Chavez... tick tick tick


B00Mer
Republican
#2



I forget, what's he dieing from?? An@l Cancer??
 
EagleSmack
+4 / -1
#3
Yes... he is getting the best medical attention in the world... in Cuba.

He's in a coma and being kept alive by machines. Ahhhh... that's called "died of cancer" in the rest of the world.
 
B00Mer
Republican
+1 / -1
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Yes... he is getting the best medical attention in the world... in Cuba.

He's in a coma and being kept alive by machines. Ahhhh... that's called "died of cancer" in the rest of the world.

He had or still has cancer, he also has a respiratory infection.. his immune system is failing.. He is NOT in comma and the machine is a respiratory machine for enriched oxygen.

I doubt he will pull though.. however, it speaks volumes about the Cuba health care system.. some say it's better than the USA in many ways.

58 years old.. I don't like the guy.. but that's awful young to die.

Last edited by B00Mer; Jan 2nd, 2013 at 12:33 PM..
 
EagleSmack
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

He had or still has cancer, he also has a respiratory infection.. his immune system is failing.. He is NOT in comma and the machine is a respiratory machine for enriched oxygen.

Oh is that what they are saying?

He HAS cancer and had an operation for his cancer and now he is in a coma and on life support after the operation. He has not been heard from since December 11.
 
petros
+2
#6
Natural or induced coma?
 
B00Mer
Republican
#7
Quote:

It's being said that he is Clinically Dead , and will not be officially announced till after the 10th b/c in Venezuela's constitution it requires an election in the event the elected official is not able to be inaugurated in Jan 10th.

Hugo Chavez entered in recent days in an induced coma , with very weak vital signs, maintained through the artificial[..]istance procured the Havana hospital where he was admitted. Sources consulted by ABC said Monday that it had scheduled a next power of artificial support extending the life of the Venezuelan president . That disconnect, with results expected to die , could occur at any time.

Venezuelan officials say Chavez is still alive, although they seem to be preparing the country for the news of the [rip] of the Bolivarian leader . His son and Minister of Science and Technology, Jorge Arreaza , said Chavez had reached the end of the year "calm and st@ble" . Meanwhile, Venezuelan Vice President, Nicolas Maduro , said Sunday that his situation was "delicate" .

For several days, the health of Chavezis considered critical , with its vital functions artificially[..]isted following the operation he underwent on December 11 due to advanced cancer suffering and postoperative complications provadas by infection .

With constant fever, loss of consciousness and the antibóticos unanswered, Chavez came to the end of the year in intensive care, without eating anything solid since undergoing surgery three weeks ago, with "anus against nature" and due to intravenous feeding extraction of about half a meter of intestine , according to intelligence sources with access to your medical team. Also their respiratory functions were artificially[..]isted after tracheotomy which was submitted by an infection that led to the retention of fluid in the lungs. That picture is completed with renal insufficiency .

In the operation conducted on 11 to remove her four crops of pelvis and bowel cancer , Venezuelan President were extracted 43.4 inches of small intestine. A biopsy conducted during surgery also detected cancer cells in the inner walls of the intestine and the bladder .

The operation, performed by a medical team arrived in Russia specifically, with the[..]istance of Cuban doctors also found that bone metastases and spinal cord was progressing steadily. Normally this would have probably required an upcoming bone marrow transplant, but his condition deteriorated and so has not allowed more performances.

Source: http://www.abc.es/internacional/20130101/abci-chavez-coma-inducido-201301011903.html
 
EagleSmack
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Natural or induced coma?

The article SAYS induced and he's on life support.

If it was you or I our families would be sitting down with the Funeral Director right now.
 
damngrumpy
No Party Affiliation
+2
#9
My wife had this done a few years ago she was put into an induced coma and
put on life support that lasted six days and she came back not from cancer
though but a severe lung problem. Chavez is not going to live forever but it will
not make much difference someone else will take his place. The country has a
democratically elected President and a new election will likely follow it would not
surprise me if his successor won the impending election. The reason? Chavez
gave the vote to the poor who had no voice prior to him coming to power and
those people are still behind his peaceful revolution.
Chavez has a lot of faults to be sure however he is seen as the man to stood up
to America and the real blood suckers the International Monetary Fund these
people kept South America in poverty for years. Yes they bailed them out but they
also made it so growth was impeded as well.
This struggle for an emerging state will go on for another generation before they
straighten it out at least for now change is peaceful and it will go left and right like
all the rest. Chile is sorting things out after the fascists like Pinochet were gone
the socialists have the parliament the conservatives the President. That country
too, suffered from intervention when America assisted in over throwing the elected
President in the seventies.
 
EagleSmack
#10
tick... tick... tick
 
Spade
Free Thinker
+2
#11
Well said!
Sometimes in a democracy those elected are not always favoured by elites, either domestic or foreign.

And by those who swallow propaganda.
 
EagleSmack
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Well said!
Sometimes in a democracy those elected are not always favoured by elites, either domestic or foreign.

And by those who swallow propaganda.

