The War on Drugs is a Failure

Cliffy

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Breaking the Taboo was directed by Cosmo Feilding Mellen and Fernando Grostein Andrade, and is Narrated by Oscar-winning actor Morgan Freeman

Featuring interviews with current and former presidents from around the world, such as Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, the film follows The Global Commission on Drug Policy on a mission to break the political taboo over the United States led War on Drugs and expose what it calls the biggest failure of global policy in the last 40 years.

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EagleSmack

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Oh what... Billy and Jimmy think it's a bad idea NOW?

We're gonna get hiiiiiiigh!

Hey... say what you will about us Yanks but they're blazing in public/legally in Washington and Colorado as we speak. How about up there?

Each election the dominoes will fall... at least for weed.
 

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Breaking the Taboo (documentary)

Breaking the Taboo was directed by Cosmo Feilding Mellen and Fernando Grostein Andrade, and is Narrated by Oscar-winning actor Morgan Freeman

Featuring interviews with current and former presidents from around the world, such as Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, the film follows The Global Commission on Drug Policy on a mission to break the political taboo over the United States led War on Drugs and expose what it calls the biggest failure of global policy in the last 40 years.

Breaking The Taboo - View Documentary - #warondrugs #fail

And it will continue as long as the majority of people continue to insist it's too big of a problem to overcome. I'd bet an AK 47 that it's not! Problem is too many political "heavies" are involved in it.
 

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And it will continue as long as the majority of people continue to insist it's too big of a problem to overcome. I'd bet an AK 47 that it's not! Problem is too many political "heavies" are involved in it.

The political heavies are dwindling. More and more states are changing.

However... any country would be nuts to allow the opiates to be legal. I don't care if you support weed being legal but I am sure many of us know at least one person that is/was addicted to OXY. You get hooked on that... bu bye.
 

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Breaking the Taboo (documentary)

Breaking the Taboo was directed by Cosmo Feilding Mellen and Fernando Grostein Andrade, and is Narrated by Oscar-winning actor Morgan Freeman

Featuring interviews with current and former presidents from around the world, such as Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, the film follows The Global Commission on Drug Policy on a mission to break the political taboo over the United States led War on Drugs and expose what it calls the biggest failure of global policy in the last 40 years.

Breaking The Taboo - View Documentary - #warondrugs #fail

Thank you Cliffy for sharing this doc with us. I think it should be required viewing for every single member of our Parliament. It should also be required viewing in our high schools and universities in order to inform future voters about the truth behind the war on drugs.

The political heavies are dwindling. More and more states are changing.

However... any country would be nuts to allow the opiates to be legal. I don't care if you support weed being legal but I am sure many of us know at least one person that is/was addicted to OXY. You get hooked on that... bu bye.

My son-in-law became hooked on Oxy while over in Iraq where, from what he and his friends told me, it was given out like candy. A tour in Afghanistan only made the problem worse.

Here at home in BC, a campaign is underway to hold a referendum on decriminalization of marijuana. Signatures will be gathered starting next year. I will definitely be signing it.

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Cliffy

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Thank you Cliffy for sharing this doc with us. I think it should be required viewing for every single member of our Parliament. It should also be required viewing in our high schools and universities in order to inform future voters about the truth behind the war on drugs.

My son-in-law became hooked on Oxy while over in Iraq where, from what he and his friends told me, it was given out like candy. A tour in Afghanistan only made the problem worse.

Here at home in BC, a campaign is underway to hold a referendum on decriminalization of marijuana. Signatures will be gathered starting next year. I will definitely be signing it.

* NEWS RELEASE: Dana Larsen Touring BC To Promote The Sensible BC Decriminalization Campaign | SensibleBC.ca*@*CHLY 101.7 FM


The only thing I would change here is that the referendum should be on the ballet this spring instead as a separate referendum. The government does not need to control or tax pot. They will save billions just on law enforcement alone. Decriminalize and let people grow their own. Government has already screwed up the medical marihuana situation.
 

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Don't forget hemp. I suppose it's too late to save western industry but maybe we will be allowed to make baskets and rope someday soon. The policy was not a failure the same forces would do it all over again.
 

darkbeaver

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H for V very handy stuff hemp, easy to grow, wide regions as well and widespread expertize and those are the exact reasons why it isn't very common today. It was too good to be free. There was too much demand for the product and it was too hard to get a stranglehold on the supply except they lawed it out of the way.
 

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The only thing I would change here is that the referendum should be on the ballet this spring instead as a separate referendum. The government does not need to control or tax pot. They will save billions just on law enforcement alone. Decriminalize and let people grow their own. Government has already screwed up the medical marihuana situation.


