Falkland Islanders cast their votes in sovereignty referendum


Blackleaf
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The people of the Falkland Islands are today voting in a referendum on their sovereignty. They are choosing whether to remain British, become Argentinian or become a completely independent nation. The result is to be announced tonight and it is thought the islands - which are the size of Northern Ireland and are still littered with landmines in some places from the 1982 war between Britain and Argentina - will vote overwhelmingly to remain British:


Deal with it: Argentina's aggressive stance has galvanised and cemented patriotic fervour on the islands

Falkland Islanders started voting yesterday in a sovereignty referendum seeking to counter Argentina’s claim over the British-ruled territory.

Diplomatic tension between Britain and Argentina has flared more than three decades after the Falklands War.

Falklands-born and long-term residents will cast ballots on whether they want to stay a British Overseas Territory.


Choice: People line up to cast their vote on the islands' future at the Town Hall polling station in the Falklands capital of Stanley


Wonder how he'll vote? One islander make his allegiance clear with a Union Flag suit as he casts his vote

A high turnout is expected from among the islands’ population of roughly 2,500, and officials are due to announce the result tonight.

An overwhelming 'yes’ vote is likely, prompting Argentina to dismiss the referendum as a publicity stunt.

But John Fowler, deputy editor of the islands’ weekly newspaper, the Penguin News, said: 'We hope the undecideds, or the uninformeds, or those countries that might otherwise be prepared to give the nod to Argentina’s sovereignty claim, might have pause for thought after the referendum.

'This is an attempt to say 'hang on a minute, there’s another side to the story'.'


The Falkland Islands Government has mobilised a major effort to get as many of its 1,650 registered voters as possible to cast their secret ballots today and tomorrow


A long convoy of vehicles bearing British flags and stickers in favour of keeping the Falkland Islands as an overseas territory of the United Kingdom. One vehicle even had the words "Leeds United" emblazoned on the side.

People queued to vote at the town hall in the capital Stanley, nearly 8,000 miles from London, where posters proclaim: 'Our Islands, Our Choice’.

'I have no wish to be part of Argentina,’ said Rob McGill, 67, of isolated Carcass Island, who voted by post.

'I consider myself a Falkland Islander, but my ancestors came from Britain,' he said.

The post office produced a line of official stamps to mark the occasion.

In distant islands and far-flung sheep farms, ballot papers were being flown and driven in by mobile polling stations.


Poll: Resident Terry Spruce stands waiting for his turn to vote outside a polling station in Port Stanley


United: A couple arrives with a pram covered with the Union Jack to cast their vote

Some islanders are the descendants of British settlers who arrived eight or nine generations ago and the Falklands retain an unmistakably British character despite a sizeable community of immigrants from Chile and Saint Helena.

Residents say fiery remarks by Argentine President Cristina Fernandez and her foreign minister, Hector Timerman, have galvanised patriotic sentiment on the islands, which lie nearly 8,000 miles from London and just a 75-minute flight away from southern Argentina.


Patriot: Falkland Islands flags, featuring a British flag, were seen all over Stanley in a show of support


British and proud: Falkland Islander Vivian Vienna (left) shows off a t-shirt that removes Argentina from South America as she lines up to cast her vote. Joan Turner (right) wore a dress with the colours of the Falkland Islands flag


Read more: Falkland Islanders cast their vote on British identity while Buenos Aires brushes off historic referendum as 'publicity stunt' | Mail Online
Last edited by Blackleaf; Mar 11th, 2013 at 12:02 PM..
 
darkbeaver
Republican
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The place is tiny it's not like India is voting is it? Argentina will always be there, waiting, meanwhile the UK becomes a leader in New Ice Age research.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

The place is tiny it's not like India is voting is it? Argentina will always be there, waiting, meanwhile the UK becomes a leader in New Ice Age research.

It doesn't matter how many people are on the islands. JUst because there are just a few thousands of them doesn't mean they have no right to decide their nation's status.

If they vote overwhelmingly to remain British - which they will - then it will send out a powerful message to the world.

It'll also show to the UN that the Argentines are in the wrong because UN law states that people in Overseas Territories like the Falklands are the ones who will decide their sovereignty status and therefore this referendum will show that the Argies have no case whatsoever.
 
damngrumpy
No Party Affiliation
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The people should decide their own way of life and I doubt they will decide to leave
British Tradition. Self determination is the way of democracy so what is the bit deal?
Yes the South American neighbour will always be there but they got a taste of what
happens when they declare conflict back in 82 and they may think twice before doing
it again.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Argentina will always be there, waiting, meanwhile the UK becomes a leader in New Ice Age research.

Oh brother.
 
Spade
Free Thinker
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Only one island is inhabited; there is room for compromise with the Argentinians.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Only one island is inhabited; there is room for compromise with the Argentinians.

