Our justice system is based on the assumption that an accused is innocent until proven guilty.
....I think this "innocent until proven guilty" bullsh*t should be removed.
Our justice system is based on the assumption that an accused is innocent until proven guilty. If that is really the case why do accuseds have to post bail or remain in jail awaiting trial? I say you can't have it both ways. As it's not reasonable or safe to allow the likes of Pickton, Bernardo etc. to remain on the street while awaiting trial, I think this "innocent until proven guilty" bullsh*t should be removed.
I'm not really surprised. On a number of other threads you've wanted to hang people before their day in court. All I can say is hopefully people like you never get any real power in this country.
So we should just hang people from cranes like they do in Iran? F*ck the judicial process, I want blood justice!
If you are going to post you should post responsibly. Which accused did I suggest hanging before trial?
If you are going to post you should post responsibly. Which accused did I suggest hanging before trial?
"Innocent" people, should not be forced to raise bail or be locked up.
I seem to recall one about a cop caught on video. That you claimed was guilty and argued with me when i suggested that we need to courts to decide that, not you.
There's a murderer in your town Mister there were seven unsolved last year
There's a murderer in your town Mister how long has he been living here
If they hang 'em all they get the guilty if they hang 'em all they cannot miss
If they hang 'em all they get the guilty been a lot of problem solved like this
There's a thief in your town Mister this morning my milk was gone
There's a thief in your town Mister how long has this been going on
If they hang 'em all they get the guilty...
There's a cheater in your town Mister last night I saw him in a bar
There's a cheater in your town Mister is that the kind of people you are
If they hang 'em all they get the guilty...
There's a hypocrite in your town Mister I think I caught him in a lie
There's a hypocrite in your town Mister are you gonna let that go by
If they hang 'em all they get the guilty that's what you say we ought to do
If they hang 'em all they get the guilty but remember they're gonna hang you too
If they hang 'em all they get the guilty...
Tom T Hall
You should answer my question.
I did. Try reading the post.
Our justice system is based on the assumption that an accused is innocent until proven guilty. If that is really the case why do accuseds have to post bail or remain in jail awaiting trial? I say you can't have it both ways. As it's not reasonable or safe to allow the likes of Pickton, Bernardo etc. to remain on the street while awaiting trial, I think this "innocent until proven guilty" bullsh*t should be removed.
I did, who did I suggest hanging without a trial?
Read the post
I seem to recall one about a cop caught on video. That you claimed was guilty and argued with me when i suggested that we need to courts to decide that, not you.
You've made comments many times about locking someone up and throwing away the key without all the facts being known. You aren't unique, we all do it.
Read the post
Yep, I guess when a child is dead and we know who did it, I'm not too particular about getting ALL the facts- me bad.
So as you often do, you are talking through your hat!
You have a fuzzy notion of justice. How can you be sure who did it without the facts?
Yep, I guess when a child is dead and we know who did it, I'm not too particular about getting ALL the facts- me bad.
You have a fuzzy notion of justice. How can you be sure who did it without the facts?
JLM doesn't care about facts. He just wants to see somebody punished. If we get the right guy, I guess that's just a bonus.
Our justice system is based on the assumption that an accused is innocent until proven guilty. If that is really the case why do accuseds have to post bail or remain in jail awaiting trial? I say you can't have it both ways. As it's not reasonable or safe to allow the likes of Pickton, Bernardo etc. to remain on the street while awaiting trial, I think this "innocent until proven guilty" bullsh*t should be removed.
Lots of ways, D.N.A. eye witnesses, video. I'll admit I probably do get a little emotional on these type of cases, but that not the point of this thread. I just don't like the term "innocent until proven guilty" - innocent people shouldn't have to spend their life savings to defend themselves or lacking the funds remain in jail for months, often a year or more. That is the ONLY point I'm trying to make, but as usual one poster on here has to derail the thread.
That is the ONLY point I'm trying to make, but as usual one poster on here has to derail the thread.
. I just don't like the term "innocent until proven guilty" - innocent people shouldn't have to spend their life savings to defend themselves or lacking the funds remain in jail for months, often a year or more. That is the ONLY point I'm trying to make, but as usual one poster on here has to derail the thread.
I agree innocent people ideally shouldn't have to spend their funds or time defending them selves against wrongful prosecution, in cases like that, you hope it doesn't make it court in the first place.
Nice try but in the other thread about the cop, if I recall, you were pretty upset that the cop was still getting paid. Perhaps if you didn't flip flop so much your positions wouldn't be so confusing.
FINALLY a sensible response to the thread.
Oh f*** do we have to go through that again? I was merely upset because of all the evidence he was still on the payroll. He should have been taken off the payroll until the trial AND THEN if found not guilty be reimbursed his back pay.
People who are considered no threat to the community, or no threat to not appear in court, usually aren't detained. However, people charged with serious / violent crimes are usually detained awaiting trial, because they either are a flight risk, or pose a further danger to society if left on their own until trial. They are still innocent until proven guilty, but are considered to pose a significant risk to society if allowed free before the trial.
Meanwhile he lost his home becasue he couldn't make his morgage payments.
innocent people shouldn't have to spend their life savings to defend themselves or lacking the funds remain in jail for months, often a year or more. That is the ONLY point I'm trying to make, but as usual one poster on here has to derail the thread.
Oh f*** do we have to go through that again? I was merely upset because of all the evidence he was still on the payroll. He should have been taken off the payroll until the trial AND THEN if found not guilty be reimbursed his back pay.
OK, on that premise I have to agree with you and possibly admit that my thread wasn't 100% valid. I congratulate you on making your point and getting me to rethink my position without jumping all over me. BUT "innocent until proven guilty" still rubs me the wrong way. I view forums as a process, we throw thoughts out there, without having to worry about being 100% accurate and then through a process of fine tuning by participants we hopefully finally arrive at something that is close to the truth.
He should have thought of that before he kicked Buddy in the head and committed two other assaults on citizens.
