Dr. Salim Mansur: The Multiculturalism Lie

Colpy

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"Herald: How would you define multiculturalism as a philosophy?
Mansur: The very problem is that multiculturalism is not a philosophy; there is nothing to it. It is like cotton candy; it is sweet, it is nice, it is fluffy, but if you touch it there is nothing to it, your finger goes right through. Likewise, multiculturalism has no substance. In my view it is not a philosophy; it is merely a statement that was floated that all cultures are equal and demand equal respect.
Herald: What is good about Canada's culture that we should not lose to multiculturalism?
Mansur: Canada is an integral part of what has come to be defined as the West. The West has it's own cultural evolution and historical development; just as the Chinese did, just as the Indians did, just as the Arabs did. In this evolution the west arrived at certain fundamental conclusions about itself and the way it looks at the world. At their heart is the idea of freedom based on individual rights and the rule of law.
This did not happen overnight, it came about through a long and difficult struggle. If you wanted to pin a date to it, you might say for our purpose that modern Europe came from the struggles of the last 500 years, from 1500 to now. During that time there were huge events and convulsions; the Reformation, Counter-Reformation, Renaissance, the struggle for enlightenment, the making of modern science, the French Revolution, the American Revolution. But out of the heart of this struggle there comes a thread, an idea that was to come to our modern times and that was embedded in the making of Canada and our constitution, the idea of individual liberty and freedom. In the American Declaration of Independence it was in one sentence, “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” That is our culture."

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This guy is dead on!

Read the entire interview, it is well worth it. His book is going on to my "to do" list........

Cultural relativism will destroy the greatest civilization on earth, if we are not very careful to preserve it.
 

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Cultural relativism will destroy the greatest civilization on earth, if we are not very careful to preserve it.

that's what these guys said:

 

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Cultural relativism will destroy the greatest civilization on earth, if we are not very careful to preserve it.


ROFLMFAO


The sky is falling, the sky is falling.


Multiculturalism includes western culture, hence "multi". It just means it's not "all about you".
 

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You do love that poster, don't ya??? lol

Apache?

Is that Geronimo on the right???

Later: google images....yeah, it is Geronimo.

Damn I'm good....lol
I have the t-shirt.

Western civilization is self destructing but it has nothing to do with multiculturalism. It has been built on an ocean of the blood of others - those that stood in the way of its greed and avarice world wide. The Apache were just a small example of that. A civilization that stands on the bodies of the dead is bound to fail just like every civilization that has preceded it. Until a civilization that comes along that is based on brotherhood, like the one that Jesus envisioned, civilization is doomed to self destruct.
 

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ROFLMFAO


The sky is falling, the sky is falling.


Multiculturalism includes western culture, hence "multi". It just means it's not "all about you".

How long, in the miserable bloody history of mankind, have we had the ability to choose our leaders???

How long has it taken to develop a sense of individual rights?

Both of these things are essentially aspects of western culture.

Yes, my culture is one of the "multi" cultures..........unfortunately it is the ONLY one that believes in multiculturalism. And those that actually take it seriously are a minority.

read the tag line below.....
 

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This did not happen overnight, it came about through a long and difficult struggle. If you wanted to pin a date to it, you might say for our purpose that modern Europe came from the struggles of the last 500 years, from 1500 to now.

And we're still struggling, comrades.
 

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Breathe in. Breathe out. Breathe in. Breathe out. Forget this and attaining Enlightenment will be the least of your problems.
 

mentalfloss

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Another problem with linguistic semantics that causes social disruption.

Where we get caught up in this whole mess is the difference between promoting and stifling a culture. The promotion of multiple cultural backgrounds in one territory is not necessary in order for the benefit of that state or even others surrounding it. However, the intentional stifling of a particular cultural trait, so long as it does not directly affect the security of others, is abject racism.

So, for instance, there is no obligation from any party to walk around and promote the tenets of Islam. It does not necessarily help that state, and in fact, may cause additional conflict in the region - as observed by many of our christian fundamentalist brethren.

By contrast, the intentional stifling of a harmless aspect of that culture - ie. forcing women to remove certain head dress, media sensationalism about their culture, or using deceptive terminology (like ISLAMICISM) - these are all concepts that range from simple ignorance to direct racism.

If we want to actually evolve as a society, we need to let go of useless promotion but correctly punish racism. And whether you want to accept that or not is up to you. But sooner or later, everyone on this planet will be some shade of brown, so let's at least make it a smooth transition!
 

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How long, in the miserable bloody history of mankind, have we had the ability to choose our leaders???

How long has it taken to develop a sense of individual rights?

Both of these things are essentially aspects of western culture.

Ahh, but so is collective decision making. A staple of multicultural environments, like my work place for instance. Corporations are routinely embracing multiculturalism as a competitive advantage.
 

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The Dutch government says it will abandon the long-standing model of multiculturalism that has encouraged Muslim immigrants to create a parallel society within the Netherlands.
A new integration bill (covering letter and 15-page action plan), which Dutch Interior Minister Piet Hein Donner presented to parliament on June 16, reads: "The government shares the social dissatisfaction over the multicultural society model and plans to shift priority to the values of the Dutch people. In the new integration system, the values of the Dutch society play a central role. With this change, the government steps away from the model of a multicultural society."
The letter continues: "A more obligatory integration is justified because the government also demands that from its own citizens. It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands. The integration will not be tailored to different groups."
The new integration policy will place more demands on immigrants. For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language, and the government will take a tougher approach to immigrants to ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law.

http://www.hudson-ny.org/2219/netherlands-abandons-multiculturalism