So, everyone was right.

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What those soldiers were suffering from were the residual leftovers of the chemical weapons that had been destroyed by the Iraqui regime years prior, as they had originally claimed.

There was NO stockpile and NO weapons program of biological, chemical or nuclear weapons that the Bush administration concocted to justify the invasion

All this doesn't change the fact that GW Bush was a lying, incompetent numskull when he claimed these formed a clear and present danger to the world.

Now that Iraq has fallen into utter chaos as a direct result of the American invasion and subsequent mismanagement of the 'occupation'.. you have to reflect on what a complete fiasco the Bush regime was.. economically, domestically, externally, politically.. everything just fell apart.

It has to rank amongst the most floundering, futile and disingenuous administrations in U.S. history.
 
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Walter, of course there were WMD's in Iraq. Saddam even made a detailed list and sent it to the UN. The US got hold of it first removed 100's of pages which would be inventory the US had supplied to him, not only recently but for the whole Iran/Iraq war so the gassing that went on was done with US materials and US direction as Saddam was their puppet in that war. You missed mentioning that part Walter, glad to help you clear up that important omission.

You do bring up a good point though, for the time the US was looking for them and couldn't find them they should be told to stay home next time as inefficiency on the battleground is dangerous to friends more than the enemy.
 

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ISIS now has possession of some of the WMD. ISIS is also flying fighter and attack aircraft captured at the Syrian airbase that fell to the Fuzzy Wuzzies a few weeks ago. Air Force defectors are flying the aircraft. What do you think is going to happen? Which way is the wind blowing?
 

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Anyone who believes Saddam never had W.M.D.s - I have a lovely piece of ocean front property for sale at the north end of Ellesmere Island! -:)
 

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Anyone who believes Saddam never had W.M.D.s - I have a lovely piece of ocean front property for sale at the north end of Ellesmere Island! -:)

Better hang on to that. According to the drama queens that will be the new Florida. Next year. Or maybe the year after. Or...... But anyway it is coming.
 

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Those who were against Bush at the time will never believe otherwise, no matter what evidence is brought forth.....
Ideologues can never be convinced of anything outside their ideology....
 

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Those who were against Bush at the time will never believe otherwise, no matter what evidence is brought forth.....
Ideologues can never be convinced of anything outside their ideology....


You hit the nail on the head, Sleepy!
(Just like the abortion advocates, they will never admit to ANY downsides)! -:)
 

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Walter, of course there were WMD's in Iraq. Saddam even made a detailed list and sent it to the UN. The US got hold of it first removed 100's of pages which would be inventory the US had supplied to him, not only recently but for the whole Iran/Iraq war so the gassing that went on was done with US materials and US direction as Saddam was their puppet in that war. You missed mentioning that part Walter, glad to help you clear up that important omission.

You do bring up a good point though, for the time the US was looking for them and couldn't find them they should be told to stay home next time as inefficiency on the battleground is dangerous to friends more than the enemy.

Sources??

And please, not the Tinfoil Tophat Daily.
 

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Hmm, reading the article paints a slightly different picture than your liberal thread title:
The United States had gone to war declaring it must destroy an active weapons of mass destruction program. Instead, American troops gradually found and ultimately suffered from the remnants of long-abandoned programs, built in close collaboration with the West.​

So no, not everyone was right. What's worse, despicable even:
The New York Times found 17 American service members and seven Iraqi police officers who were exposed to nerve or mustard agents after 2003. American officials said that the actual tally of exposed troops was slightly higher, but that the government’s official count was classified.

The secrecy fit a pattern. Since the outset of the war, the scale of the United States’ encounters with chemical weapons in Iraq was neither publicly shared nor widely circulated within the military. These encounters carry worrisome implications now that the Islamic State, a Qaeda splinter group, controls much of the territory where the weapons were found.

The American government withheld word about its discoveries even from troops it sent into harm’s way and from military doctors. The government’s secrecy, victims and participants said, prevented troops in some of the war’s most dangerous jobs from receiving proper medical care and official recognition of their wounds.​
 

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Actually during the Iraq/Iran war the United States provided satellite images of Iranian troop
movements several times Saddam was their guy until he went his own way. Ever come to
mind why America never made the WMD public if they were there it would have been a
major justification. Even if they found some weapons of mass destruction they could have
made a point.
The problem is if they left Saddam in Iraq we wouldn't have the trouble we have now. He was
not a nice man but he was not as bad as the mess we have.
 

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. . . if they were there it would have been a
major justification. .
Why whitewash it with the 'if' part, Iraq had gas and chemical weapons (supplied by the US, the UK and France) and they were intentionally used against Iran for the whole war. The war against Iran was over kicking the US out. Sugar coat it all you want but the facts stand, Saddam did nothing wrong until he believed the US when they said that Kuwait would be viewed as an internal matter.
Do you start off with the wrong facts or just change the real ones over to what you are comfortable with?

