What about Liechtenstein? Why aren't the media covering it?

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Liechtenstein has tremendous support for its monarchy, even rejecting to revoke the monarch's veto power in a September 2012 referendum. Thanks to a very low corporate tax rate all the cool kids want to do business there, resulting in more registered companies than citizens. It has a very high GDP, low external debt, a 100 percent literacy rate, and one of the highest standards of living in Europe. The fact that we see no coverage in the media of the unchanging success of this nation can only lead one to believe that the liberal dominated lamestream media don't want us to know that we can have a successful, capitalist nation, free from the economic ruin that comes with socialism. We need to educate ourselves as to what the Liechtenstein citizens did and learn from them to take back control of our countries and our lives.

"For God and country!" (an old Liechtenstein motto)
 
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In Between Man said:
Liechtenstein has tremendous support for its monarchy, even rejecting to revoke the monarch's veto power in a September 2012 referendum. Thanks to a very low corporate tax rate all the cool kids want to do business there, resulting in more registered companies than citizens. It has a very high GDP, low external debt, a 100 percent literacy rate, and one of the highest standards of living in Europe. The fact that we see no coverage in the media of the unchanging success of this nation can only lead one to believe that the liberal dominated lamestream media don't want us to know that we can have a successful, capitalist nation, free from the economic ruin that comes with socialism. We need to educate ourselves as to what the Liechtenstein citizens did and learn from them to take back control of our countries and our lives.

"For God and country!" (an old Liechtenstein motto)
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Bit of an over simplification don't you think? The success of Liechtenstein has little to do with capitalism vs socialism and more to do with how they spend their money. For example, they are one of the few nations of the world without an army. They offload much of their diplomatic efforts onto Switzerland.

Besides, not every place can be a tax haven.
 
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They are quite socialist providing free education and healthcare among a host of other services aimed at enhancing the life of the citizens. How do they pay for this? By helping the wealthy hide their money and evade taxation in their own countries.

The 2008 Liechtenstein tax affair is a series of tax investigations in numerous countries whose governments suspect that some of their citizens may have evaded tax obligations by using banks and trusts in Liechtenstein; the affair broke open with the biggest complex of investigations ever initiated for tax evasion in the Federal Republic of Germany.[32] It was also seen as an attempt to put pressure on Liechtenstein, then one of the remaining uncooperative tax havens—along with Andorra and Monaco—as identified by the Paris-based Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development in 2007.[33] On 27 May 2009 the OECD removed Liechtenstein from the blacklist of uncooperative countries.[34]
In August 2009, the British Government Department, HM Revenue & Customs, agreed with Liechtenstein to start exchanging information. It is believed that up to 5,000 British investors have roughly £3 billion stashed in accounts and trusts in the country.[35]
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PoliticalNick said:
They are quite socialist providing free education and healthcare among a host of other services aimed at enhancing the life of the citizens.
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That's not how I would define socialism. Liechtenstein also has qualities other than its economy that make it awesome in my opinion.

Cannuck said:
Bit of an over simplification don't you think?
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Nah...
 
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In Between Man said:
I was just talking about Canada (or America), not "every other country".
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Nice try but...

In Between Man said:
The fact that we see no coverage in the media of the unchanging success of this nation can only lead one to believe that the liberal dominated lamestream media don't want us to know that we can have a successful, capitalist nation, free from the economic ruin that comes with socialism. We need to educate ourselves as to what the Liechtenstein citizens did and learn from them to take back control of our countries and our lives.
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You were suggesting that Liechtenstein's success had something to do with capitalism vs socialism and it doesn't really.
 
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In Between Man said:
That's not how I would define socialism. Liechtenstein also has qualities other than its economy that make it awesome in my opinion.
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That may not ve how you define socialism, but that is an essential characteristic of socialism; providing services and basic infrastructure to the average citizen.
 
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I have some problems with socialism however I don't feel the need to label anything I
don't like socialism. For example we have this tiny country with it loyalty to be commended
I am sure. Its a tiny country and that in itself allows it to govern more closely and the
people have a closer kinship. This is really a disguised attack on socialism than it is about
this nation. It is somehow suggesting the media and the governments of our country are
full of socialists. Down in America, that socialist Obama and all that eating up space on
threads in this forum. Obama is not a socialist he would be a conservative in Canada.
I personally don't fear either socialism or capitalism both are incompetent in my view.
Both need to be supervised to ensure they don't get out of control that means regulation
and that means unless they are controlled in some measure they succumb to dishonesty
We need a balance, some problems require right of center solutions and others need
left of center solutions.
Just think in a week one side or the other will be bashing the other and ignoring the fact
that the continent is going to hell in a hand basket. Nice try though Liechtenstein is a small
small nations you can travel through while having a coffee, it has nothing in common with
the reality of a large nation and a huge population.
 
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Bar Sinister said:
That may not ve how you define socialism, but that is an essential characteristic of socialism; providing services and basic infrastructure to the average citizen.
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If it gets that far (not likely) after the government scrapes (steals) honest earned money from job creators. More likely you just made the government bigger, richer, and more powerful and the "working man" still lives check to check. That's assuming you don't lose the middle class altogether and slip into outright communism of course.

Didn't you know that Jesus said "you will have the poor with you ALWAYS" ? (Matthew 26:11) That's why it's up to INDIVIDUALS, CHURCHES, COMMUNITIES, to take care of the poor and sick through CHARITY. Governments cannot be trusted as "middle men" between the poor/sick and any resources that are suppose to help them.

Socialism is a dangerous failure. France is now robbing their wealthiest citizens for 75 percent income tax! That, my friend, is IMMORAL. I don't care how much money you earn honestly. If a government materialized and took 75 percent of income from honest people, there should be a revolution in my eye.
 
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Cannuck said:
You were suggesting that Liechtenstein's success had something to do with capitalism vs socialism and it doesn't really.
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Well they have very low corporate tax rate and encourage those nice wealthy people to keep their monies safe in their beautiful little home. And they don't rob the rich as a main source of revenue.

Plus they have a king, lefties who like socialism don't like monarchs. They like biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggg government. Big sis telling ya what to do.

Liechtenstein sounds capitalist to me.
 
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petros said:
How so? You only get taxed on what you make, not what you already have in assets. If you are rich, you'll stay rich.
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You gonna work hard, take big risks , expand your business, hire extra help, or have the ability to CONTINUALLY give to charities when you're only taking home a low return (25%)?

I think not.

No revolution, I'd probably take my assets, my tax dollars, and ditch your "socialist utopia".

petros said:
Are we capitalists?
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I am, you?
 
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