I so agree with you, Cliffy........but our head-up-her bum premier has thrown the ball in the Feds court.........what a wienie. You'd think with her standing in the polls, she might figure that having this on the ballot might just get her a few more votes.

Besides being able to legally toke up once in awhile, it is the major savings on law enforcement that you mention which really gets my attention. That and the fact that we would see fewer citizens jailed for what is essentially, to me at least, at victim-less crime. I personally have never known a single toker who has committed a 'crime.' At the same time, the majority of them are good tax-paying citizens holding down every type of job you can imagine.

As to medical dope...........what a waste of time and money...........the fellow I know who uses it has often told me it is almost useless.



Don't forget hemp. I suppose it's too late to save western industry but maybe we will be allowed to make baskets and rope someday soon. The policy was not a failure the same forces would do it all over again.

A few years back, a group of citizens in our area got together and started growing hemp. They tried in on the local reserve too, but for whatever reason it didn't do to well.........though I had to wonder how you could screw up what is essentially a weed that once grew wild on the prairies.
 

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My son-in-law became hooked on Oxy while over in Iraq where, from what he and his friends told me, it was given out like candy. A tour in Afghanistan only made the problem worse.
My sis in-law and her estranged hubby are both screwed right up from the Karzai brothers best. It's a big problem in the CDN military that doesn't get talked about.
 

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The reason its a failure is because even lawyers, police and judges use soft drugs, so do the
business people and other workers. The war on drugs is like the war on booze in the early
part of the twentieth century. Two groups support the war, the churches who want your money
and organized crime who wants your money, oh and the police departments, they get jobs from
such a war.
Social aspects of life cannot be regulated and outlawed, booze, smoking, drugs and even the
element engaged in prostitution. Not even Caesar could prevent these things.
The biggest reason it is a failure is because the majority of people don't support it. If you take a
poll seventy percent or more vote to legalize it.

There is a difference between social morals and criminal activity, the criminal comes in with child
porn etc but other than that, society is fighting a losing battle in a democratic state.
 

petros

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It's another tool for control based on fear.

If you don't have that bright kid with good grades and clean record busted for smoking a joint he'll grow up to steal your lawn mower, rape your wife and set up a meth lab in the old run down motorhome in your backyard.

Its better if he has a record, so he can't get into university or get a good job because of the record so then he is forced to steal your lawn mower, rape your wife and set up a meth lab in your old run down motorhome in your backyard to self-medicate because he's miserable with his life and has a hate on for the scared ****less, manipulated by imagined fear society.
 
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Cliffy

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It's another tool for control based on fear.

If you don't have that bright kid with good grades and clean record busted for smoking a joint he'll grow up to steal your lawn mower, rape your wife and set up a meth lab in the old run down motorhome in your backyard.

Its better if he has a record, so he can't get into university or get a good job because of the record so then he is forced to steal your lawn mower, rape your wife and set up a meth lab in your old run down motorhome in your backyard to self-medicate because he's miserable with his life and has a hate on for the sacred ****less, manipulated by imagined fear society.
I think you meant "scared", but ya, it is all about fear mongering and control.
 

petros

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Fixed....it's past my bedtime. Don't rat me out for staying up late and smoking a joint because my arthritis is driving me nuts. I'll have to come steal your lawn mower.
 

Cliffy

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Fixed....it's past my bedtime. Don't rat me out for staying up late and smoking a joint because my arthritis is driving me nuts. I'll have to come steal your lawn mower.
Try Devil's Claw. Works for me and a lot cheeper (if you have to buy your pot). If that is not strong enough, use pot oil (as in "Run From the Cure" movie). The oil is way more effective than smoking (but not as much fun).
 

Cliffy

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Unfortunately, there was a glaring bit of misinformation in the doc that they are still trying to pass off. One of the main reasons for going into Afghanistan was not that the taliban were growing poppies to finance their terrorist activities. The fact is that the taliban were wiping out the poppy industry. They believed it was against the Koran to grow drugs. Since the west's invasion the production of poppies has risen 100 fold and it not because the taliban suddenly did a 180 degree turn in their thinking. The one thing the world leaders involved in this documentary could never say is the real reason Afghanistan was invaded.
 

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Good grief.

 

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Breaking the Taboo (documentary)

Breaking the Taboo was directed by Cosmo Feilding Mellen and Fernando Grostein Andrade, and is Narrated by Oscar-winning actor Morgan Freeman

Featuring interviews with current and former presidents from around the world, such as Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, the film follows The Global Commission on Drug Policy on a mission to break the political taboo over the United States led War on Drugs and expose what it calls the biggest failure of global policy in the last 40 years.

Breaking The Taboo - View Documentary - #warondrugs #fail
Faaaaaaaar out, man!