The Flotilla....IDF Actions Validated!

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You know, I find that Israel takes an awful beating on every action they take..........usually top be vindicated after the news frenzy fades away.......

Examples:

The Great Jenin Massacre: never happened, a Palestinian con job.

Operation Cast Lead : the Goldstone Report Repudiated, HAMAS admitting at least 50% of the casualties were militants.

The Gaza Flotilla Massacre : A turkish author on board publishes a book that agrees with the IDF version of events...

And NOW!!!!!

The now completed UN Inquiry on last year’s Gaza flotilla incident aboard the Mavi Marmara found that Israel’s blockade of Hamas-ruled Gaza is legal and the Israeli government owes no apology or reparation to Turkey. The UN investigative committee, headed by former Prime Minister of New Zealand and internationally renowned jurist, Geoffrey Palmer, actually criticizes Turkey for not doing enough to prevent the flotilla from setting sail and for also providing a somewhat anaemic and lacking investigation into the events of May 2010.
Now the part that is going to really take the starch out of the flotilla activist’s kafiyehs is that in its examination of the Turkel Committee’s report – the committee conducting Israel’s official investigation – aided by Nobel Peace Prize winner David Trimble and former Canadian Forces former Judge Advocate General, Ken Watkin QC, is its conclusion that the Israeli investigation (in stark contrast to
Turkey’s) was conducted in a professional and independent manner.

Michael Ross: UN rules that Israeli blockade is legal in blow to failing flotilla | Full Comment | National Post

The blockade is legal.

As anyone with a functioning intellect that bothered to look up the rules, already knew.

Israel once again, as usual, vindicated.

It has not been a good year for the Jew-haters.
 

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There seems to be a very strong correlation between the right and fighting "anti-semitism".

Hmm.. I wonder why that is... Hmmm...
 

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There seems to be a very strong correlation between the right and fighting "anti-semitism".

Hmm.. I wonder why that is... Hmmm...

Yeah, amazing, isn't it?

I can remember when Jews weren't allowed into "respectable" clubs, and Israel was the darling of the left, with its Kibbutz and history of Jewish persecution by the fascists.

Now the left are the intolerant, racist bastards.

Especially in the universities......

Anti-Semitism growing threat on campuses: group | News | National Post

And can anyone sane even begin to understand the stupidity of groups like "Queers Against Israeli Apartheit"......when homosexuality is one of the few reasons Israel will accept refugees from the territories....because they are killed regularly by the Palestinians......and Israels has complete gay rights......
 

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Start doing gay weddings in the Christian areas of Nazareth and off to Israeli immigration they go two by two.

Noah's Gay Ark Femme Floatilla. Tel Aviv no doubt has gay beaches they could land on.

It beats blowing yourself to bits.

Yup here we go. Hilton beach. It's a mix of dog beach and gay beach. If they wait until the dog people are gone they'll be greeted by gays or gays with dogs.

I hope the dogs are friendly.
 
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You know, I find that Israel takes an awful beating on every action they take..........usually top be vindicated after the news frenzy fades away.......


Operation Cast Lead : the Goldstone Report Repudiated, HAMAS admitting at least 50% of the casualties were militants.

Does that mean at least, potentially MORE than 50% of the casualties were civilians? How is that a good record?

The Gaza Flotilla Massacre : A turkish author on board publishes a book that agrees with the IDF version of events...

Case settled then, a Turkish man agrees with IDF. Forget all the people who were on the Flotilla that have contradicting stories of what happened, including U.S veterans.

YouTube - ‪Ken Mayers, U.S. Boat to Gaza Passenger‬‏


Michael Ross: UN rules that Israeli blockade is legal in blow to failing flotilla | Full Comment | National Post

The blockade is legal.

As anyone with a functioning intellect that bothered to look up the rules, already knew.

You can pretend it's legal all you want, who cares really. It's immoral and that's not deniable.
You can argue the legality of how American's use torture in Guantanamo but does it make it right?
 

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Does that mean at least, potentially MORE than 50% of the casualties were civilians? How is that a good record?



Case settled then, a Turkish man agrees with IDF. Forget all the people who were on the Flotilla that have contradicting stories of what happened, including U.S veterans.

YouTube - ‪Ken Mayers, U.S. Boat to Gaza Passenger‬‏




You can pretend it's legal all you want, who cares really. It's immoral and that's not deniable.
You can argue the legality of how American's use torture in Guantanamo but does it make it right?

First, yes 50% civilian casualties is not only good........it is exceptional.......

"According to a 2001 study by the International Committee of the Red Cross, the civilian to soldier death ratio in wars fought since the mid-20th century has been 10:1, meaning ten civilian deaths for every soldier death.[8] Throughout the 20th century and into the 21st, the number of civilian casualties as a proportion of total casualties has been rising."

Civilian casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, Israel managed to limit civilian casualties to one tenth the mean.........despite Hamas using civilians as human shields, despite the battle taking place in the most densely populated place on earth..........and despite the fact Hamas was constantly foiring rockets at Israeli civilians.......

