Is Society today too paranoid about Security, etc?

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I am so annoyed! I swear that media and , well mostly Media has really turned this world into nothing but a bunch of worry warts about things.

Oh GPS is a risk to your security,
a Computer is a risk to your security,
a Digital Camera is a risk to your security,

and on

and on

and on

like Why are we so bloody worried??

I certainly am not!!

why?? because I'm not stupid when it comes to common sense thinking.

HMM 1. lock your computer when you walk away. 2. Don't leave things lying around, 3. Know how these new technologies work!

4. Don't tell everyone everything about yourself!

I have never had to worry about my security EVER
The only people I know of who are paranoid about GPS systems are those who purposely do not want to be found..... either by the police because they're doing something illegal, or by their partners loading up some site to determine exactly where their significant other really is when they're away.

As for computers, I believe the majority of people out there are perfectly fine with the way things are now.... I think when it comes to computers, people are paranoid about restricting the internet and adding more surveillance over what you do on the internet...... and I find that many people would have worries about that..... after all, who really wants the police or someone else knowing what type of porn you search for most or knowing that you're a closet star trek fan?

Stuff like child porn.... sure load up all the security and police observations one can think of and jail those freaks..... it's illegal after all.... but when it comes to things that aren't illegal and are adult oriented (and you're an adult) then it doesn't matter what you do on your computer so long as it doesn't pose any risk or harm to others.

Digital Camera?

Did you just throw that one in just to fill in space, because who's paranoid about digital cameras? They're just like old film cameras except you don't have to continually buy rolls of film and wait for development.

Maybe Cell phones perhaps.
just because we think that the entire world is against us, we are paranoid.
I read an interesting note recently, about digital photocopiers...many of them store images of what has been copied.
well, some of the new, high tech $$$$ digital camera's do have some interesting technology out there that allows you to directly transfer files to a pc.

I just think that there's a big over hype on security and Paranoia these days. and it's being used to sell stuff.

Digital photos can reveal your location, raise privacy fears

By Mark Milian, CNN
October 15, 2010 10:45 a.m. EDT | Filed under: Web (external - login to view)

Many digital photos contain data that can reveal, say, via Google Maps, exactly where they were taken.

  • Images can contain the precise GPS coordinates for where a photo was taken
  • Pictures on Flickr, Photobucket and Picasa Web Albums can contain location data
  • Other services, like Facebook, TwitPic and Yfrog, strip that data
  • Digital photo experts express concerns over privacy implications