 
Walter
#13
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah ,nah, nah, nah, hey, hey, hey, good riddance.
 
Spade
Free Thinker
+1
#14
You're in good company, ES
 
DaSleeper
#15
Just wondering if someone will start a "memorial" thread for him?????

Who? E A O maybe????????
 
eh1eh
+1
#16
When he dies think of all that oil for America. They already have a monopoly on the other export, no, not coffee.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
+2
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post




I forget, what's he dieing from?? An@l Cancer??

Ah, the two favourite targets of the hate and demonizing propaganda spread by the mass media and western governments and swallowed hook line and sinker by the majority of the sheeple. I guess the rumor that sheeple swallow is true.
 
B00Mer
Republican
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Ah, the two favourite targets of the hate and demonizing propaganda spread by the mass media and western governments and swallowed hook line and sinker by the majority of the sheeple. I guess the rumor that sheeple swallow is true.

Can you truthfully say that you don't think Hugo Chavez is a dictator, enemy of democracy and freedom?

He booted out two representatives from Human Rights Watch, an independent organization that is not funded by any government?

Seriously though. Can someone factually explain to me how he's not an evil, fascist, moron who is set being an estupido mentiroso?

What Has Hugo Chávez Done for Venezuela Lately? - Reason.com

In rural areas of Venezuela there are power outrages, water shortages, you can't find milk, bread or eggs on grocery stores shelves. Chavez has destroyed a once prosperous country in an attempt to turn it into a South American Cuba.

Cliffy, you remind me of a Muslim who comes to Canada or the USA and wants to have the Western Lifestyle outside of his home, so long as behind closed doors he can still have sharia law. Oh it's a democracy, he was voted in.. lol after threatening his opposition and kidnapping family members of opponents.

If you feel that all the BS is just propaganda, then I will personally pay for a plane ticket and have a family adopt you for 1 year.. put your money where your mouth is.. otherwise STFU.

It will be under contract, you breach the contract you have to repay 3X's the plane ticket. It's a safe bet you won't last 3 months much less a year.
 
damngrumpy
No Party Affiliation
+1
#19
This is a good multicultural image the president of Iran a Muslim hugging
the president of Venezuela a Catholic not a bad photo. The big western
oil companies don't like these guys a bit because they are onto them.
Arma who ever he is(never could spell his name) I don't like because he is a fundamentalist Muslim and
Chavez is a democratically elected President I don't agree with a number of
things he does but at least he is using more of the national resources to
help the poor in his own country
 
B00Mer
Republican
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

...he is using more of the national resources to help the poor in his own country

WHAT!!! ???

You seriously think so...



"Why are there empty shelves in Venezuelan supermarkets?

Tonight I went to do my grocery shopping for the week. I will have to go again because many items were missing. And, by the way, I have started going on Friday nights as Saturday's mornings crowds tend to clean up the stores by noon.

There was no milk, under any guise, powder, skim, whole, fresh, UHT. No milk except for some infant formulas for problem babies.

There were no beans. Nor margarine to season them.

Sugar, white since last year, brown since two months, is gone. You can find some fructose if you are willing to pay the price. The choice for cookies was down to 1 third the usual choice, and pasta was down to about 20% of brands and varieties we were used to find. This seems to become permanent, just like sugar.

The Colombian yogurt I am used to is gone, courtesy of 2 weeks of border blockade. Blockade by Venezuelans who do not want to pay tolls in Colombia when they travel there. Their argument? "Colombians do not pay tolls in Venezuela". With such level of political discourse you do understand why Venezuela social fabric is decomposing so fast.

There is no napkins nor toilet paper. Then again, the way things are going eventually we will not need toilet paper anymore....

While I was waiting at the cashier the lights went out. Central Madeirense has its own generators so within 15 seconds the lights were on again and we could keep waiting for your turn. But it was a long walk with my bags to the car through the dark hallways of the small shopping center and the even darker parking lot. No emergency lights anywhere. I know, I am unable to find light bulbs to replace the burnt up bulbs for the night security beams at work. Incidentally this is the third, THIRD, power outage this week in San Felipe. Each power outage lasted more than half an hour, one almost 1 and a half hour. On now they are city wide.

On occasion I read some comments somewhere, some silly articles elsewhere, that Venezuelan increasing scarcity is a reflection of the increased purchasing power of the people. If we are to buy that silliest of arguments, then Cuba with its empty shelves and electric rationing has gotta be one of the richest countries in the world while Switzerland with overflowing shelves and all electric all the time has got to be a living hell for a population held hostage in poverty.

Another simple question: How far will human stupidity and bad faith go?"


Venezuela News And Views: Simple economic questions

Food shortages worry Venezuelans - CNN.com

Despite Its Oil Wealth, Venezuela Has Chronic Food Shortages Due To Government Price Controls

Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

This is a good multicultural image the president of Iran a Muslim hugging the president of Venezuela a Catholic not a bad photo.

Yes unified in their Hatred for the USA and western society in general. With all the food rationing and power and water shortages.. you ever wonder where all that money from Citgo and oil reserves go??
 