The Israelis are the good guys. Drives you nuts, doesn't it??? :)

Secondly, the Turk was not just some Turk, but a journalist, a Muslim, and he was aboard the ship.....

Israpundit » Blog Archive » Turkish Journalist Vindicates Israel

Thirdly, the guy you show the vid for.....what a piece of work! The Holocaust killed one third of the Jews on earth...........over half the Jews of Europe.....the Palestinian territories meanwhile, enjoy a life expectancy well above the world average, and better than the neighbouring Arab countries.......to compare Israel to the Nazis is to prove yourself at best a useful idiot, and at worst Jew-hating scum.

Fourth....I don't have to pretend the blockade is legal: it IS legal.........it is the flotilla morons that are claiming it is illegal that are deluded.

Fifth: Self-defense, even by Jews, is not unethical.

Sixth........Nowhere, that is AT NO TIME will you ever see me defend torture, by the USA, by its satellite states, or by our enemies. Extreme physical coercion is simply beyond the Pale, there is no excuse for it. You should know that much about me by now.
 

petros

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Port of Alexandria is just a hop skip and jump and highway convoy do able. International inspection of the goods with all giving a thumbs up, on the goods go to Gaza.

Why is that so hard to pull off?

I'm sure even the ADL would jump on the bandwagon if it were all above table.
 

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First, yes 50% civilian casualties is not only good........it is exceptional.......

"According to a 2001 study by the International Committee of the Red Cross, the civilian to soldier death ratio in wars fought since the mid-20th century has been 10:1, meaning ten civilian deaths for every soldier death.[8] Throughout the 20th century and into the 21st, the number of civilian casualties as a proportion of total casualties has been rising."

Civilian casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, Israel managed to limit civilian casualties to one tenth the mean.........despite Hamas using civilians as human shields, despite the battle taking place in the most densely populated place on earth..........and despite the fact Hamas was constantly foiring rockets at Israeli civilians.......

The Israelis are the good guys. Drives you nuts, doesn't it??? :)

LOL, 10:1 is a terrible ratio. on the rise too apparently...
50% or more casualties being civilians is terrible. ..

This isn't a good thing at all but you seem to think it is.. lmao....
"Wow Israel is really exceptional only half (possibly more than half) the casualties were civilians"... lmfao..."They're definitely the good guys"... hahahaha...this is nonsense , act like you have a brain please.
How many Israeli civilians died from Hamas rockets? Not even a fraction of the Palestinian civilians the IDF have slaughtered I'm sure.....

Secondly, the Turk was not just some Turk, but a journalist, a Muslim, and he was aboard the ship.....

Israpundit » Blog Archive » Turkish Journalist Vindicates Israel

What is this website? These Israeli flags scream "WE'RE A BIAS SOURCE OF INFORMATION", non-Zionist links please.

Thirdly, the guy you show the vid for.....what a piece of work! The Holocaust killed one third of the Jews on earth...........over half the Jews of Europe.....the Palestinian territories meanwhile, enjoy a life expectancy well above the world average, and better than the neighbouring Arab countries.......to compare Israel to the Nazis is to prove yourself at best a useful idiot, and at worst Jew-hating scum.

Do I have to tell you to act like you have a brain again? You honestly believe life expectancy is an efficient way to gauge standard of living? Why does Israel live 8 years on average longer than their Palestinian neighbours?
Occupied Palestinian Territories are ranked 97 on the Human Development Index while their neighbours, Israel, are ranked 15!
List of countries by Human Development Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fourth....I don't have to pretend the blockade is legal: it IS legal.........it is the flotilla morons that are claiming it is illegal that are deluded

It's probably not , but that's irrelevant if it's legal or not, because it's completely immoral.... it's stunts economic growth and creates problems such as making it harder to get proper medical care in the Palestinian territories.


Fifth: Self-defense, even by Jews, is not unethical.

There is nothing about slaughtering Palestinian citizens that correlates to self-defense.


Sixth........Nowhere, that is AT NO TIME will you ever see me defend torture, by the USA, by its satellite states, or by our enemies. Extreme physical coercion is simply beyond the Pale, there is no excuse for it. You should know that much about me by now.

True, stop stopping Israel's terrorist actions then.
 

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Case settled then, a Turkish man agrees with IDF. Forget all the people who were on the Flotilla that have contradicting stories of what happened, including U.S veterans.

Wait a second... aren't US Veterans a bunch of moronic blood thirsty killers?
 

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A man so slow he probably has to whistle before he goes to the toilet so he knows which end to **** through!
 

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LOL, 10:1 is a terrible ratio. on the rise too apparently...
50% or more casualties being civilians is terrible. ..

This isn't a good thing at all but you seem to think it is.. lmao....
"Wow Israel is really exceptional only half (possibly more than half) the casualties were civilians"... lmfao..."They're definitely the good guys"... hahahaha...this is nonsense , act like you have a brain please.
How many Israeli civilians died from Hamas rockets? Not even a fraction of the Palestinian civilians the IDF have slaughtered I'm sure.....



