Toyota owners affected by this 2010 recall.

[Socrates the Greek]

Toyota owners who are affected by this 2010 recall

I own a 2007 Camry 4 dr with only 45000 klm, we bought it new and had no problems with the car this far, but looking at all the bad publicity this recall is gathering, it doesn’t feel good driving this car any more,

Moreover the irony is, for this winter I put on the car 4 Michelin snows to insure good traction on the road, and here I am faced with a bad problem that can have serious implications in terms of a bad collision. Hope not! But here is the leading questions, Knowing that my car may have such a poetical mechanical failure, does that hold me responsible knowing of such a problem and still driving the car in the event of an accident?. Will ICBC EVER BACK OUT FROM SETTLEMENT given all the strange anecdotes?

Question: Should I park my Camry and rent a car until mine gets fixed, and ask Toyota to pay for all rental costs?

And given this massive recall, sales suspension and all that crap, the value of my car has dropped from $22500 to 12500

Toyota should be on the hook for any depreciating lose as a result of this bad problem.

 

[TenPenny]

Relax, man, this has been blown all out of proportion.

How many Toyotas have had this problem in Canada, 5?

How does the accelerator feel when you use it - is it rough or sticky, or does it move smoothly?

If it becomes rough, sticky, or slow to come back when you take your foot off, make sure you get to the dealer right away. Otherwise, take a chill pill, and wait for your turn. It's been blown way out of proportion.

 

[Risus]

Don't be so sure. Toyota isn't telling you everything.

 

[TenPenny]

Don't be so sure. Toyota isn't telling you everything.

Oh, right, I forgot that every Toyota on the road is flying off at full throttle, and the brakes don't work either.

 

[Avro]

My wife has a Prius so she is alright.

I don't have a Toyota myself.

 

[#juan]

I own a 2007 Camry 4 dr with only 45000 klm, we bought it new and had no problems with the car this far, but looking at all the bad publicity this recall is gathering, it doesn’t feel good driving this car any more,

Your 2007 Camry will be running like a top ten years from now. Toyota has had a problem and they are fixing it. Don't worry about it.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Don't be so sure. Toyota isn't telling you everything.

And how do you know that? Toyota highly values its reputation for quality and reliability, and it seems to me the company's been very forthcoming about this. Personally it makes me *more* likely to buy a Toyota. Can you imagine GM behaving like this?

 

[Avro]

And how do you know that? Toyota highly values its reputation for quality and reliability, and it seems to me the company's been very forthcoming about this. Personally it makes me *more* likely to buy a Toyota. Can you imagine GM behaving like this?

We have already seen how GM and other junkie domestic companies deal with problems on vehicles.

Toyota has handled this really well.

 

[TenPenny]

We have already seen how GM and other junkie domestic companies deal with problems on vehicles.

Toyota has handled this really well.

Actually, no they didn't.

First, they blamed the floor mats.
Now they think they have a fix, but they still should reprogram the engine control module, so that if the brake is pushed while the engine speed is high, fuel should be cut off. Other car companies do this.

It was fairly badly handled, but it's certainly not as big of an issue as some make it out to be.

 

[#juan]

If you scroll down on the following link there is a list of Toyota vehicles involved in the recal.

Toyota Recall: List of models affected by floor mats issue : Product Reviews Net

I have two toyota cars; A 2001 Corrola and a 2007 Camry. I know what the problem is and it has never been a problem for me:

When you push down on the front of the gas pedal to accelerate, the rear of the pedal lifts up, making a space where the floor mat can slide under and prevent the pedal from returning to the idle position. The solution is to cut a bit off the back of the gas pedal or slice a bit off the offending floor mat.

This has never been a problem for me and I'm not going to worry about it. The above solutions are not mine and not from Toyota.

 

[Avro]

Actually, no they didn't.

First, they blamed the floor mats.
Now they think they have a fix, but they still should reprogram the engine control module, so that if the brake is pushed while the engine speed is high, fuel should be cut off. Other car companies do this.

It was fairly badly handled, but it's certainly not as big of an issue as some make it out to be.

I was comparing them to GM, ask anyone who was involved in the massive class action suit against GM because of their crappy gaskets that they still continue to make.

Pure and utter junk, Toyota has it's first major issue and they don't simply sweep it under the rug.

 

[TenPenny]

When you push down on the front of the gas pedal to accelerate, the rear of the pedal lifts up, making a space where the floor mat can slide under and prevent the pedal from returning to the idle position. The solution is to cut a bit off the back of the gas pedal or slice a bit off the offending floor mat.

