Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza


Goober
Free Thinker
#811
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Am I back on the pic list please.....
 
earth_as_one
#812
*t it for tat reprisals between Gaza and Israel. As per usual, the MSM reports only the Israeli version of events... which leaves out the part about Israeli forces entering Gaza and during operations, shooting and killing a Gazan child playing football with his friends in front of his house. I guess the family didn't take that murder/accident so well, as the next day someone in Gaza fired an anti-Tank weapon at an Israeli armored vehicle along the border injuring 4 Israeli soldiers.

Israel’s Latest Assault on Gaza: The Lie of Who Started It « Antiwar.com Blog


Meanwhile last week in Palestine.
Friday November 09, 2012

Besides the weekly non-violent protests against the ongoing and illegal Israeli confiscation of Palestinian land and home demolitions across the West bank:
On Sunday evening, a young Palestinian man was shot and killed by Israeli army fire east of the al-Boreij refu gee camp, in central Gaza.

The man was left to bleed to death for six hours as the soldiers prevented a Palestinian ambulance crew from reaching him. Local sources said that Ahmad an-Nabaheen, 20, was injured by rounds of live ammunition, fired at him by Israeli soldiers, as he approached the border fence.

In the West Bank this week army invasions were focused in the cities of Nablus and Jenin, northern West Bank and Hebron in the south. Two limited invasions were reported at the borders near Gaza City as well.

Among those arrested this week from the West Bank was the wife of the Palestinian prisoner, Bassam al-Sa'di, who in turn went on hunger strike this week in protest of the arresting of his wife.

Moreover Israeli soldiers demolished, Tuesday, two Palestinian homes, a barn and two wells, and handed demolition orders against four more homes, in the villages of Ad-Deerat and Al-Jawaya, south of Hebron, in the southern part of the West Bank.

The army wants to evict the Palestinians in order to declare the area as a closed military zone, to be used for training.

Elsewhere, Israeli settlers attacked Palestinian farmers near the southern West Bank city of Hebron, on Thursday. Famers told local news that armed settlers attacked on Thursday midday them and stole their olives that they harvested all morning.

In another incident earlier on Thursday morning Israeli army bulldozers uprooted around 30 olive trees that belong to farmers from Nahlaeen village near the southern West Bank city of Bethlehem.

Witnesses said that soldiers surrounded the village and did not allow farmers to reach their lands as bulldozers uprooted the trees.


This Week in Palestine week 45 2012 - International Middle East Media Center

The week before that:

On Sunday at dawn, the army assassinated Suleiman Al-Qarra, 27, a member of the Al-Qassam Brigades, and wounded another resident, in an air strike that took place as fighters clashed with soldiers invading an area east of Khan Younis.

The Israeli Air Force carried out, late on Sunday evening, at least four airstrikes targeting different areas in the Gaza Strip causing excessive damage; one injury was reported. In another attack one resident was wounded, on Monday morning, after being hit by fragments of a missile fired by the Israeli Air Force into an agricultural land in Al-Karama area, northwest of Gaza City.

Later in the week Palestinian medical sources in the Gaza Strip reported, Friday, that one resident was seriously injured by a shell fired by the Israeli army into Juhr Ed-Deek area, in central Gaza.

Israeli soldiers killed, over the last week, nine Palestinians, and wounded at least 14 others, some seriously, in a series of air strike and bombardment targeting the coastal region.

From its part the Al-Qassam Brigades this week fired several mortars at Israeli targets across the border with Gaza. The Brigades issued a press release stating that the firing of the shells comes in retaliation to the ongoing Israeli military escalation against the coastal region. The shells cased damage but no injuries, Israeli sources reported.

In the West Bank this week, Israeli military invasions were focused around Hebron and Bethlehem cities, in the south and the cities of Ramallah and Nablus, central and northern West Bank. during these invasions at least 20 Palestinian civilians were arrested by Israeli soldiers.

Elsewhere, Hala Abu Ayiash, 11 years old, was injured on Wednesday when an Israeli settler rammed her near the southern West Bank city of Hebron. According to local sources Abu Ayiash was hit by the settler near the Jerusalem-Hebron road. She was moved to a hospital after sustaining critical wounds, local sources added.