Spade
Free Thinker
#21
Venezuela chose Chavez; respect their choice.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
+1
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Ah, the two favourite targets of the hate and demonizing propaganda spread by the mass media and western governments and swallowed hook line and sinker by the majority of the sheeple. I guess the rumor that sheeple swallow is true.

A guy who hangs gays and a guy who sucks up to a guy who hangs gays.

 
B00Mer
Republican
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Venezuela chose Chavez; respect their choice.

You're clueless.. what choice did they have, the opposition was threatened into submission, family members kidnapped, as well as trying to control the media outlets..

Hugo Chavez threatens to take opposition TV station off air - Telegraph

Latin America politics is corrupt as hell.

https://www.whatsnextvenezuela.com/i...buse-of-power/

Funny, sorta reminds me of Obama and their hatred for FoxNews..

Which reminds me...




Last edited by B00Mer; Jan 2nd, 2013 at 08:31 PM..
 
bill barilko
+2
#24
Well I wasn't going to drink any booze for at least a month but seeing as how the end is close I'll have to buy a bottle of cheap 'champagne' to toast the dictator's demise.

Or maybe a half bottle-it's all he deserves.
 
L Gilbert
No Party Affiliation
#25
We needed another thread about Chavez and his ailments?
 
B00Mer
Republican
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by bill barilkoView Post

Well I wasn't going to drink any booze for at least a month but seeing as how the end is close I'll have to buy a bottle of cheap 'champagne' to toast the dictator's demise.

Or maybe a half bottle-it's all he deserves.




Careful bill barilko, the Liberal ELITE of CanadianContent.net may attack you for that comment...

BTW, Cheers to ya..!
 
Spade
Free Thinker
+3
#27
I only attack those who can read.
 
B00Mer
Republican
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

I only attack those who can read.



 
damngrumpy
No Party Affiliation
+1
#29
Boomer for heaven sake Chavez is not a dictator he won two or three elections in a row.
In the beginning he won over eighty percent of the vote this last one he was down twelve
percent. Yes he was elected and fairly, every supervisory group known to man supervised
the vote with monitors. The problem is that poor people were not given the vote and he
saw this as his advantage passed a law and millions of new voters supported him.
Where was America And other nations, they supported the old regimes that prevented
democracy. Now they are dealing with the error of their ways.
Someone said all that oil for America, that won't happen any time soon as the party in
power will remain with a strong showing from the poor and lower middle class as they now
reap the benefits. The shops may or may not be full but the present government makes
sure the poorer folks have what they need. I think the Chavez legacy will not fade with his
passing it will force the electorate to go out and vote.
Central and South America are both regions of the world where culture, status and even
religion are about to collide. the poor outnumber the rich accounting for electoral support.
As for culture and religion, Chavez is smart he is still a Catholic he has not abandoned the
church and if the Church wants to keep the poor and others on side they can't denounce
Chavez in full force. We are watching a changing world where almost all of South America
is going over to a left of center revolution with the exceptions of Columbia and Panama.
 
B00Mer
Republican
+1
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Boomer for heaven sake Chavez is not a dictator he won two or three elections in a row. In the beginning he won over eighty percent of the vote this last one he was down twelve percent.....



World News - If you thought that Costa Rica’s political landscape was something of a disaster zone then think again – you could be Venezuelan. Hugo Chavez became one of many “Elected Dictators” this week when he was voted in by the Venezuelan People (actually he was not) and will stay in office now for another 6 years. Poor Venezuelans.

Who is Hugo Chavez? Why is Hugo Chavez a dictator? Let’s look at the facts:

Chavez since he came to power has jailed his political opponents on trumped up charges. This includes his most recent challenger Henrique Capriles who he accused of being the ring leader on an assault on the Cuban embassy some years ago.

Chavez has closed the anti-Chavez television stations and made all newspapers join his revolution or go bust. In other words media is all pro-Chavez inside Venezuela. He has even tried to block out parts of the Internet but he’s not work outed how to do that quite just yet.

The largest single opposition voting bloc of Venezuelans is in Miami (that’s where they all flee to when Chavez accuses them of something or they get too successful). He closed the Miami embassy so they could not vote.

Chavez installed electronic vote counters that even Jimmy Carter’s electoral team did not believe. With an alleged 81% turnout (unheard of in Venezuela – where were the jungle natives going to vote to get to this crazy turnout figure?) Chavez could win by 10% easily.

Chavez funded his campaign with state cash. The Opposition had to rely on what they had and the Internet. Outside funds were hard to get hold of because bringing foreign currency into Venezuela is hard when you have no way to cash it (unless you are Chavez that is).

Finally, state workers and the military were told they’d lose their jobs if they voted for anyone apart from Chavez.

Chavez stole the election. So if you think we’ve got it bad here with a bunch of crazies running the country, always remember things could be far worse. We could be living in Venezuela.

SOURCE: Dictator Hugo Chavez Fraudulently Gets Re-Elected in Venezuela | The Costa Rican Times
 

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