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(CNN) -- Skim through the photos on Flickr or Photobucket, and you'll find pictures of cats pawing at living-room sofas, children playing in backyards and mothers gardening at home.
Dig a little deeper, and you can unearth the exact locations of many of those homes, embedded in data within the pictures.
Images often contain a bundle of information and various traces left by digital cameras or photo manipulation software.
This data, called Exchangeable Image File Format (EXIF), is a key tool for many professionals. It can detail whether the photographer used a flash, which digital effects were applied to a picture and when the photo was taken.
EXIF can also contain the precise GPS coordinates for where a photo was taken. This information is readily accessible and can be plugged into software such as Google Maps -- leading some security and photography experts to express concerns about amateurs unknowingly disclosing private information, such as the location of their home.
"What could go wrong with that?" Roger Thompson, the chief research officer for digital security firm AVG, said sarcastically.
Thomas Hawk, an active Flickr user and the former chief executive of competing photo site Zooomr, said EXIF is an important part of his archival process. But he has also used that data to track down someone who was harassing him online and managed to coerce an apology, he said.
"I don't geotag any pictures to my house," Hawk said on the phone last week. "I think it's a huge concern. I think a lot of people don't realize or recognize what's in all of the EXIF data that they're publishing."
Most gadgets ignore the geotagging component of EXIF because relatively few cameras contain the GPS chips needed to tag them. However, many smartphones, such as those from Apple and Google's Android system, let users employ this feature.
Apple's and Google's systems ask each user once or a few times for permission to access their location in order to provide additional services. If they click "OK" on that popup, every photo they take is tagged with GPS coordinates.
Smartphones are fast becoming the camera of choice for many people. Cameras on newer phones have come to rival dedicated point-and-shoots, and many smartphone owners carry them just about everywhere. Smartphone sales have increased 50 percent since last year, according to a report by research firm Gartner.
Millions of images are uploaded to Facebook using the company's iPhone, Android and BlackBerry applications. The iPhone 3G is the most popular shooter among photographers on Yahoo's Flickr website, according to a report on that site.
Judging by the abundance of pictures in Flickr's database that include geolocation data in the EXIF, some smartphone owners aren't thinking twice about opting into their devices' GPS feature. Doing so can facilitate useful tools. For example, software like iPhoto and Picasa can group images by location and display them on a map.
But amateur photographers may not realize that this info stays with the image when it's uploaded to Flickr, Photobucket, Picasa Web Albums and some other photo-sharing services. (Facebook says it strips the EXIF data from all photos to protect its users' privacy.)
Pictures uploaded to Photobucket by one woman show her children preparing lunch and bathing in a kitchen sink. The location data, which is displayed directly on each photo's webpage, can be inputted into Google Maps to find a satellite image of her rural home in Edmond, Oklahoma. The woman couldn't be reached for comment.
"We added EXIF data a few years ago at the request of our users," Rob Newton, a spokesman for Photobucket, wrote in an e-mail. "To date, we have not received any complaints from users who were previously unaware of the GPS tagging feature."
Displaying the GPS coordinates on the page can be disabled in a user's settings panel, Newton noted.
However, anyone could still download the original file using a link on Photobucket and view the location info in Adobe's Photoshop or in software included with every new Mac and Windows 7 computer.
Flickr's and Picasa's pages don't show the coordinates by default. But the services similarly offer links to access the original files, which can contain EXIF.
"Having the ability to download the original version of photos on Flickr is an important feature for our members," a Flickr spokeswoman wrote. "However, we help people maintain their privacy by stripping the EXIF data of an image from view on the site and making the default control option to keep this information private."
Users who don't want their photos tagged with GPS data can either disable the option on their cameras or run the images through software, such as Photoshop, that can remove the EXIF.
"We realize not everyone wants to share this information with others," a Google spokeswoman wrote in an e-mail. She notes how to disable GPS tagging, but added: "This is a popular Picasa feature that many people find useful."
Some photo services, including Facebook, TwitPic and Yfrog, strip EXIF once a file is uploaded and don't offer a way for users to access the original.
For Yfrog, the lack of EXIF is a byproduct of automatic image optimizations done by the system, not something designed specifically with privacy in mind, Mike Harkey, a spokesman for the ImageShack-owned Yfrog site, wrote in an e-mail.
While Facebook's system compresses some photos, it doesn't do so for every one.
"For those that we don't compress, we still strip out EXIF data," Facebook spokeswoman Jaime Schopflin wrote in an e-mail. "We do this since users can unintentionally leak sensitive information in EXIF data."
Thompson, the security expert from AVG, commended these efforts.
"Chalk one up to Facebook for that one," he said. "One of the alarming things is that every [Facebook] application wants to access your profile and your contacts and your photos. So if they weren't stripping that [EXIF data], it would be particularly alarming."
Never mind the computers,anybody that puts their stuff out on the whirly web deserves what they get.What bugs me is the full on safety net for everybody,and kids are barely able to move.There's an add on tv,for some kind of fake cheeze and the little girl is riding her big wheel in the house with a helmet,in the house !! S'no wonder kids don't want to go out,they'er smothered with good intensions.
I think raising awareness of new software is not the same thing as being paranoid. There are honest, real life situations where not being aware that your new camera can do that is a concern.
The paranoia fed us by the media is designed to make us demand more security - Big Brother. I love the guy I heard on radio a few years ago who said, "I think it is wonderful that Canadians are willing to give up their freedoms for some security." There you have it folks, 1984 is just taking its time to snare you all in its clutches. Look around and you will see that most if not all and then some, has already been implemented because they convinced us that we needed it.
It was (I thin) Benjamin Franklin who said something to the effect that those who give up liberty for security, deserve neither.

But what the Heck does he know! He was just a damn....., well, not Canadian.
Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJackView Post

It was (I thin) Benjamin Franklin who said something to the effect that those who give up liberty for security, deserve neither.