Meanwhile the Israeli military freed this week Hassan Al Safadi, 33, years old, after spending 10 years under military administrative detention. Al Safadi went on hunger strike early in the year for 93 days then went back and did 73 days of hunger strike when the army refused to release him in July and extended his detention for additional 6 month. Al Safadi was welcomed with celebrations by his family and friends at his hometown Nablus, northern West Bank.

In other news, the Israeli human rights group, Peace Now, reported on Monday of this week that the Israeli state has approved 180 settlers housing units to be build in illegal settlements inside occupied east Jerusalem. According to peace now the houses will be dedicated to soldiers and police officers.

Moreover later in the week the Israeli military demolished three Palestinian homes. One home was leveled at the village of Beit Omer near Hebron and two in the west Bank city of Jericho. The army claimed that the three homes are built without the needed permission.


This Week in Palestine week 44 2012 - International Middle East Media Center
 
gore0bsessed
#813
 
CDNBear
+1
#814
“The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews [killing the Jews], when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Musims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.”

Hamas Covenant.
 
earth_as_one
#815
This week in Palestine. This source has a very curious perspective on the conflict. Its pro-non-violence which I like, comes from inside Palestine and low budget. Its like 4 people sharing a laptiop, reporting on local events while trying to maintain high journalistic standards. This source has a very unusual slant and they make mistakes. Its like a ham radio broadcast from the 1980's.

Welcome to this Week in Palestine, a service of the International Middle East Media Center, IMEMC News - International Middle East Media Center, for November 24thth to the 30th, 2012

The UN General Assembly voted this week to upgrade the status of Palestine observer mission to a non-member state and Israel responds by announcing plans to build 3000 settler units in the West Bank. These stories and more, coming up, stay tuned.

The Nonviolence Report

Let’s us begin our weekly report with nonviolent activities organized in West Bank. anti wall protests this Friday was in celebration of the Un General assembly to grant Palestine a nonmember state status. IMEMC’s Salam Qumsiyeh has the story:

On Friday villagers and international and Israeli supporters organized protests at the villages of Bil’in Ni’lin and al Nabi Saleh in central West Bank, as well as Al Ma’ssara village in southern West Bank in addition to Kufer Kadum, in the north.

Three civilians were slightly wounded, when Israeli soldiers used tear gas and rubber-coated steel bullets to suppress the weekly anti wall protest at the village of al Nabi Saleh. Troops attacked the villagers and their supporters before they even left the village.

Three young men were hit with rubber coated steel bullets while many were treated for the effects of tear gas inhalation. this week the protest ended with clashes between local youth and invading Israeli forces.

Two men were injured on Friday at the nearby Bil’in and Ni’lin. Villagers and their international supporter managed to reach the Israeli wall built on lands owned by local farmers. Soldiers stationed there fired tear gas and rubber-coated steel bullets. Two civilian sustained light wounds in Bil’in when they were hit directly by rubber-coated steel bullets.

In Kufer Kadum village this week, many were treated for the effects of tear gas inhalation, when Israeli soldiers attacked the weekly anti wall protest.

Also on Friday at the village of Al Ma’ssara, near the southern West Bank city of Bethlehem, villagers and their supporters protested the Israeli wall and settlements. Soldiers stationed at the village entrance forced people back using rifle buts and batons, no injuries were reported.

For IMEMC News this is Salam Qumsiyeh

The Political Report

On Thursday, United Nations General Assembly upgraded the status of Palestine observer mission to a non-member state. Local and international bodies have welcomed the move as a good step to end the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. From Gaza, IMEMC’s Rami Al Meghari has more:

In a unanimous UN vote on Thursday, United Nations General Assembly upgraded the status of Palestine observer mission to a non-member state status. Local and international bodies have welcomed the move as a good step in terms of Palestinian-Israeli conflict. From Gaza, IMEMC’s Rami Al Meghari has more:

Palestinians in both Gaza Strip and West Bank hailed the move and took out to streets, considering the move as a right step in the right direction. Palestinian president talked to world countries' representatives at the UN's headquarter in New York, marking the anniversary of the Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian people, in which world bodies voted for the upgrading.

Actuality " In Arabic".

“What motivates the Israeli government to continue its aggressive policy comes from the belief that it’s above the international law, the time has come for the world to clearly say no aggression, no to settlements and no to the occupation, that’s why we are here today. We did not come here to remove the legitimacy from an existing country since decades, which is Israel, but to ensure the legitimacy of a country that must be established soon which Palestine is"

In the Gaza Strip, the ruling Hamas party supported the move and voiced hope it would help Palestinians attain their inalienable rights to historical Palestine, especially UN General Assembly's resolution, 194.