These islands are the Falkland Islands, a country. Why should the Falklanders hand over parts of their nation to a foreign power?

If you are so concerned why don't you petition the Canadian Government to give the Argies Devon Island, the world's biggest uninhabited island, slightly larger than Denmark?

My country must respect the wishes of the Falkland Islanders: A week before the historic referendum, the last view you would expect to hear from an Argentine Falklands War veteran: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2NGOZV8V9

Last edited by Blackleaf; Mar 11th, 2013 at 03:05 PM..
 
Spade
Free Thinker
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Correction: a colony not a country.
 
Colpy
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Only one island is inhabited; there is room for compromise with the Argentinians.

No compromise.

No negotiation.

No surrender.

Rule Britannia.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

It doesn't matter how many people are on the islands. JUst because there are just a few thousands of them doesn't mean they have no right to decide their nation's status.

If they vote overwhelmingly to remain British - which they will - then it will send out a powerful message to the world.

It'll also show to the UN that the Argentines are in the wrong because UN law states that people in Overseas Territories like the Falklands are the ones who will decide their sovereignty status and therefore this referendum will show that the Argies have no case whatsoever.

The UN has failed to make that distinction many times in the recent past, certainly you can understand the meaninglessness of UN sanctioned and supported freedom. Ask an Iraqi or a Syrian or an Iranian or a Congolese. The UN is nothing if not a front for the Zionist Empire. UKers will sooner or later become interested in their own real lack of freedoms maybe soon enough to save their idiot selves. What measure of UK power is this little exercise in the south atlantic? Nothing at all except a bit of splash on the telly.
 
EagleSmack
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Measure this...

 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Measure this...

Is that a shot of the Argentinian army being circumcised?
 
Colpy
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Measure this...

FN FALs, all to be destroyed.

Are you trying to make me cry???



Should have handed one out to every islander.

Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Correction: a colony not a country.

Correction: an overseas territory, not a colony.

Colonies usually don't get to freely choose independence if they wish........
 
darkbeaver
Republican
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Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

FN FALs, all to be destroyed.

Are you trying to make me cry???



Should have handed one out to every islander.



Correction: an overseas territory, not a colony.

Colonies usually don't get to freely choose independence if they wish........

A colony needs people a territory only needs rough borders. The importance of the colony has been officially defined, the voters are isolated pawns.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Is that a shot of the Argentinian army being circumcised?

A little more than that.
 
damngrumpy
No Party Affiliation
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When it comes to international territory and boarder or jurisdictional disputes
there can be no compromises, that is the world of political life
 
bill barilko
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What the present day inhabits want or don't want counts for nothing-never has never will.
 
Colpy
Conservative
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According to the CBC, all votes counted.

1500 votes for staying a British Overseas Territory.

3 votes for other options
 
Blackleaf
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There were 1,517 votes cast in the referendum. Of those 1,517, 1,513 people voted to remain British. Just 3 people voted against it. One vote went missing, but the result is so overwhelming for those who want to remain British that they've decided not to have a recount.

That means that 99.8% of the Falkland Islanders, who are British citizens, wish to remain British. And the turnout was a whopping 92%, so the Argies will not even be able to argue that the turnout was so low that the result is meaningless.

Following the vote British Foreign Secretary William Hague said: 'I welcome the result, which demonstrates more clearly than ever the Falkland Islanders' wish to remain an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom.

'We have always been clear that we believe in the rights of the Falklands people to determine their own futures and to decide on the path they wish to take. It is only right that, in the 21st century, these rights are respected.

'All countries should accept the results of this referendum and support the Falkland Islanders as they continue to develop their home and their economy. I wish them every success in doing so.'

And if the Argies still don't respect the Falkland Islanders' views then there are some RAF Typhoons and Royal Navy Daring-class destroyers - the world's most powerful air defence destroyers - at the islands which might make the Argies change their minds.

Read more: Falkland Islands vote to remain a part of Britain (and only three ballot papers disagreed) | Mail Online


Jubilant: Falkland Islanders cheer after hearing the results of the referendum to remain part of Britain


Rule Britannia: Falkland Islanders sing and celebrate as their referendum result sends a message to Argentina that they want to remain part of Britain


Waiting up: Residents waited outside capital Port Stanley's town hall to hear the results as they were announced shortly before 2am this morning


Our Islands, our choice: Nearly all of the residents of the Falkland Islands voting in a referendum chose to remain a British overseas territory



Campaign: Islanders take part in the 'Proud to be British' parade along Ross Road in Port Stanley yesterday


Voting day: A local resident participates in a vehicle parade to show their support for voting yes to Britain in the referendum

Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Correction: a colony not a country.

For all intents and purposes, the Falklands are a country. They are not a British colony.

