History of Israel in a 3 minute cartoon

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Would you like to show us where else in history a nation of slaves, living in foreign land, get up and walk out under their oppressor's nose, and take possession of their promised land?

In fact, in Deuteronomy 4, God says that His plucking of the Jews out of Egypt and establishment in Canaan, would be a sign to the whole world that He is the one true God and that the Jews are His people. He essentially asked the same question, where else do you see a nation of slaves living in foreign land get up and walk out?

Then, after 2000 years of diaspora, that nation is miraculously reborn in single day as prophesied? (Isaiah 66:8, Isaiah 11:12, Ezekiel 37:21)(Israel's creation in 1948 ) Can you show us where else in history this happens?

Your video was lame, uninformative, and void of any historical facts. Here are the facts regarding the peace process since God reestablished Israel in 1948: (a guide on who's killing who)

Israel Palestinian Conflict: The Truth About the Peace Process - YouTube
 
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in Deuteronomy 4, God says that His plucking of the Jews out of Egypt and establishment in Canaan would be a sign to the whole world that He is the one true God and that the Jews are His people.
And then one day God gave his head a shake and decided enough was enough, sent his Son to call off the deal and issue a New Coventant which Jews refuse to accept to this day.
 

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Would you like to show us where else in history a nation of slaves, living in foreign land, get up and walk out under their oppressor's nose, and take possession of their promised land?
You assume the biblical account is accurate history, a view that over a century of historical and archeological investigation does not sustain. I'll give it a try if you can first demonstrate from non-biblical sources that the story is true.
 

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You assume the biblical account is accurate history, a view that over a century of historical and archeological investigation does not sustain. I'll give it a try if you can first demonstrate from non-biblical sources that the story is true.

Never looked at Gores cartoon video- Any credibility to that or do you prefer going after the ones that have religion. Or am I right off the mark and you will comment on the OP Cartoon.
 

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Never looked at Gores cartoon video- Any credibility to that...
Yes, I think so. I didn't recognize all the costumes, but certainly that land has been fought over many times by nations and empires ancient and modern.
...or do you prefer going after the ones that have religion.
I'll challenge anybody who makes truth claims without adequate evidence.
 

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And then one day God gave his head a shake and decided enough was enough, sent his Son to call off the deal and issue a New Coventant which Jews refuse to accept to this day.

It's illogical to say that an omniscient being has regrets about anything let alone a covenant. And although the New Covenant is superior, it doesn't negate the Old Covenant. If it did, then Jesus Christ (who is a Jew) won't intervene to save Israel (his people) when she is surrounded by her enemies in the last days. (Matthew 23:39, Joel 2:30-32)

Y'all have to wait to see if He does, until then here's proof that God hasn't negated his First Covenant:

Miracles In Gaza - YouTube
 

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I want to know why b00mer just gave me a neg rep for my video which he clearly didn't watch. Then he goes and posts retarded pictures that have nothing to do with the topic (or reality).

Yes there was a Holocaust and if Hitler had not been stopped, Muslims would have been included

Hitler Planed to Kill All Non-Germans, Including Muslims

Personally, I wish he started with Muslims.. ;)

Now advocates the genocide of Muslim people.. and why hasn't this clown been banned yet?
 

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I want to know why b00mer just gave me a neg rep for my video which he clearly didn't watch. Then he goes and posts retarded pictures that have nothing to do with the topic (or reality).



Now advocates the genocide of Muslim people.. and why hasn't this clown been banned yet?

You advocate the extermination of Jews and you're constantly starting anti-Israel threads..

Advocating the genocide of Muslim people, nope just saying I wish history was played out a little differently.. ;) ...because if you read the article I posted, they were next on the list, right after Jews..

I see Muslims praising Hitler for killing Jews, it's obvious they don't have a clue, they were next..



I suppose then we could start denying there was ever a holocaust if he started with Muslims and see how they feel then.. Iran and the other nut bars.
 

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This isn't an anti-Israel thread (not that there is anything wrong with starting anti-israel threads), and I haven't once advocated for the extermination of Jews. You literally just wished for the genocide of Muslims, and you're throwing this thread off topic with your sheer stupidity and abusing the rep system as well. Let's not forget your threats towards Ahmadinejad too in an earlier thread.

I see Muslims praising Hitler for killing Jews, it's obvious they don't have a clue, they were next..
You don't see anything besides photoshopped images over the internet.
 

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not that there is anything wrong with starting anti-israel threads

got'cha..

Ahmadinejad too in an earlier thread.

