Ah, those wonderful, progressive Germans.


Nuggler
+1
#1
Here's a little doc. covering a period in history I've never heard of: A bit long, but worth a look.

Pull up a chair, Dancing Loonie. Take a gander.

Namibia: Genocide and the Second Reich | Watch Free Documentary Online (external - login to view)
 
The Old Medic
Conservative
+2
#2  Top Rated Post
Hey, I have a great idea! Let all of Europe, about descendants of Colonial peoples around the world, pay reparations to all indigenous peoples.

How about $10 per year, for every person killed, displaced, or marginalized every since the 2nd wave of migrants came out of Africa about 30,000 years ago?

All descendants of Neanderthals (which includes everyone EXCEPT Africans) should also get reparations for Homo Sapiens slaughter and displacement of those people.

Reparations to anyone still living that actually suffered direct harm, OK. To anyone else, HELL NO!
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
+2
#3
Gee.... I agree....


note to self: Leafs STILL may have a chance.....
 
Nuggler
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Gee.... I agree....


note to self: Leafs STILL may have a chance.....


Me Too; not about the Leafs though
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
+1
#5
No one should be suprised by this, but this is what happens when people are not taught history. Every colonial power in Africa was guilty of slaughtering thousands or tens of thousands of Africans during the colonial era of the 19th and 20th Centuries. The same was true of many parts of Asia, and of course if you want to go back far enough to the colonial empires in North and South America.

In fact the murdering of native populations is pretty much par for the course in every colonial endeavour everywhere, going all the way back to ancient times. Compensation? I really don't know. Are the Tunisians going to ask for compensation from the Romans for what was done to the Carthaginians? History is full of stories of humans doing horrible things to one another. It is impossible to compensate everyone for every historical atrocity.
 
damngrumpy
No Party Affiliation
#6
Why is it that so many don't want to talk about all the ethnic cleansing and not just a few?
The Maritimes in Eastern Canada is a glowing example of ethnic cleansing. The French
ended up in the Southern United States and places like Cape Breton were turned over to
the English for example.
The British the French and Germans and so on carved up Africa and the Middle East
without the slightest consideration of the local populations. Today we are reaping the over
all benefit of those decisions as well. If the worlds peoples were to attempt to apologize
to each other there wouldn't be enough time.
We know these things happened, so when do we move on?
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar SinisterView Post

No one should be suprised by this, but this is what happens when people are not taught history. Every colonial power in Africa was guilty of slaughtering thousands or tens of thousands of Africans during the colonial era of the 19th and 20th Centuries. The same was true of many parts of Asia, and of course if you want to go back far enough to the colonial empires in North and South America.

In fact the murdering of native populations is pretty much par for the course in every colonial endeavour everywhere, going all the way back to ancient times. Compensation? I really don't know. Are the Tunisians going to ask for compensation from the Romans for what was done to the Carthaginians? History is full of stories of humans doing horrible things to one another. It is impossible to compensate everyone for every historical atrocity.


The Carthaginians were baby sacrificers maybe we can justify their offing.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Why is it that so many don't want to talk about all the ethnic cleansing and not just a few?
The Maritimes in Eastern Canada is a glowing example of ethnic cleansing. The French
ended up in the Southern United States and places like Cape Breton were turned over to
the English for example.
The British the French and Germans and so on carved up Africa and the Middle East
without the slightest consideration of the local populations. Today we are reaping the over
all benefit of those decisions as well. If the worlds peoples were to attempt to apologize
to each other there wouldn't be enough time.
We know these things happened, so when do we move on?

We could move on when we stop practicing colonialism and genocide.
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

The Carthaginians were baby sacrificers maybe we can justify their offing.

Carthage is just one historical example. I could mention further Roman atrocities such as Julius Caesar's conquest and enslavement of Gaul, a campaign in which an estimated one or two million people were killed. Human conquest has always involved brutal atrocities and the list is so long that I could literally fill several pages just listing them. Picking just one or two out of so many seems a bit fruitless and I am not surprised that modern Germans have refused to achknowldge any responisiblkity for what happened over one hundred years ago.
 
Nuggler
#10
The whole point of the OP was just to remark on how history repeated itself in just a few years, except on a somewhat larger scale. Several million dead vs. several thousand.

Sad.
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by NugglerView Post

The whole point of the OP was just to remark on how history repeated itself in just a few years, except on a somewhat larger scale. Several million dead vs. several thousand.

Sad.


Ah well, everything is relative. On a per capita scale the greatest atrocities were committed by people like the Assyrians and Mongols. Entire nations were wiped out by these delightful people.
 

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