The new Palestine status recognizes Palestine as statehood only on the 1967 border lines , including Gaza Strip, West Bank and East Jerusalem.
Professor As'ad Abu Sharekh is an independent political analyst in Gaza.

Actuality " In English".

" If it is going to sacrifice our rights, especially the right of return or our right to historical Palestine , then I think this is going to be jeopardizing our rights".
1967 borders do not represent the entire Palestinian homeland , which Israel occupied in 1948, right after colonial Britain withdrew forces from the Arab Palestinian territory. More than 7 hundred Palestinians were forced to flee to West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem and neighboring Arab countries. Palestinian estimates suggest that number of refugees stand now at about 8 million, including those inside and in the Diaspora.

From their parts , Israel, United States and other five countries, voted No to the status upgrade of Palestine. Israel and US want the Palestinian state to be realized through peace talks.

Since 1993, both Palestinians and Israelis have failed to achieve a durable peace, based on the 1967 border lines. Israel continued unilateral actions on the ground, mainly building illegal Jewish settlements or expansing existing ones in the West Bank and frequently attacking Gaza, hampering a real development. Palestinians have repeatedly called for an international pressure on Israel.

For IMEMC News, Iam Rami Almeghari in Gaza.

The West Bank & Gaza Report

Israel continued this week to violate the Egyptian mediated truce of last week. Israeli attacks on Gaza left at least two Palestinians killed and many others injured. Moreover in the west Bank the Israeli army conducted this week at least 81 military incursions into Palestinian communities in the West Bank. IMEMC’s Ghassan Bannoura reports
Israeli soldiers targeted Palestinian communities in the West Bank cities of Nablus, Jenin, Ramallah and Jerusalem this week. During these invasions, soldiers arrested at least 99 Palestinians, including 9 children.

In related news Palestinian political prisoners Samier Al Isawi and Ayman Al Sharawnah continued this week their hunger strike, which they started three months ago. Both are protesting the Israeli administrative detention and ill treatment by their captives.

Israel uses the administrative detention to hold Palestinians for unspecified time for no reasons. Family members told local media that Al Isawi and Al Sharawnah have also stopped drinking water this week.

In Gaza Israeli attacks continued even after a truce deal mediated by Egypt with Palestinians resisnatce group and Israeli was reached last week.

On Sunday a Palestinian child was wounded when the Israeli Forces at the border fence, east of Khan Yunis , opened fire at a group of children who approached the fence in the east of Abassan, east of Khan Yunis. On Monday a total of seven Palestinians were injured, including two children, when Israeli forces stationed near the central Gaza – Israeli borders opened fire at civilians.

Later in the week a young Palestinian man was shot, on Tuesday, by a live round in the chest after Israeli soldiers, stationed across the border, opened fire at him east of Rafah city, in the southern part of the Gaza Strip.

On Wednesday evening Israeli troops shot and injured, seven Palestinians east of the Al-Maghazi and the Al-Bureij refugee camps in central Gaza. Medical sources reported that all of the wounded Palestinians were moved to the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital in the Central District, and that one of them is in a serious condition.

Moreover, a Palestinian man was killed on Friday, six others injured, when a missile detonated near them, in northern Gaza strip. Local sources said that the missile was fired by Israeli plans during last week Israeli military offensive on Gaza.


This Week in Palestine week 48 2012 - International Middle East Media Center

Unanimous?
Last edited by earth_as_one; Dec 6th, 2012 at 12:34 AM..
 
earth_as_one
#816
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

Really.

And 750,000 Jews were booted out of Arab states.

Population exchange.

All done now, fair and equitable.

Unless you think the Jews want the right of return. lol

If you understand that justice requires only holding people accountable for their own actions, then the " responsibility transference" propaganda technique becomes obvious.

A common Zionist propaganda ploy is to blame Muslim and Christian Palestinians for their suffering. Its a version of blaming the victim.

No Palestinians were consulted when the British imposed a European refugee problem on them. Therefore, it would be unjust to hold them responsible for the resulting problems.

Palestinians were also not consulted:

when the UN tried imposed the 1947 Partition plan awarding most of their arable land to Jewish refugees who had recently fled Europe;

when heavily armed Zionist soldiers and mercenaries started the ethnic cleansing war which continues to this day;

when Israel declared independence in 1948;

when surrounding countries alarmed by the ethnic cleansing war next door and resulting refugee burden declared war against Israel;

when Zionist atrocities against them led to rising antisemitism in many Muslim and Arab nations....