But what the Heck does he know! He was just a damn....., well, not Canadian.

He had a point, and I'm fairly certain that Muslim Americans would agree with him.
Giving up freedom and privacy for security is a bad idea because in the end
you end up with neither as Franklin said. The other situation that develops
is the little city states of the 11 and 12 hundreds. When the system did
collapse there was no defence for people at all.
We are headed for the ultimate controlled state. Plastic money, cameras
everywhere, vehicle searches, even for .05% alcohol in your system you are
not entitled to a lawyer and there is no day in court in BC they take your licence
and you car. These laws are tied together. The justice system makes it the
norm, and people in charge point to facebook and other social sites and claim
privacy is no longer necessary and people are willing to give up private information
to belong.
Are we paranoid? some are, but its relative. I am not worried, about it generally.
Where I have concern is when the money system or bank accounts are compromised
and the institutions that own the equipment do not take responsibility for it.
I am also concerned that government agencies and so on can collect data for medical
reasons and it ends up in the hands of those who can deny people loans or
insurance based on the information even though it may be incomplete or somewhat
inaccurate. Security from a nation standpoint can be carried to ridiculous heights.
The old green, orange, yellow and red levels of terrorist attack were designed to
scare the hell out of people without accountability. From my standpoint, we worry
about the situations that are minor and ignore the problems with significant
consequences. But hey, we're Canadian, its part of our heritage.
lone wolf
Does security protect us ... or them?
Not all cell-phone camera, even those with a gps chip, will embed the gps location the photograph was taken in the exif data...

This is the exif data on a photo taken with my cell and it is equiped with gps which I never disabled

MakeLG Electronics
Model LG-CX265T
File Size 220 kB
File Type JPEG
MIME Type image/jpeg
Image Width 960
Image Height 1280
Encoding Process Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample 8
Color Components 3x
Resolution 72Y
Resolution 72
Software CX26TV04Y
CbCr Sub Sampling YCbCr4:2:0 (2 2)
YCbCr Positioning Centered
Exposure ProgramProgram AE
Date and Time 2010:09:26 18:07:21
Metering Mode Center-weighted average
Color Spaces RGB
Custom Rendered CustomExposure
Mode AutoWhite
Balance Auto
Digital Zoom Ratioundef
Contrast Normal
Saturation Normal
Sharpness Normal
Compression JPEG (old-style)
OrientationHorizontal (normal)

I don't know if certain phones will put the gps location in the exif data but for anyone who is paranoid that is easily fixed..

Right click on the photo...Click on properties, then details, then click on Remove properties with personal information
Then select create a copy with all information removed then [enter]

But you also might want to leave everything the way it is...because you can you can prove that you own a photo if someone tries to claim it as his own...(Happened to me once in a geocaching site.)
Give US Education Not a censored Nation!..Government Security ,..Not Fear based in obscurity...

So I Went to an undisclosed site the other day and a Damned Virus Scanner gave me a Virus! ..Then was gonna charge me $19.99 to download the Security Software..Inorder to get rid of the Virus it implanted..!! Unbelievable..!

Sometimes I download somethin off online(?)..And it don't work ..Yetl I still get Charged for going over my download limit..( What up with that?))

Anyway ..

Sometimes is good 2 relax.Wtch some online Tv.Games.Join in on some discussions,while listenin 2 some tunes n'TalkRadio.Oh..What's this ...mmmm.. Miss cybrspce...WOW!..Whatta MainFrame..(..Booo ,I know , yet another bad jk)

Long Live Cyberspace..Live ..Real ..In your Face(book) .(.Uncensored!...( With Warnings, Optional screening filters ,of course.))...

1.Obey the House rules..2.. Respect..)...Everyone will get along just fine..No need for All That security ..Security is more A power and control thing..!
Last edited by GreenFish66; Oct 15th, 2010 at 10:46 PM..
If you are that concerned about security don't put pics and personal info on places like photobucket, facebook and twitter. Shut your computer off when not in use too.
You said it TaxSlave..Leave Nothin' to hide..
Or build a bunker and join the Cheney crowd.
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Or build a bunker and join the Cheney crowd.

lol .Exactly ...Good 1..

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