OMG, how dare I insult your GOD!! LOL

You're so pro-Islam, anything you post.. I just assume it's not anti-Israeli 80% of the time -- you and Angstrom need to get a room.

Also, you're crying about a neg, funny coming from a fella that dish a few out to me recently.. now you're crying when you get the same.. lol
 

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No you didn't get me. There is nothing wrong with criticizing Israel.

I like how you put off your threat that you were going to go to NYC and kill Ahmadinejad as just an "insult". Nice one.

I'm not pro-Islam I'm anti-dumbass. Any idiot posting ridiculous bull**** like you and Colpy I'll call you out on it.
 

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No you didn't get me. There is nothing wrong with criticizing Israel.

I like how you put off your threat that you were going to go to NYC and kill Ahmadinejad as just an "insult". Nice one.

I'm not pro-Islam I'm anti-dumbass. Any idiot posting ridiculous bull**** like you and Colpy I'll call you out on it.



Yup, I have a plane ticket right in my hand to go to Tehran, Iran and kill Ahmadinejad.. :lol: I also have some ocean front property to sell you in Arizona.

Interested??

Don't believe everything you read on the internet, that's how WWII got started... seriously. ;)

 

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It's illogical to say that an omniscient being has regrets about anything let alone a covenant. And although the New Covenant is superior, it doesn't negate the Old Covenant. If it did, then Jesus Christ (who is a Jew) won't intervene to save Israel (his people) when she is surrounded by her enemies in the last days. (Matthew 23:39, Joel 2:30-32)

Y'all have to wait to see if He does, until then here's proof that God hasn't negated his First Covenant:

Miracles In Gaza - YouTube
Jesus wasn't a Jew (JEWdean), He was sent to straighten out the Judeans who were nasty pieces of **** and spreading their filth as law over the other tribes.

Read your Bible it explains everything even the dropping of the Old Covenant.

They refused, and are still paying for it.


This is what God thinks of the Judeans (Jews)

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. - Jesus

You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord? - Jesus

Does that in anyway say they are the Chidren of God?

Ever think it is possible there was no diaspora and just a ****load of Israelites who simply signed on to the New Covenant as the word of God except for some of the those pesky son's of Satan Judeans who are the people we call the Jews today?

Do you really think God would give Israel back to the sons of Satan Judeans after all that crap last time
 
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In Between Man

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You assume the biblical account is accurate history, a view that over a century of historical and archeological investigation does not sustain. I'll give it a try if you can first demonstrate from non-biblical sources that the story is true.

Well, there are early, non-biblical historians who record the exodus. Certainly as historians they would have believed that what they were recording was a historical event. They didn't record these as myths, or popular legends for their time, otherwise it wouldn't be cited as extra-biblical sources.

Further, considering that we're talking about ancient times, having any type of historical record from that time is a treasure. So when you read the Exodus event in the bible, with its details about specific locations by name, people and their specific backgrounds, and profound dialogue, it presses on one that the authors of the Torah were meticulously recording their history. They, and their fathers were witnesses to all the events surrounding the exodus (i.e. parting the red sea, wandering the desert, manna from heaven, crossing the Jordan River, conquering Canaan etc).

The Book of Exodus is the historical record of that and its surrounding events. Please remember that the exodus event was several thousand years ago, and today we're fortunate just to have remnants of the second temple (let alone the first!), and that was built 2000 to 1500 years after the exodus. New archaeological finds with biblical ties are still happening today, so there's still lots for us to discover.

And in wider scope, the entire bible is the historical record of creation, Israel, and Jesus Christ. Surely it's rich in detail concerning these things because God wanted us to have an accurate picture of these important events, people, and the background behind them. By doing this, He gave us the proper context to understand why we're here (our purpose) and where we're going (His plan for us).

what else is illogical is believing in an omniscient being.

It's illogical, and impossible, for something let alone everything to come from nothing, and the most judicial philosopher on the planet will never grant you that it can.

And when you consider the scope and magnificence of the universe from the sub-atomic to entire galaxies, it's apparent of the omnipotence that would have to behind it. An omnipotent and therefore omniscient being is not illogical if you carefully consider it.
 
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The Book of Exodus is the historical record of that and its surrounding events. Please realize that the exodus event was several thousand years ago, and today we're fortunate just to have remnants of the second temple (let alone the first!), and that was built two thousand years or more after the exodus. New archaeological finds with biblical ties are still happening today, so there's still lots for us to discover.
What do the Egyptian texts say? They kept track of everything right down to the number of beer a worker was alotted and bonus.