I have no doubt that many Jews in Arab and Muslim majority nations suffered as a result of Zionist atrocities against Muslim and Christian Palestinians. But ultimately I hold responsible Muslims and Arabs who took advantage of the situation to steal Jewish property. (mostly during the 1950's and 60's)...

Seems to me you blame the Palestinians for stuff they've never done. What's just about that?
 
CDNBear
#817
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

Seems to me you blame the Palestinians for stuff they've never done. What's just about that?

You blame Israel for the actions of Hamas and like minded bodies.

What's just about that?
 
DaSleeper
+1
#818
Gawd.. you really are a dhimmi....you have to resurrect an old thread out of the blue... just to push your bullshyte propaganda....
How low can you go..
 
Colpy
Conservative
+1
#819
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

If you understand that justice requires only holding people accountable for their own actions, then the " responsibility transference" propaganda technique becomes obvious.

A common Zionist propaganda ploy is to blame Muslim and Christian Palestinians for their suffering. Its a version of blaming the victim.

No Palestinians were consulted when the British imposed a European refugee problem on them. Therefore, it would be unjust to hold them responsible for the resulting problems.

Palestinians were also not consulted:

when the UN tried imposed the 1947 Partition plan awarding most of their arable land to Jewish refugees who had recently fled Europe;

when heavily armed Zionist soldiers and mercenaries started the ethnic cleansing war which continues to this day;

when Israel declared independence in 1948;

when surrounding countries alarmed by the ethnic cleansing war next door and resulting refugee burden declared war against Israel;

when Zionist atrocities against them led to rising antisemitism in many Muslim and Arab nations....

I have no doubt that many Jews in Arab and Muslim majority nations suffered as a result of Zionist atrocities against Muslim and Christian Palestinians. But ultimately I hold responsible Muslims and Arabs who took advantage of the situation to steal Jewish property. (mostly during the 1950's and 60's)...

Seems to me you blame the Palestinians for stuff they've never done. What's just about that?

Here it is in a nutshell:

Israel is a democratic, reasonably free society.

Their enemies are increasingly (since the Arab Spring...lol) a bunch of Islamic nutcases, enemies to western thought, dedicated to jihad, without any tolerance for other religion, freedom, or women's rights.

The freest Arabs in the entire Arab Peninsula live in ISRAEL. And most of them realize it. Some even fight for Israel in the IDF.

Therefore I don't give a rat's **** over the argument of what happened in 1920, or 1940, or 1948, or even in 1967. Relatively speaking, Israel is the GOOD GUY in all of this, our man in the area, the frontier of western civilization, planted firmly in the midst of the enemies of free thought and liberty itself.

God Bless Them.

 
earth_as_one
#820
This is about freedom and justice. While Palestinians have neither, Israelis won't know peace.
 
CDNBear
#821
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

This is about freedom and justice. While Palestinians have neither, Israelis won't know peace.

Why does Hamas oppression and injustice fall on the Israeli's?
 
earth_as_one
#822
Regarding the good guys? I am sure both sides have both... as well as their evil war criminals.

Supporting the status quo means millions of people have no nation, no citizenship, no recognized rights (even to food, clothing, shelter or medicine) as the land supposedly reserved for a future Palestinian state has been wiped off the map and replace by the Israeli territories of Judea and Samaria.

Only ignorant or evil people could unshakeably support the Zionist State of Israel's ongoing oppression of millions of Palestinians which results from their ethnic cleansing activities.
 
CDNBear
+1
#823
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

Only ignorant or evil people could unshakeably support ongoing Palestinian oppression and injustice.

I agree.

Maybe you should check your defense of Hamas, and reevaluate your ideological stance.

ETA: Nice edit, but I beat you, lol.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
+2
#824
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

Regarding the good guys? I am sure both sides have both... as well as their evil war criminals.

Please expand upon this- as you imply there are good War Criminals............

Supporting the status quo means millions of people have no nation, no citizenship, no recognized rights (even to food, clothing, shelter or medicine) as the land supposedly reserved for a future Palestinian state has been wiped off the map and replace by the Israeli territories of Judea and Samaria.

