UK Parliament votes in favour of same-sex marriage

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Gay marriage: Legislation passes first Commons hurdle



MPs have voted overwhelmingly in favour of the government's legislation for same-sex marriage in England and Wales.
At the conclusion of the Commons' first opportunity to debate the The Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill, MPs voted by 400 to 175, a majority of 225, in favour of the legislation.
Prime Minister David Cameron has described the move as "an important step forward" that strengthens society.
But a number of Conservative MPs voted against the plans.
MPs' decision to back the bill at second reading signifies that they approve with it in principle. The legislation will now proceed to receive more detailed parliamentary scrutiny.



BBC News - Gay marriage: Legislation passes Commons despite Tory opposition




What now homophobes?


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Could Britain have two kings or two queens at the same time? And, which one would be "Defender of the Faith."
 
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Spade said:
Could Britain have two kings or two queens at the same time? And, which one would be "Defender of the Faith."
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Should that ever happen it'd lead to an end to the monarchy, which I wouldnt mind. Go for it, Royals.
 
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To start with I want to see the monarchy remain for a bit yet. Not because I think it is
useful but because our family is descended from the Stewart's and we want the throne
back. Right now the Monarchy is not British at all, they are Tudor's from the German
line of the family.
As for the passing of the legislation, the obstructionists or social conservatives will be
crying in their tea this morning the rest of the world will see it as the world moving on
from another outdated argument. The old ways are slowly vanishing, those outdated
but persistent arguments over same sex marriage, abortion and other nonsense are being
dealt with. Some of these people think they can wrestle with and hod back the hands of
time itself but in the end the world moves on. long way to go though, especially south
of the boarder they are in the primitive stage of accepting Medicare something the over
all civilized world has had more a couple of generations now.
Parliament has decided representing all the citizens is possible for a change good for them.
 
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Thankfully there is little chance that this bill will get through the House of Lords. There are Church of England clergy and many Tory MPs and other MPs in the Lords who will destroy it.

Polls show that most British people are against gay marriage. The Lords will show they are on the side of the majority of the people.

damngrumpy said:
To start with I want to see the monarchy remain for a bit yet. Not because I think it is
useful but because our family is descended from the Stewart's and we want the throne
back
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I think you Stewarts ruined your chances of remaining as monarchs when you kept trying to rule absolutely and as Catholics.

Right now the Monarchy is not British at all, they are Tudor's from the
German
line of the family.
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The Tudors are British (Welsh, to be more precise), not German.
 
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Blackleaf said:
Thankfully there is little chance that this bill will get through the House of Lords. There are Church of England clergy and many Tory MPs and other MPs in the Lords who will destroy it.

Polls show that most British people are against gay marriage. The Lords will show they are on the side of the majority of the people.



I think you Stewarts ruined your chances of remaining as monarchs when you kept trying to rule absolutely and as Catholics.



The Tudors are British (Welsh, to be more precise), not German.
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Most british are repressed sexually anyway. Homophobic as well if you are to be believed.
 
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taxslave said:
Most british are repressed sexually anyway. Homophobic as well if you are to be believed.
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Even most gay people don't want gay marriage. Surveys shows they are happy with civil marriages. They are happy with the way things are right now.

It has been calculated that only a tiny fraction of gay people - who themselves make up only a tiny fraction of the British population - would get married should homosexual marriage be legalised. In fact, the government is bizarrely rushing through gay legislation for the sake of just 0.02% of the British people.

The British people as a whole, straight and gay, do not see gay marriage as a government priority and are wondering why the government is rushing through with a bill for something which will affect hardly anybody when there are more pressing issues at hand which affect almost everybody like the economy, immigration and Europe.

Marriage should be between a man and a woman only and it is unlikely this bill will get through the Lords. Gay marriage isn't going to happen in Britain.
 
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Most civilizations fall apart because of moral decay.
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Really? I'm assuming, which when it comes to you can be dangerous, that you are implying that SSM is a sign of "moral decay". Just wanted to point out something in case you had blocked the memory. Canada allows and recognizes SSM and has for almost 10 years. As a Country, we don't seem to be doing that badly.
 
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Cliffy said:
Moral decay is a sign that the empire is falling apart. Corruption in all levels of government and business would qualify as moral decay more than gay marriage.
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What seems the very epitome of fairness and equality for minorities very often leads to clefts and fissures wherein wedges may be driven to split the pillars of any institution, nation or Empire. Nothing is sacred to destroyers and parasites.
 
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Blackleaf said:
Thankfully there is little chance that this bill will get through the House of Lords. There are Church of England clergy and many Tory MPs and other MPs in the Lords who will destroy it.
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You're funny.

There are only twenty-six Lords Spiritual in the House of Lords, out of over seven hundred members. While these bishops are certainly respected and will be heard, their votes -- even combined with the votes of Conservative peers -- are nowhere near the numbers that would be required to suspend the legislation. Moreover, in any case, the House of Lords has only a suspensive veto over this bill. If the Lords reject the bill, then the Commons may force the issue again in the next session and pass the bill again; and upon this second passage, the Parliament Act, 1911, sets out that the bill may be presented to Her Majesty the Queen without the consent of the House of Lords.

Blackleaf said:
Polls show that most British people are against gay marriage. The Lords will show they are on the side of the majority of the people.
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Actually, polls have shown that support for same-sex marriage in the United Kingdom has only grown over the past year or so (see here). Also, not to nit-pick, but the term "gay marriage" is biased and really ought to not be used; it only reinforces the idea that your opposition to same-sex marriage is based on your discomfort with the idea of male-male sexual activity in the context of your own sexual preferences, rather than the concept of marriage equality.
 
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