That doesn't help the guy who drove his Toyota to the dealership, with the engine roaring at full throttle, with NO floor mats in the car.

Toyota Avalon displays unintended acceleration without floor mat
01/15/2010, 3:26 PM
By Mark Kleis

In a rather bizarre instance, a driver reportedly began to experience unintended acceleration from his Toyota Avalon and was able to drive the car to a nearby dealer with the vehicle still displaying wide open throttle, despite having the floormat removed. Dealer techs witnessed the problem and have reportedly offered to repair the vehicle free of charge.

According to a report from The Safety Record, on December 29, 2009, the driver of a 2007 Toyota Avalon experienced a bizarre case of sudden and unintended acceleration while driving on the highway, just miles from a local Toyota dealer. The driver managed to switch the vehicle between Neutral and Drive multiple times, while en route to the dealer in order to show the dealer the problem as it was still occurring.

The driver was able to reach the dealer, place the vehicle into neutral, and allow it to continue operating at wide open throttle. The dealer sent out a tech who verified that the floor mat was removed, and pushing the gas pedal had no effect on the acceleration. The dealer was unable to stop the wide open throttle and was forced to shut the vehicle off.

This incident was apparently not the first for the driver, either, who had been to the dealer before about the problem. The first time the unintended acceleration occurred, the driver was able to slow the vehicle with the brakes and switch the vehicle into neutral – where the engine continued to hit maximum rpms. At the time of the first incident, dealer diagnostics revealed no problems in the computer

http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-avalon-displays-unintended-acceleration-without-floor-mat.html

 

[Avro]

True, but you get my point.

 

[#juan]

That doesn't help the guy who drove his Toyota to the dealership, with the engine roaring at full throttle, with NO floor mats in the car.



http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-avalon-displays-unintended-acceleration-without-floor-mat.html

I got my info from Toyota. Obviously there are other problems.

 

[Risus]

Actually, no they didn't.

First, they blamed the floor mats.
Now they think they have a fix, but they still should reprogram the engine control module, so that if the brake is pushed while the engine speed is high, fuel should be cut off. Other car companies do this.

It was fairly badly handled, but it's certainly not as big of an issue as some make it out to be.

There was a report on CNN that there might be an electrical problem behind this problem and Toyota hasn't addressed the mainl issue.

 

[#juan]

I have to say that I bought both Toyotas new and other than changing oil and tires, wiper blades etc, I haven't had a problem. I haven't had to change a light bulb on either car. I wouldn't hesitate to throw a suit case in either car and drive across the country.

PS My wife just told me I could wash them more often....;-):lol:

 

[TenPenny]

I have to say that I bought both Toyotas new and other than changing oil and tires, wiper blades etc, I haven't had a problem. I haven't had to change a light bulb on either car. I wouldn't hesitate to throw a suit case in either car and drive across the country. My wife just told me I could wash them more often....;-):lol:

My wife would have a Toyota today, if the new Matrix had been built for short people. Instead she's driving a Forester. First non-Toyota for her since 1987.

 

[#juan]

My wife would have a Toyota today, if the new Matrix had been built for short people. Instead she's driving a Forester. First non-Toyota for her since 1987.

That is funny. Jan and I have discussed getting a Subaru for the next car, mainly for the AWD.....Subaru doesn't make anything else so they should know how.;-)

 

[TenPenny]

That is funny. Jan and I have discussed getting a Subaru for the next car, mainly for the AWD.....Subaru doesn't make anything else so they should know how.;-)

I've had a Subaru since 98 (now an Outback), and my wife got tired of me getting up our driveway in the snow, while she couldn't get her Corolla to get more than halfway up. So she thought about a Matrix, but couldn't get comfortable in it. Found a 1 year old Forester, and she's quite happy with it in the snow.

 

[#juan]

I've had a Subaru since 98 (now an Outback), and my wife got tired of me getting up our driveway in the snow, while she couldn't get her Corolla to get more than halfway up. So she thought about a Matrix, but couldn't get comfortable in it. Found a 1 year old Forester, and she's quite happy with it in the snow.

We've both driven the Outback. I think the decision will be made on the weekend. The choice has ended up between the Outback and the Toyota RAV4. The Outback is a better highway vehicle. The RAV4 initially seemed cheaper but if you have all the same options they are pretty close.