Only ignorant or evil people could unshakeably support ongoing Palestinian oppression and injustice.[/QUOTE]

Only the ignorant can only see one side
 
CDNBear
+1
#825
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Only the ignorant can only see one side

EAO calls that objectivity.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#826
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

EAO calls that objectivity.

Been looking around - Can't seem to find any Good War Criminals. They all must have died off or something.
I have never heard of them before today. How about you?????
 
CDNBear
+1
#827
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Been looking around - Can't seem to find any Good War Criminals. They all must have died off or something.
I have never heard of them before today. How about you?????

I didn't read that the same way you did.

I read it as another glossy attempt to look objective while ignoring the obvious, in the process of his usual campaigning against Israel.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
+1
#828
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

I didn't read that the same way you did.

I read it as another glossy attempt to look objective while ignoring the obvious, in the process of his usual campaigning against Israel.

I read it in the same way- Self amusement on my part- Like his claim to being a non violent pacifist. WTF is that.
 
CDNBear
+3
#829
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

I read it in the same way- Self amusement on my part- Like his claim to being a non violent pacifist. WTF is that.

Although most people associate non violence with pacifism, EAO feels the need to emphasize the non violent part in a hyperbolic attempt to look extra special.

If only it weren't for the posts about how he supports warfare and murder.

Those kind of posts can really throw a monkey wrench into convincing people you're something you're not, lol.
 
Colpy
Conservative
+1 / -1
#830
PA TV: Jews were corrupt and brought tragedy on the Europeans - YouTube

WHO is acting like Nazis????
 
earth_as_one
#831
No doubt some Palestinians are anti-Semitic. Many probably were anti-Semitic before Zionism. I'm certain their experience with European Jewish refugees and Zionism hasn't made them less antisemitic.

I can also point to many examples of Israeli anti-Arab attitudes too:

Ovadia Yosef the spiritual leader of Israel’s Shas party which may hold the balance of power in the next Israeli government
...has referred to Arabs as "vipers," and in a 2001 sermon during the Jewish holiday of Passover, he called for Israel to "annihilate" Arabs.

"It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them," he said. "They are evil and damnable."...


Likely Shas supports the PEACE AND SECURITY chapter of the ruling Likud Party Charter (Likud won the last election and likely their leader Prime Minister Netanyahu will remain PM)

Likud Charter calls for wiping Palestine off the map:
The Likud Charter: wiping Palestine off the map

Then there is Avigdor Liebermann, leader of the Yisrael Beytenu (“Israel is our Home”) political party and main anchor of the ruling Likud coalition:

A Jewish Hitler?
Lieberman’s views are notoriously racist, and his rhetoric is invariably violent. He called for the execution of Israeli Arab members of the Knesset who met with Hamas or didn’t celebrate Israel’s Independence Day. His party, Yisrael Beytenu (“Israel is our Home”), accuses Israeli Arabs of “dual loyalty” on account of their ethnicity, and advocates the complete separation of the Jewish and Arab populations in Palestine – in effect, forced transfer. Lieberman and his followers vehemently oppose the peace process, support the militant settlement movement, and are proud partisans of ethnic cleansing.
A Jewish Hitler? by Justin Raimondo -- Antiwar.com

The root cause of this conflict is religious/ethnic based cleansing. Zionists like those I referenced in the Israeli government intend to rid the holy lands of all the dirty Arabs. Effectively they have wiped Palestine off the map and people like yourself do0n't care had badly they are treated.

If you believe that anti-semticism alone defines the Nazis then you could legitimately believe some Palestinians act like Nazis. Some Palestinians, not all.

But if you believe Nazis are more defined by willingness to use military might, ruthlessness and violence to impose racist attitudes, collective punishment and ethic cleansing on millions of innocent civilians, then the Zionist Israeli government are acting more like the Nazis.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#832
Quote:

The root cause of this conflict is religious/ethnic based cleansing. Zionists like those I referenced in the Israeli government intend to rid the holy lands of all the dirty Arabs. Effectively they have wiped Palestine off the map and people like yourself do0n't care had badly they are treated.

If you believe that anti-semticism alone defines the Nazis then you could legitimately believe some Palestinians act like Nazis. Some Palestinians, not all.

But if you believe Nazis are more defined by willingness to use military might, ruthlessness and violence to impose racist attitudes, collective punishment and ethic cleansing on millions of innocent civilians, then the Zionist Israeli government are acting more like the Nazis.