Since 2002, they have been a British Overseas Territory (between 1981 and 2002 all British Overseas Territories were known as British Dependent Territories and, before 1981, they were known as Crown colonies). They are almost completely independent and have their own government elected by Falkland Islanders. The islands are not run by the British Government. Britain is merely responsible for the Falklands Islands' defence and foreign affairs and ensuring that it has good government.

Britain has 14 Overseas Territories:

Akrotiri and Dhekelia; Anguilla; Bermuda; British Antarctic Territory; British Indian Ocean Territory; British Virgin Islands; Cayman Islands; Falkland Islands; Gibraltar; Montserrat; Pitcairn Islands; Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha; South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands; and Turks and Caicos Islands.
Last edited by Blackleaf; Mar 12th, 2013 at 05:15 AM..
 
Highball
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The smartest move these residents could make ids to stay under the Aegis of the Crown. Argentina is almost bankrupt and would raid whatever resources this group of Islands area has for the use on their mainland. They have little in common.
 
bill barilko
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One way or the other Argentine will one day occupy Las Islas Malvinas.

The most Briddish part of the so-called 'Falkland Islands' is the propensity for crooked & stained teeth-see pics as linked for details.
 
Colpy
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by bill barilkoView Post

One way or the other Argentine will one day occupy Las Islas Malvinas.

The most Briddish part of the so-called 'Falkland Islands' is the propensity for crooked & stained teeth-see pics as linked for details.

The most British part of the islands is the blood shed by British Royal Marines defending their people from the fascism of Argentina.

The Islands will still be British in 100 years from now.
 
bill barilko
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'Falkland Islander'=bludger
 
Colpy
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by bill barilkoView Post

'Falkland Islander'=bludger

You REALLY don't know what you are talking about do you??

The Islanders are gonna be paying their way....and then some.

While you read this, consider that they could have voted to go for independence.......from either entity.

Falklands Votes With $167 Billion in Oil Revenue at Stake
 
bill barilko
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Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

You REALLY don't know what you are talking about do you??

Bludger-Aussie slang for a lazy person;"A boss would say "get back to work you lazy bludgers!!"



Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

The Islanders are gonna be paying their way....and then some.While you read this, consider that they could have voted to go for independence.......from either entity.

Thanks for the laugh especially since those exploratory holes proved to be dry and the truth is it was all hype.

Again-the few thousand hillbilly bludgers count for ZIP-ask the Chagos Islanders about it.
 
Colpy
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by bill barilkoView Post

Bludger-Aussie slang for a lazy person;"A boss would say "get back to work you lazy bludgers!!"




Thanks for the laugh especially since those exploratory holes proved to be dry and the truth is it was all hype.

Again-the few thousand hillbilly bludgers count for ZIP-ask the Chagos Islanders about it.

Seems you are unable to read either....from the article cited in my post below.

"There are an estimated 60 billion barrels of oil around the Falklands basin worth $167 billion dollars in royalties and taxes for the Falklands' government which will receive 26 percent of the profits from companies drilling for oil and nine percent royalties on every barrel sold, according to U.K.-based Edison Investment Research.

Oil Companies Undeterred

Indeed, after finding oil in 2010, the oil company Rockhopper Exploration, teamed with Premier Oil in a 600 million pound ($900 million) deal to drill the Sea Lion oilfield in the Falklands north basin, estimated to hold around 300 million barrels of oil worth more than $30 billion."
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

You REALLY don't know what you are talking about do you??

The Islanders are gonna be paying their way....and then some.

While you read this, consider that they could have voted to go for independence.......from either entity.

Falklands Votes With $167 Billion in Oil Revenue at Stake

Has he ever?
 
bill barilko
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Has he ever?

This from the BreX Kool Aid drinkers.

I mean they wouldn't lie to us would they?

The Briddish never lie-just ask the Chagos Islanders.

 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by bill barilkoView Post

One way or the other Argentine will one day occupy Las Islas Malvinas.

Only if they are to have their planes shot out of the sky by RAF Typhoons and their ships blown out of the water by RN hunter-killers. They have no chance. Even when the British Army is shrunk in the cuts, it will still be twice as large as the Argentinean Army. They cannot beat Britain militarily. I think that is well known.
Last edited by Blackleaf; Mar 13th, 2013 at 12:21 PM..
 
Niflmir
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

Only if they are to have their planes shot out of the sky by RAF Typhoons and their ships blown out of the water by RN hunter-killers. They have no chance. Even when the British Army is shrunk in the cuts, it will still be twice as large as the Argentinean Army. They cannot beat Britain militarily. I think that is well known.

Yeah, but they will beat you in the war of attrition.

It will be just like the US and Mexico. You will think you have won but you won't think about the slow trickle of Argentinians until it is already their land. By then, nobody will even care that the history books don't tell the whole story...
 
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