Walter, don't you like the West and Israel hooking up with Muslims?
 
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Legacy of Chemical Weapons in Iraq Compounds Lies and Failures of US Invasion | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community
However, according to the Times, because those "abandoned" weapons dated back to the 1980's—when the U.S. and other western nations were acting as an ally to Iraq and supplying weapons and chemical agents to Hussein during his war against Iran—U.S. troops who ultimately came across these weapons and were ordered to destroy them were told to remain quiet about what they'd encountered, even as it put their own health and those of others in grave danger.

“They needed something to say that after Sept. 11 Saddam used chemical rounds,” Jarrod Lampier, a recently retired Army major who was present for the largest chemical weapons discovery of the war, told the Times. His unit, he says, found more than 2,400 nerve-agent rockets unearthed in 2006 at a former Republican Guard compound, but said, “all of this was from the pre-1991 era.”

Nice fail walter. BTW I hope you get a blister on that finger you use to give out the reds. (do you really think that does anything to the poster?)
 
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Why whitewash it with the 'if' part, Iraq had gas and chemical weapons (supplied by the US, the UK and France) and they were intentionally used against Iran for the whole war. The war against Iran was over kicking the US out. Sugar coat it all you want but the facts stand, Saddam did nothing wrong until he believed the US when they said that Kuwait would be viewed as an internal matter.
Do you start off with the wrong facts or just change the real ones over to what you are comfortable with?

Walter, don't you like the West and Israel hooking up with Muslims?


How about murdering 30,000 of his citizens annually? So which facts stand besides he was an A$$hole?
 

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What was found was negligible. Does not substantiate the Bush argument of WMD.
Kerist, who would buy into this as proof?
 

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Post up the article, the gassing that come up are during the war with Iran. The US was running Saddam so whatever he did it was at their direction as it was there war against Iran rather than Saddam's war.

The US murdered 500,000 by sanctions, I don't see you bitching about that of Muslim death only count when is supports your agenda.

As for the bull that goes along with most US published stories.

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  • But even Hussein's brutality against his own people has been greatly exaggerated by our government, purely for propaganda purposes. Bush officials never tire of repeating the following stories as justification for their policy:
    1. Hussein gassed his own people.
    2. Hussein tried to assassinate George Bush, Sr.
    3. Hussein's soldiers took babies out of incubators during the invasion of Kuwait.
These stories make for great propaganda, but none of them are true, and the Bush administration knows it.
Saddam Hussein did not gas his own people.

Supposedly Hussein gassed Iraqi Kurds at Halabja in March 1988 during the closing days of the Iran-Iraq war. But it isn't true. In 1990, the U.S. government found that the Kurds died by cyanide gas. It was the Iranians who used cyanide, while the Iraqis used mustard gas. This means it was the Iranians who accidentally killed the Kurds during battle. Hussein had nothing to do with it. (Source: Army War College, Stephen Pelletier & colleague)

In a related lie, Hussein is also said to have committed genocide in August 1988, killing 100,000 Iraqi Kurds with machine guns, then burying them in mass graves. U.S. intelligence services have uniformly dismissed this story. According to Stephen Pelletier of the U.S. Army War College, no such mass graves have ever been found because none exist. The incident never happened. Human Rights Watch, which originally reported the story, has since retracted it, but the lie lives on.

  • But even Hussein's brutality against his own people has been greatly exaggerated by our government, purely for propaganda purposes. Bush officials never tire of repeating the following stories as justification for their policy:
    1. Hussein gassed his own people.
    2. Hussein tried to assassinate George Bush, Sr.
    3. Hussein's soldiers took babies out of incubators during the invasion of Kuwait.
These stories make for great propaganda, but none of them are true, and the Bush administration knows it.
Saddam Hussein did not gas his own people.

Supposedly Hussein gassed Iraqi Kurds at Halabja in March 1988 during the closing days of the Iran-Iraq war. But it isn't true. In 1990, the U.S. government found that the Kurds died by cyanide gas. It was the Iranians who used cyanide, while the Iraqis used mustard gas. This means it was the Iranians who accidentally killed the Kurds during battle. Hussein had nothing to do with it. (Source: Army War College, Stephen Pelletier & colleague)

In a related lie, Hussein is also said to have committed genocide in August 1988, killing 100,000 Iraqi Kurds with machine guns, then burying them in mass graves. U.S. intelligence services have uniformly dismissed this story. According to Stephen Pelletier of the U.S. Army War College, no such mass graves have ever been found because none exist. The incident never happened. Human Rights Watch, which originally reported the story, has since retracted it, but the lie lives on.

What was found was negligible. Does not substantiate the Bush argument of WMD.
Kerist, who would buy into this as proof?
Walter and anybody else who wants to keep the illusion that the US is on a white horse.
 

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