The root cause is organized crime. So while you continue to recommend treating symptoms instead of life saving surgery you insure perpetual negotiation with organized crime. The Nazis are gone for six decades most of the combatants and victims alike remember nothing of them especially since they live with immediate Zionist terror both Jew and Muslim or Palestinian and Israeli all victims of organized crime called Israel. Acting like a Zionist is the crime of this century. It is insane to even mention anti semitism in this case.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#833
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

No doubt some Palestinians are anti-Semitic. Many probably were anti-Semitic before Zionism. I'm certain their experience with European Jewish refugees and Zionism hasn't made them less antisemitic.

I can also point to many examples of Israeli anti-Arab attitudes too:

Ovadia Yosef the spiritual leader of Israel’s Shas party which may hold the balance of power in the next Israeli government
...has referred to Arabs as "vipers," and in a 2001 sermon during the Jewish holiday of Passover, he called for Israel to "annihilate" Arabs.

"It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them," he said. "They are evil and damnable."...


Likely Shas supports the PEACE AND SECURITY chapter of the ruling Likud Party Charter (Likud won the last election and likely their leader Prime Minister Netanyahu will remain PM)

Likud Charter calls for wiping Palestine off the map:
The Likud Charter: wiping Palestine off the map

Then there is Avigdor Liebermann, leader of the Yisrael Beytenu (“Israel is our Home”) political party and main anchor of the ruling Likud coalition:

A Jewish Hitler?
Lieberman’s views are notoriously racist, and his rhetoric is invariably violent. He called for the execution of Israeli Arab members of the Knesset who met with Hamas or didn’t celebrate Israel’s Independence Day. His party, Yisrael Beytenu (“Israel is our Home”), accuses Israeli Arabs of “dual loyalty” on account of their ethnicity, and advocates the complete separation of the Jewish and Arab populations in Palestine – in effect, forced transfer. Lieberman and his followers vehemently oppose the peace process, support the militant settlement movement, and are proud partisans of ethnic cleansing.
A Jewish Hitler? by Justin Raimondo -- Antiwar.com

The root cause of this conflict is religious/ethnic based cleansing. Zionists like those I referenced in the Israeli government intend to rid the holy lands of all the dirty Arabs. Effectively they have wiped Palestine off the map and people like yourself do0n't care had badly they are treated.

If you believe that anti-semticism alone defines the Nazis then you could legitimately believe some Palestinians act like Nazis. Some Palestinians, not all.

But if you believe Nazis are more defined by willingness to use military might, ruthlessness and violence to impose racist attitudes, collective punishment and ethic cleansing on millions of innocent civilians, then the Zionist Israeli government are acting more like the Nazis.


So Hitler according to you was only using Ethnic Cleansing- Best get the definition straight Buckey- and see how difficult is it to define in Law.
Then check out Genocide. That was Hitler’s agenda- Genocide.
 
CDNBear
+2
#834
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

The root cause of this conflict is religious/ethnic based cleansing.

Again, the root cause is religious intolerance.
Quote:

Zionists like those I referenced in the Israeli government intend to rid the holy lands of all the dirty Arabs.

And yet there's an Israeli Arab population, with a voice in the gov't.

Of which you already acknowledged.

Funny how soon you forget, lol.
 
Colpy
Conservative
+3
#835
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

No doubt some Palestinians are anti-Semitic. Many probably were anti-Semitic before Zionism. I'm certain their experience with European Jewish refugees and Zionism hasn't made them less antisemitic.

I can also point to many examples of Israeli anti-Arab attitudes too:

Ovadia Yosef the spiritual leader of Israel’s Shas party which may hold the balance of power in the next Israeli government
...has referred to Arabs as "vipers," and in a 2001 sermon during the Jewish holiday of Passover, he called for Israel to "annihilate" Arabs.

"It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them," he said. "They are evil and damnable."...


