Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick
The goal of Jesus was socialism!
Really, this dude you worship was a left-wing socialist. The christian faith is a socialist doctrine. Help the poor, equality for all, yadda yadda....
Quote: Originally Posted by gore0bsessed
I don't think Jesus would approve.
That claim gets tossed around a lot, but always without any scriptural evidence whatsoever. Jesus NEVER advocated or commanded that wealth be TAKEN AWAY from one group of people and given to another. You can quote whatever he said regarding the poor, because he plainly advocated CHARITY, not
And I really got you with the parable of the talents told by Jesus. In that parable Jesus takes away the single talent from the poor man and gave it to the rich man
who had far more talents to begin with! At the end of the parable, Jesus tells the lazy poor man to go to hell for his failure to invest
. Sound like socialism? Read it for yourself, (Matt 25:14-30) and I'm curious how you would explain His words away, because the parable of the talents DESTROYS any claim that Jesus, (or Christianity) is socialist.
So how do you become a right-wing conservative while still espousing you are a christian? Seems like a bit of a paradox to me so maybe explain it from your standpoint.
LOVE THIS QUESTION. I have never been asked this and I'm thrilled to give an answer! (deep subject, so I'll just stick to a couple of points to keep it short)
How much time have you spent pondering, discussing with friends, or reading the bible to try to understand God's character? God/theology/religion has probably been my favorite subject since my youth and I've spent thousands of hours on the subject.
While espousing to be a Christian, right-wing conservative beliefs based on logic:
Without even picking up the bible yet, common sense says that if God is the Author of life, no human has the right to take that God-given life away from an innocent person. You can say whatever you like about a woman's so called "right to choose" but the fact remains that you will NEVER be able to demonstrate GUILT on the part of an unborn child.
Faith in God aka "fear of the Lord" results in one to oppose abortion.
While espousing to be a Christian, right wing conservative beliefs based on God's Word:
If the bible is God's revealed Word to us, then "gay marriage" and homosexual behavior is sinful according to God. Jesus IDENTIFIED marriage as between one man and one woman, He said to uphold the OT commandments that do condemn homosexuality, and warned us about the sinful condition of Sodom and Gomorrah (whose presenting sin was homosexuality).
All biblical evidence says homosexual behavior (and more) is sin against God.
Right wing conservative beliefs/labels decided by societal norms:
If you oppose abortion and gay marriage, most leftists are going to label you not only conservative but probably "far right". Couple this with the observation that GENERALLY SPEAKING the anti-God crowd falls on the left, support things like abortion and gay marriage, and viola, you find yourself a conservative Christian.
For the reasons that, to pretend God is okay with these things is called IDOLATRY, you're off worshiping some other "god", and not the real one. Further, it's foolish to "conform" God, or the truth, to your own standard of morality, or to just follow the crowd's standard. God sets the standard
, so it's obviously more wise to renew your thinking to his thinking. (Romans 12:2 (external - login to view)
There ya go, I tried to keep it short. I'm giving you a green thumb for your post, not because I agree with what you said, but because you asked an excellent, deep, and what I perceive to be a sincere question, one I enjoyed answering. Cheers!
Last edited by In Between Man; Nov 7th, 2012 at 04:04 AM..