Quote: Originally Posted by wulfie68
My outlook is pretty similar to Talloola's but I temper it down to mean:
a) be polite to older people you know nothing about, even in the most mundane things like holding a door for them, letting them have the right of way in the grocery store, etc.
b) until they prove themselves an idiot, rude or otherwise unworthy of that respect, give them the benefit of the doubt.
a. Why should i if they don't get the whole thing how is it they know more or think they know more without knowing or asking me.
b. i disagree as i am not a type of person to give free "respect out no matter what age"
Quote: Originally Posted by Ariadne
I was taught to respect elders, and for a very long time I did. However, when I came to be a young adult ... I discovered that some elders were slobbering drunks, liars, thieves, and despicable people. At that point, I decided that age is not enough to justify respect ... creeps that are young eventually become creeps that are old. Bad character is not purified through age, it is made worse.
actually how i feel but i been just doing it longer
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_one
That's how I interpret respecting your elders too.Quote has been trimmed, See full post:
As people age, they tend to slow down, experience pain and incontinence... and other indignities... I invite my elders go in front of me in a line up, hold the door open for them, smile and basically acknowledge their existence. I've learned a lot over the years from people who fought in wars, survived the depression era, worked in mines under dreadful conditions... Life used to be a lot more difficult. Also when these people die, we loose witnesses to history.
List of surviving veterans of World War I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Consider it a form of social payback, for the people who fed you and changed your diapers when you were a baby. Hopefully one day you'll grow old too and it'll be your turn to be treated with respect by default.
Societies are judged by the compassion and kindness to the weak and feeble. This toothless skull from an ancient ancestor may prove that compassion and respect for the elderly is an early human characteristic:
Toothless Skull Raises Questions about Compassion among Human Ancestors: Scientific American
Life might of been more harder back than but that is not our fault or our problem, the problem with what your saying i bold is that i hold every door i can for everyone. I am one of the nicest person on the planet but you piss me off you get my a$$ side and trust me sometimes its not pretty
Quote: Originally Posted by karrie
I'm going to assume, since you didn't bold anything in my post, that you are addressing the initial sentences of my post.
People can LOSE my respect by being asses, but, I don't start assuming they don't deserve respect. I start each person out assuming they deserve my best. THAT is how you earn respect in return.
I don't assume people don't deserve respect, i need to see them do something in a respectful way before i give them respect. You are suppose to earn respect... that the idea.. you don't give it.
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper
One of my best experience with young whippersnappers was a couple of years ago visiting my daughter in Toronto...after supper...I took a walk up Mt Pleasant to Eglington had a beer at an outdoor pub there and was on my way back to my daughter's place when I noticed a bunch of older teenagers(a dozen or two) waiting for a movie theater to open and they were acting out as teenagers will, pushing and teasing each other.
I contemplated crossing the steet, but with the traffic I would have had to go back to a set of lights
As I was getting real close to the group on the edge of the sidewalk close to the street one of the boys who noticed me coming jokingly pushed another kid out of the way and said "hey this guy is trying to come through"..and they all cleared a path for me to go through
As I went through I said tank you to the first kid with a smile to the others and went on my merry way.
There are still some well behaved kids in this world
Yup there also nice people around. you just got to find them
Quote: Originally Posted by Goober
I see your logic train is a tad off the rails - and yes I would qualify as getting on to be an elder - If I live so long
You want everyone else to give you respect first - then and only then do you offer respect in return -
So tell me how you earn it when others have to provide it firstly to you.
Showing repsect to others will gain respect for you from people who only see what and how you act and not even know you - Were you aware of that?
As to your other post about being an asshxloe - we all can do that at any age - the trick is as you get older, you try to do less of it.
acutally as i said above if you can fidn it. they can show some respect on asking me nicely to help or get something for them
like this lady who has a cane and a walker who lives below me. she very sweet and talktive and she drop some drink under her car she ask me if i could get it.
i did help her without a problem. that how she show me some repsect. that why i give her respect.