Likely Shas supports the PEACE AND SECURITY chapter of the ruling Likud Party Charter (Likud won the last election and likely their leader Prime Minister Netanyahu will remain PM)

Likud Charter calls for wiping Palestine off the map:
The Likud Charter: wiping Palestine off the map

Then there is Avigdor Liebermann, leader of the Yisrael Beytenu (“Israel is our Home”) political party and main anchor of the ruling Likud coalition:

A Jewish Hitler?
Lieberman’s views are notoriously racist, and his rhetoric is invariably violent. He called for the execution of Israeli Arab members of the Knesset who met with Hamas or didn’t celebrate Israel’s Independence Day. His party, Yisrael Beytenu (“Israel is our Home”), accuses Israeli Arabs of “dual loyalty” on account of their ethnicity, and advocates the complete separation of the Jewish and Arab populations in Palestine – in effect, forced transfer. Lieberman and his followers vehemently oppose the peace process, support the militant settlement movement, and are proud partisans of ethnic cleansing.
A Jewish Hitler? by Justin Raimondo -- Antiwar.com

The root cause of this conflict is religious/ethnic based cleansing. Zionists like those I referenced in the Israeli government intend to rid the holy lands of all the dirty Arabs. Effectively they have wiped Palestine off the map and people like yourself do0n't care had badly they are treated.

If you believe that anti-semticism alone defines the Nazis then you could legitimately believe some Palestinians act like Nazis. Some Palestinians, not all.

But if you believe Nazis are more defined by willingness to use military might, ruthlessness and violence to impose racist attitudes, collective punishment and ethic cleansing on millions of innocent civilians, then the Zionist Israeli government are acting more like the Nazis.

ISLAM is anti-Jew..............a concept you can't seem to grasp, despite the written words.

IF (and I do mean IF) the Israelis engaged in ethnic cleansing, then so did the Arabs, and it evens out.

Time for the Arabs to take care of their own, as Israel did.

And, as always, the question comes down to this:

Would you rather be an Arab in Israel, or a Jew in ANY Arab country??

The answer should inform you on which side you should be on......

In fact, you could ask Israeli ARABS, would you rather be an ARAB in Israel, or an ARAB in any Arab country, and a significant number would choose Israel.
 
CDNBear
+2
#836
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

Would you rather be an Arab in Israel, or a Jew in ANY Arab country??

I'd love to see that answered honestly.

But I highly doubt it will be answered, let alone honestly.
 
Goober
Free Thinker
#837
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Again, the root cause is religious intolerance.
And yet there's an Israeli Arab population, with a voice in the gov't.

Of which you already acknowledged.

Funny how soon you forget, lol.

That and the refusal of Arab States (1948 War and prior)to recognize the right of Israel to exist as a State.
 
CDNBear
+1
#838
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

That and the refusal of Arab States (1948 War and prior)to recognize the right of Israel to exist as a State.

I can actually understand their discontent.

But it was going to happen whether they liked it or not. They simply weren't in control.

The best course of action would have been to establish a Palestinian state right there and then as was offered.

They chose war instead.

It got them nothing but more war.

And here we are, decades later with no peace in sight. Dishonest, historical revisionist, terror defenders, masquerading as objective non violent pacifists, that spend day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year, parroting the same tired and disproved lies and propaganda over and over. As if one day someone might actually believe it's true.
 
petros
#839
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

Here it is in a nutshell:
Israel is a democratic, reasonably free society.

Until the Bolshevik Soviet Haredi came to town.

The democratic, reasonably free society wasn't prepared for Millions of Bolsheviks who want everybody else to work, while they sit around thinking about god and abuse their wives and kids.

The democratic, reasonably free society said "f*ck this noise" and stuck them in outposts in Palestine and sure as sh*t the Palestinians didn't want them either.

Just follow the time line. The Oligarchs have pumped a lot of money into creating the Israel they want.

A nice democratic, reasonably free society doesn't build monuments paying homage to Soviet Bolshevism designating the chunk of land Soviet Union.

That pisses me off to high heaven.

There isn't a sh*t filter complex enough to sort out Israel's internal cultural problems to really call it a truly free democratic society.

There is no freedom or democracy without unity.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#840
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

ISLAM is anti-Jew..............a concept you can't seem to grasp, despite the written words.

IF (and I do mean IF) the Israelis engaged in ethnic cleansing, then so did the Arabs, and it evens out.

Time for the Arabs to take care of their own, as Israel did.

And, as always, the question comes down to this:

Would you rather be an Arab in Israel, or a Jew in ANY Arab country??

The answer should inform you on which side you should be on......

In fact, you could ask Israeli ARABS, would you rather be an ARAB in Israel, or an ARAB in any Arab country, and a significant number would choose Israel.

I would be a Jew in Iran or a Palestinian in Palestine, home in either case. A more significant significant number is the number of Israelis streaming out of PALESTINE/israel.
 

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