What is this website? These Israeli flags scream "WE'RE A BIAS SOURCE OF INFORMATION", non-Zionist links please.



Do I have to tell you to act like you have a brain again? You honestly believe life expectancy is an efficient way to gauge standard of living? Why does Israel live 8 years on average longer than their Palestinian neighbours?
Occupied Palestinian Territories are ranked 97 on the Human Development Index while their neighbours, Israel, are ranked 15!
List of countries by Human Development Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



It's probably not , but that's irrelevant if it's legal or not, because it's completely immoral.... it's stunts economic growth and creates problems such as making it harder to get proper medical care in the Palestinian territories.




There is nothing about slaughtering Palestinian citizens that correlates to self-defense.




True, stop stopping Israel's terrorist actions then.

50% civilian casualties is a pity........perhaps Hamas should stop attacking Israel, then they wouldn't be fully responsible for the inevitable consequences. BTW, while 50% civilian casualties is a tragedy, it is 10 times better than what is normally expected in modern war. It is absolute proof that Israel took every bit of care possible to avoid killing non-combatants.

Which is the point.

Makes no difference how many Israeli citizens died from Hamas rockets (14, if memory serves) No nation on earth would tolerate continued attacks on its population without retaliation.....and let me put it this way.......Israel can't help it if the Islamists of Hamas are morons.

That is a pro-Israel site.....if you wish, simply google the guy's name.

What, it is the Jews' fault they live in the 21st century while the idiot Islamists choose to live in the 8th century????? Now that is funny......for Gaza to climb up the Human Development scale they need to stop attacking their much superior neighbour........lol

And they need to stop breeding like rabbits.

BTW, Palestinians are a healthy bunch, thanks to Israel....now check this out.....not only does Gaza have a decently long life expectancy, the Palestinian Territories are EIGHTH in the world for obesity rates!!!!!!!! Yep, Israel is starving them to DEATH! lol

World Health Organisation:Obesity a Major Problem in Gaza and West Bank - economist.com by ISRAEL FOREVER on Myspace
 

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LOL, 10:1 is a terrible ratio. on the rise too apparently...
50% or more casualties being civilians is terrible. ..

This isn't a good thing at all but you seem to think it is.. lmao....
"Wow Israel is really exceptional only half (possibly more than half) the casualties were civilians"... lmfao..."They're definitely the good guys"... hahahaha...this is nonsense , act like you have a brain please.
How many Israeli civilians died from Hamas rockets? Not even a fraction of the Palestinian civilians the IDF have slaughtered I'm sure.....



What is this website? These Israeli flags scream "WE'RE A BIAS SOURCE OF INFORMATION", non-Zionist links please.



Do I have to tell you to act like you have a brain again? You honestly believe life expectancy is an efficient way to gauge standard of living? Why does Israel live 8 years on average longer than their Palestinian neighbours?
Occupied Palestinian Territories are ranked 97 on the Human Development Index while their neighbours, Israel, are ranked 15!
List of countries by Human Development Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



It's probably not , but that's irrelevant if it's legal or not, because it's completely immoral.... it's stunts economic growth and creates problems such as making it harder to get proper medical care in the Palestinian territories.




There is nothing about slaughtering Palestinian citizens that correlates to self-defense.




True, stop stopping Israel's terrorist actions then.

50% civilian causalities is not that bad since it is civilians who usually start the wars. Most Hamas rockets are toys, yet they can and do kill, the Israeli people are just to smart to get caught by them. Israel unlike Hamas does not hide behind its civilian population, they have a very unique way of fighting for the Mid-East. Israel uses their military to fight Hamas and at the same time protect the civilians. Israel does not target civilians, but it is hard to single out cowardly combatants hiding among civilians when they all look alike.
 

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You know, I find that Israel takes an awful beating on every action they take..........usually top be vindicated after the news frenzy fades away.......

Examples:

The Great Jenin Massacre: never happened, a Palestinian con job.

Operation Cast Lead : the Goldstone Report Repudiated, HAMAS admitting at least 50% of the casualties were militants.

The Gaza Flotilla Massacre : A turkish author on board publishes a book that agrees with the IDF version of events...

And NOW!!!!!



Michael Ross: UN rules that Israeli blockade is legal in blow to failing flotilla | Full Comment | National Post

The blockade is legal.

As anyone with a functioning intellect that bothered to look up the rules, already knew.

Israel once again, as usual, vindicated.

It has not been a good year for the Jew-haters.

Jew haters are much like the enviro weenies that keep protesting logging round here. What is right and legal does not phase them in their quest for donations from the gullible. Their motto is "a lie is as good as the truth if you can get someone to believe it. Better if it gets a donation"
 

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Jew haters are much like the enviro weenies that keep protesting logging round here. What is right and legal does not phase them in their quest for donations from the gullible. Their motto is "a lie is as good as the truth if you can get someone to believe it. Better if it gets a donation"

Isn't that the truth... the end justifies the means.
 

petros

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They should still try on the gay ticket.