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Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

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Machjo
#1Sep 28th, 2012
Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C. - Yahoo! News Canada

In practircal terms, it's not such a big dea; besides, it saves the Canadian taxpayer money.

Symbolically though, is this not a violation of Canadian sovereignty?

I thought jurisdiction over a crime depended on whose jurisdiction was committed in, not on who the nationals were.

Your thoughts on this?
 
earth_as_one
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Re: Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

Sep 28th, 2012
The crime happened in Canada, so Canadian law should apply. However the murderer fled to China where he was arrested... So Chinese law applies regarding extradition. It sounds like the Chinese and Canadian authorities worked out a cooperative arrangement, where the RCMP helped Chinese authorities prosecute the case in exchange for a guarantee that China would not seek the death penalty.

Since China had the killer in custody, in practical terms, they were in the driver's seat.

While this case is unusual, justice appears to have been served, which is more important than who gets to prosecute and incarcerate the offender.
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
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Re: Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

Sep 28th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

The crime happened in Canada, so Canadian law should apply. However the murderer fled to China where he was arrested... So Chinese law applies regarding extradition. It sounds like the Chinese and Canadian authorities worked out a cooperative arrangement, where the RCMP helped Chinese authorities prosecute the case in exchange for a guarantee that China would not seek the death penalty.

Since China had the killer in custody, in practical terms, they were in the driver's seat.

While this case is unusual, justice appears to have been served, which is more important than who gets to prosecute and incarcerate the offender.

Besides... who wants to foot the bill on flying him back across the ocean & back to Canada?

Screw it, let him face the Chinese Justice System. I'm sure he'll enjoy that much more than the Canadian Justice System.
 
TenPenny
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Re: Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

Sep 28th, 2012
I wouldn't even have bothered worrying about the death penalty, let him face the justice system where he is.
 
karrie
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Re: Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

Sep 28th, 2012
He chose to flee to freaking CHINA.... seriously, he knew what he was facing in their legal system.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Re: Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

Sep 28th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

I wouldn't even have bothered worrying about the death penalty, let him face the justice system where he is.

Excactly. If he was stupid enough to flee to China or Texas, let him fry.
 
BaalsTears
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Re: Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

Sep 28th, 2012
Good God! What about Canadians calling the shots about what happens in Canada?
 
earth_as_one
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Re: Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

Sep 28th, 2012
Actually the Chinese were calling the shots about what would happen in China. Canadian authorities really didn't have much choice if they wanted justice. BTW, we have extradited Chinese criminals back to China...
Lai Changxing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Machjo
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Re: Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

Sep 28th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

The crime happened in Canada, so Canadian law should apply. However the murderer fled to China where he was arrested... So Chinese law applies regarding extradition. It sounds like the Chinese and Canadian authorities worked out a cooperative arrangement, where the RCMP helped Chinese authorities prosecute the case in exchange for a guarantee that China would not seek the death penalty.

Since China had the killer in custody, in practical terms, they were in the driver's seat.

While this case is unusual, justice appears to have been served, which is more important than who gets to prosecute and incarcerate the offender.

You do have the point that China reserves the right to extradite him or not and in that case, I guess it would be preferabel for Canada to let them try him rather than just let him potentially get away with murder (assuming he is guilty of course). However, since the crime did occur on Canadian soil, diplomatically it would have made sense for China to extradite him or at least allow Canada to pick him up for trial.
 
L Gilbert
No Party Affiliation
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Re: Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

Sep 28th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

You do have the point that China reserves the right to extradite him or not and in that case, I guess it would be preferabel for Canada to let them try him rather than just let him potentially get away with murder (assuming he is guilty of course). However, since the crime did occur on Canadian soil, diplomatically it would have made sense for China to extradite him or at least allow Canada to pick him up for trial.

China can still send him back after it is through with him.
 
shadowshiv
Free Thinker
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Re: Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

Sep 29th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

You do have the point that China reserves the right to extradite him or not and in that case, I guess it would be preferabel for Canada to let them try him rather than just let him potentially get away with murder (assuming he is guilty of course). However, since the crime did occur on Canadian soil, diplomatically it would have made sense for China to extradite him or at least allow Canada to pick him up for trial.

I generally lean towards a "guilty" verdict when the person decides to flee the country to escape the authorities.
 
SLM
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Re: Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

Sep 29th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

China can still send him back after it is through with him.

And why the heck would we want him? Don't we always try to get the criminals deported after they do their time?

Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

I generally lean towards a "guilty" verdict when the person decides to flee the country to escape the authorities.

It might be more of a probability, but running doesn't necessarily equate to guilt, just fear.
 
shadowshiv
Free Thinker
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Re: Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

Sep 29th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post




It might be more of a probability, but running doesn't necessarily equate to guilt, just fear.

That's true, but running as far as he did smells of guilt to me.
 
SLM
No Party Affiliation
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Re: Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

Sep 29th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

That's true, but running as far as he did smells of guilt to me.

Yeah, I don't doubt his guilt at all myself. Just thinking of it as being in a foreign country and being accused of a crime, I think a lot of people might 'run home' as it were.
 
CDNBear
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Re: Beijing court finds boyfriend guilty of student's murder in B.C.

Sep 29th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

While this case is unusual, justice appears to have been served, which is more important than who gets to prosecute and incarcerate the offender.

Gladue.
 

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