emotions have evolved in animals but why they have evolved as they have. We must never forget that our emotions are the gifts of our ancestors, our animal kin. We have feelings and so do other animals.
Among the different emotions that animals display clearly and unambiguously is grief (link is external). Many animals display profound grief at the loss or absence of a close friend or loved one. Nobel laureate ethologist Konrad Lorenz writes: "A greylag goose that has lost its partner shows all the symptoms that [developmental psychologist] John Bowlby has described in young human children in his famous book Infant Grief . . . the eyes sink deep into their sockets, and the individual has an overall drooping experience, literally letting the head hang . . ." Sea lion mothers, watching their babies being eaten by killer whales, wail pitifully, anguishing their loss. Dolphins have been seen struggling to save a dead infant and mourn afterward. Stories about grief stricken companion animals abound (link is external); see also (link is external)).
Wild animals also grieve. Among the best examples are grieving rituals of elephants in the wild observed by such renowned researchers as Iain Douglas-Hamilton, Cynthia Moss and Joyce Poole (link is external). Captive elephants (link is external) also grieve; see also (link is external). To quote Joyce Poole: "As I watched Tonie´s vigil over her dead newborn, I got my first very strong feeling that elephants grieve. I will never forget the expression on her face, her eyes, her mouth, the way she carried her ears, her head, and her body. Every part of her spelled grief (link is external)". Young elephants who saw their mothers being killed often wake up screaming.

How to Identify Grief in Animals - Scientific American
In the July issue of Scientific American, anthropologist Barbara King of The College of William & Mary makes the case that animals ranging from ducks to dolphins may grieve when a relative or close companion dies. In so doing she departs from a long-standing tradition among animal behaviorists of assiduously avoiding projecting human emotions onto other animals. Not all animal responses to death qualify as mourning, however. King is careful to establish criteria for grief, noting that “researchers may strongly suspect grief only when certain conditions are met: First, two (or more) animals choose to spend time together beyond survival-oriented behaviors such as foraging or mating. Second, when one animal dies, the survivor alters his or her normal behavioral routine—perhaps reducing the amount of time devoted to eating or sleeping, adopting a body posture or facial expression indicative of depression or agitation, or generally failing to thrive.”



The fukers that intentionally cause the suffering need to be put out of business using any method possible, yesterday. All you are showing is what a brain-dead this place is as nobody but me is arguing that point yet a (must be fake) moral outrage in the 200 dog thread. It lasted how long, a day?

Don't anthropomorphize fish. I recommend Carl Sagan's tome Dragon's of Eden for your perusal.

I somehow doubt the concern means much more than they better not slow you down. Compassion that is selective shows an tendency to put in a dividing line where some are cared and the rest can go fuk themselves. Most often it is skin color or financial status or in this living example a common core belief that your side is moral and upstanding and if you have any flaws they are overshadowed by the good you do.

Really? What a very telling phrase and it certainly shows that you support one part of society where you care about what happens to them and a flat-line for everyone else. That trait usually includes that your actions against 'them' is always fully justified while anything they do is usually condemned as it will invariably impact your world where you have to stop a certain practice and replace it by another one. It doesn't work that way, even you own side would pressure you to remain just as selective as you have admitted to.

You can't spread around what you don't have in the first place. Your version of compassion is a safety net where you feel accepted and not in danger of being abandoned and in return you reward 'the group' by accepting what they accept and rejecting what they reject while you and much of the group do what you are told because you follow policy you do not make it or influence it in any way shape or form.

Emotional detachment: Common Related Medical Conditions
Emotional detachment

WebMD Symptom Checker helps you find the most common medical conditions indicated by the symptoms emotional detachment including Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and Obsessive compulsive personality disorder.
There are 2 conditions associated with emotional detachment. The links below will provide you with more detailed information on these medical conditions from the WebMD Symptom Checker and help provide a better understanding of causes and treatment of these related conditions.





These are not option side-effects theu come with the detachment package and it is a leaned behaviour meaning it can be unlearned but then the sheeple become thinking, caring people and the State doesn't want that to come after all their hard work of making the changes.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/work-matters/201007/the-fine-art-emotional-detachment

"Passion can make you too close to something. We all need to be able to step back and disconnect. In order to see flaws in the plan, respect the input of others, and maintain an open mind, a little indifference can go a long way. One other thing, too many disrespectful actions are explained away by passion. It’s as if passion can be the get-out-of-being-called-a-jerk-free card. Passion is NOT a license to steam roll everyone in your path!"

Passion is the only thing that lets you get close to something. It also calls for expressing whatever emotion it inspires. Currently the elite are allowed to feel and express outrage at whatever they want, a right that is condemned when others express it as a reaction to what the elite are doing that affects their lives.

(from link)
"The first reason stems from human cognitive limits. As we all know, and as modern psychology has shown in gory detail, human beings can do a limited number of things at once, and even the best "multi-taskers" in the world are doomed to fail if they try to do too many things at once. So if you try to put all your emotional and physical effort into everything you do, you will end do everything badly. Indifference is a key survival skill as there are some things you may need to do, but are so unimportant that not caring as you travel through them is the best answer. And indifference can also help you sidestep things that seem important, but really aren't, allowing you to focus on the few things that really matter."


Start at the bolded part and every word after that is bull**** as far as having a thinking person as the end result. You are told to care about nothing but what you are told is important. Wow, no wonder the West is so fuked.

The West Is Incapable of Taking Responsibility for Its Errors - Russia Insider
The West Is Incapable of Taking Responsibility for Its Errors

The inflated self-worth of Western states makes theme particularly prone to blame their failures on external factors


The Fundamental Attribution Error describes our tendency to attribute our own practical and moral failures to external factors while attributing other people’s failures to their personal character. Conversely, we attribute our successes and good deeds to our own character, and others’ successes to some external factor.
If we succeed, it is because we are skillful, and if we do good, it is because we are good people. If we do something wrong, it is because something outside our control, and which we could not have predicted, intervened to prevent our otherwise sensible and good plan from succeeding.
By contrast, if others succeed, it is because they are lucky, and if they fail, it is because they are incompetent or evil.
For instance, once it became clear that the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq had gone disastrously wrong, its supporters did not acknowledge their aggressive instincts, bad judgment, or any other internal characteristic, but rather blamed external factors for their mistake:

  • ‘Saddam lied about weapons of mass destruction, and so it was perfectly reasonable for us to be mistaken about them’;
  • ‘Nobody could have known that those in charge of the operation would have been so incompetent’;
  • 'Iraq turned out to be in a much worse state than we could possibly have predicted’; and so on.


By contrast, when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, we attributed its actions to the evil character of Saddam Hussein. We dismissed as irrelevant external factors which might help to explain Saddam’s actions, such as misinterpreting American signals about what was permissible, or genuine grievances about Kuwait’s behaviour.


That bolded part is about the slant drilling charges that get buried when the West's version is considered.

Incoherence is not a virtue.

Talk is cheap. Action has real meaning. There are many people who live under a roof today, and many folks who own their own homes today because of my charitable actions. I've organized separate charitable tax exempt foundations to fight homelessness and to help people get into their own homes. I've fundraised for these charities. I've touched many lives in positive ways. What have you done?