Kerry tells N Korea to get "real"


mentalfloss
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Kerry tells N Korea to get "real"

SEOUL: US Secretary of State John Kerry on Thursday welcomed new high-level talks between North and South Korea, while warning Pyongyang against trying to derail an upcoming South Korea-US military exercise.

Kerry, in Seoul to discuss North Korea's nuclear programme at the start of an Asia tour, stressed the US would never accept the North as a nuclear state and that it would not be drawn into "talks for talks' sake" with Pyongyang.

"We've been through that exercise previously, we want to know that this is real," he said, adding North Korea had to take "meaningful action" towards denuclearisation before a dialogue could begin.

At the same time, he voiced full support for South Korean President Park Geun-hye's efforts to build trust with the North, and welcomed a recent diplomatic initiative that saw the rival Koreas meet Wednesday for their highest-level talks in seven years.

A second round of discussions is scheduled for Friday, with North Korea pushing the South to postpone its annual military exercises with the US until after a planned reunion from February 20-25 of family members separated by the Korean War.

The drills are slated to begin February 24 and Seoul is refusing to consider a postponement -- a stance that Kerry made clear had Washington's backing.

Kerry said the reunion was a purely humanitarian issue and there was "no legitimate excuse" for linking it to the military exercises that take place every year.

North Korea should act out of "human decency" and not try and use "one (issue) as an excuse to somehow condition the other", he added.

Last year's joint exercises fuelled an unusually sharp and protracted surge in military tensions, with Pyongyang threatening a pre-emptive nuclear strike, and nuclear-capable US stealth bombers making dummy runs over the Korean peninsula.

North Korea views the drills as a rehearsal for invasion, and has repeatedly demanded their permanent cancellation.

The United States has around 28,000 troops stationed in South Korea.

Under its defence agreement with Washington, South Korea is protected by the US nuclear umbrella and the United States would assume overall operational command of joint US and South Korean forces if a full-scale war with the North broke out.

China has "unique and critical" role
Kerry's Asia tour will take him on Friday to China -- North Korea's only major ally -- where he indicated he would push Beijing to do more to rein in Pyongyang's nuclear ambitions.

"China has a unique and critical role it can play... and no country has a greater potential to influence North Korea," he said, praising moves by Beijing last year to help reduce tensions after Pyongyang carried out another nuclear test.

Kerry's visit comes ahead of an Asia tour in April by President Barack Obama, which will take place in Japan and South Korea -- the two main US military allies in the region.

Ties between Seoul and Tokyo are at their lowest ebb for many years, causing concern in Washington which feels the three allies must maintain a united front -- particularly on the issue of North Korea.

Japan's 1910-45 colonial rule over the Korean peninsula remains a hugely emotive issue in South Korea, which feels successive Japanese governments have failed to apologise properly or atone for abuses during the period.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's visit to a controversial war shrine in December was angrily denounced by Seoul.

Kerry urged both countries to try and put the past "history behind them," saying it was "critical" to maintain "robust trilateral cooperation".

But South Korean Foreign Minister Yun Byung-se reiterated that Japan must "take appropriate measures to improve the situation."

President Park came to office a year ago promising greater engagement with Pyongyang, and Wednesday's talks had raised hopes the two sides might be ready to embark on a genuine trust-building dialogue.

But South Korea remains wary of the impoverished North's intentions, suggesting that its only real desire is to see the resumption of several lucrative cross-border projects.

Kerry tells N Korea to get "real" - Channel NewsAsia (external - login to view)
 
WLDB
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ha. Thats like telling Charles Manson to go out and be a law abiding productive citizen. It just isnt going to work.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDBView Post

ha. Thats like telling Charles Manson to go out and be a law abiding productive citizen. It just isnt going to work.

Yep, I was thinking of an apt response but yours is better.
 
damngrumpy
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Dennis Rodman could get them all to play basketball and things will be fine
 
Liberalman
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Thanks to Kerry more nukes will be pointed at North America
 
mentalfloss
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If he can get China to help it would be a huge diplomatic victory.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

If he can get China to help it would be a huge diplomatic victory.

Why? Chinese figger Koreans are a bunch of useless half breeds and want nothing to do with them.
 
mentalfloss
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Well there is some clout if they have a powerful ally.

It's how that is the real question, imo.

Kerry meets China's Xi amid heightened Asia tensions - TOI Mobile | The Times of India Mobile Site (external - login to view)
 
Locutus
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Gives johnny something to do. He looks busy. Stays in 'the news'. Stays um, 'relevant' I guess.
 
petros
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Which ally would that be?
 
mentalfloss
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China.

Would you think an alliance with them is just window dressing?
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

China.

Would you think an alliance with them is just window dressing?

If NK and China were allies NK would be industrialized a loooong time ago.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

If NK and China were allies NK would be industrialized a loooong time ago.

I'm pretty sure China already tolerates NK because of some capital arrangement.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

I'm pretty sure China already tolerates NK because of some capital arrangement.

North Korea is no ally of China. If it were NATO would have put a kybosh to this malarkey decades ago when China was weak.

NK cuts China off from doing Japan in once and for all. Who do you think that would make for their strongest ally?

China is working with everyone else to starve them out but they have different motives that go back to when the first seaworthy boat in Asia was built.
 
BaalsTears
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

If he can get China to help it would be a huge diplomatic victory.

China's geopolitical interest is in keeping the US off balance. Maintenance of the DPRK and its nuclear program are consistent with China's interest on the Korean Peninsula. China may speak soothing words, but China will not act in a manner which isn't consistent with its national interest.

The Korean Worker's Party which runs the DPRK is composed of factions. One of those factions is the pro-China faction. Through that faction and its material support for the Norks the Chinese maintain significant leverage with the DPRK. China has significant economic interests in N. Korean natural resources. The only way the Chinese would permit the North Koreans to go down and reunification to occur is if the resulting unified Korean polity became a Chinese satellite.
 
petros
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https://www.google.ca/maps/dir//Kras....4362582?hl=en (external - login to view)
 
Nuggler
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The last time NK got real they fought everyone (with China's help) to a standstill.


Careful what you wish for Mr. Kerry.
 
petros
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Stalin Jr. (Putin) has reasons to be involved as well.
 
BaalsTears
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The Russians do have interests in the DPRK, but not the money to fund those interests. If the DPRK collapses an entire corp of the PLA will move into NK to protect its interests. Interesting times.
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by LiberalmanView Post

Thanks to Kerry more nukes will be pointed at North America

One from North Korea? It couldnt even get to Japan much less North America.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

The Russians do have interests in the DPRK, but not the money to fund those interests. If the DPRK collapses an entire corp of the PLA will move into NK to protect its interests. Interesting times.

It's about what Japan and S Korea are desperate for. NG
 
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