Inhumane treatment of a Canadian prisoner


benny_patrick7
#1
It is well known that original Dr. Mengele was killing prisoners, in Nazi concentration camps. I described below facts how Canadian jail doctor Liao was doing his best to murder me in Canadian jail (Fenbrook).

I had a holter test in the beginning of December in South Muskoka Hospital. The test was so bad that Dr. Moran, who did the test, was so worried that he decided to personally speak to jail doctor Liao. The date was December 14 and since then, jail doctor Liao didn't bother to contact my cardiologist in Toronto General Hospital and make an appointment for a new angioplasty.

In the mean time, my heart condition is deteriorating rapidly and if nothing is done immediately, I will die. On January 16, I was sent to South Muskoka emergency room, where I was offered to stay "for observation". There is nothing to observe. I need a new angioplasty, and I need it urgently. My wife has contacted my Toronto doctor, he is prepared to treat me, but he needs a letter of referral, but jail doctor Liao is refusing to write such a letter.

On January 25, jail doctor Liao asked me whether I would agree to undergo angiography if somebody else, and not Toronto doctor would do it.I thought that I was being asked about his preferences, so I responded in negative. Then Dr. Liao without any warning discharged me from the hospital under pretext that I was refusing treatment. When I was brought back to jail, I was not allowed to go to my cell, but rather placed against my will in so called observation room. If jail doctor Liao was so concerned about my health, why didn't he keep me in the South Muskoka hospital?

During this night, my chest pains increased so dramatically, that I demanded ambulance and was brought to the hospital again. This time jail doctor Liao refused to admit me to the hospital, though I clearly explained that I did not refuse any procedure. This time Dr. Liao claimed that my state of health didn't require hospitalization. I was brought back to jail on January 26 and placed against my will in segregation. For those who do not know what segregation is, it is place of harsh punishment for prisoners who misbehave – jail inside a jail, 23 hour lockup with strictest limitation on everything. Is this a proper way to treat a gravely ill who did nothing wrong while in jail?

My life is in danger. I repeatedly request to be placed in hospital and jail doctor Liao refuses.

During night of January 29, I had another incident of unstable angina. I was once again delivered to South Muskoka Hospital. I felt that my initial blood test was not good, because I was continuously pumped with some IV injections. What seems strange though is that doctors kept me almost all the time half asleep, so I was never told what was being pumped into me. In the morning of January 30, I was moved from ER upstairs and intravenous continued. Then later in the day of January 30, jail doctor Liao appeared and ordered me to be brought back to jail without any explanation. Right after that, I saw one of the guards exiting the room and signing some papers at the entrance. I suspect that this guard was signing false affidavit that I refused medical care, which of course never happened. I was not offered medical care and did not refuse any.

I was held in segregation of Fenbrook jail from January 26 to February 1. The official reason: my state is so bad that I cannot be allowed in general population, because I can die at any moment and they need to keep an eye on me. On the other hand, Canadian Mengele – Liao – claims that I do not need to be inside a hospital. Does that make sense?

And here is description of the most devilish trick which Liao did. He wrote a letter to warden claiming that my state of health is so bad and Fenbrook is so far from hospital that for my own safety, I need to be transferred to Kingston, where he claimed the response times, in case of emergency are shorter. Every normal person would have asked: if situation is so bad, why don’t you place me inside hospital. Then the response time would be ZERO. I’m already there. These bloody murderers do not want to treat me, they want to observe how I will be dying.

On February 1, I was transferred against my will to prisoner’s hospital in Kingston Jail, where again, I am being “observed” in 24 hour lockup of a maximum security jail, though my official transfer was in a medium security Collins Bay jail. Again, nothing is being done in terms of providing me cardiac care. No cardiologist saw me so far. And guess what? The official reason for transfer was “to provide me with safe environment”. Only Canadians seem to have mastered the art of murdering people which claiming totally opposite – providing with safe environment. Hypocrisy at its best.

If I would be able, I will give updates as to what will happen next.

Fabrikant
 
RomSpaceKnight
#2
I just under went quad bypass surgery. Might I suggest next time stay out of the rookers of the millicents (the penal system). I bet your not likely to get much sympathy. Some but no big out pouring of grief. Thank the gods you are not in the American penal system or worse Mexico's
 
L Gilbert
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by RomSpaceKnightView Post

I just under went quad bypass surgery. Might I suggest next time stay out of the rookers of the millicents (the penal system). I bet your not likely to get much sympathy. Some but no big out pouring of grief. Thank the gods you are not in the American penal system or worse Mexico's

............. or Turkey's, Iran's, etc. How about a Russian gulag in Northern Siberia?
 
Colpy
#4
Fabrikant?!!!!!

The psycho murderer Fabricant from Montreal, who terrorized faculty at the university for months, including threatening their children, before he went on a shooting rampage?

SUCK IT UP, PRINCESS!
 
RomSpaceKnight
#5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valery_Fabrikant (external - login to view)

Told ya not much sympathy. Your name is known now. Move on.
 
I think not
#6
WTF is this nutjob doing with an internet connection?

Nevermind, part of a Liberal Rehab program?
 
akhmel
#7
Every Canadian, even prisoners, whether we like it or not, are entitled to health care.


I don’t get you people’s arguments about “good thing you’re not living in another country”… You’re right: it’s not Russia or Iran, but it’s not an excuse for Canada to act like them.
 
RomSpaceKnight
#8
He is getting healthcare. The point is if he was not here he would not be. I bet he gets better care than a poorer mexican citizen. Plus now it is known who he is. He is a known poster to websites looking for "sympathy". We have no way of knowing if this is even true. He is already in prison for murdering people while claiming conspiracy.
 
L Gilbert
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by akhmelView Post

Every Canadian, even prisoners, whether we like it or not, are entitled to health care.


I don’t get you people’s arguments about “good thing you’re not living in another country”… You’re right: it’s not Russia or Iran, but it’s not an excuse for Canada to act like them.

Don't put your words in my mouth. IMO, criminals rid themselves of their rights when they commit crimes, especially crimes against regular folks.
 
Colpy
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by akhmelView Post

Every Canadian, even prisoners, whether we like it or not, are entitled to health care.


I don’t get you people’s arguments about “good thing you’re not living in another country”… You’re right: it’s not Russia or Iran, but it’s not an excuse for Canada to act like them.

You don't get it.

This guy is so incredibly manipulative......he constantly imagines plots against himself.......he killed 4 people, and the picture everyone saw of his arrest was him being put into an ambulance because he claimed he had chest pains.

There are two possibilities:
1. He is looking for sympathy or attention and lying about his supposed medical condition and the events around his treatment.
2. He is telling the truth about his condition, but as he has done so often in the past, is twisting every other action around him into some kind of plot against him.


The guy is nuts, and as despicable a human being as ever existed.

Put it this way: if the SOB dies of heart failure within the next year, I'll give you $50.

Worth every penny.
 
sanctus
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by benny_patrick7View Post

Ins Bay jail. Again, nothing is being done in terms of providing me cardiac care. No cardiologist saw me so far. And guess what? The official reason for transfer was “to provide me with safe environment”. Only Canadians seem to have mastered the art of murdering people which claiming totally opposite – providing with safe environment. Hypocrisy at its best.

If I would be able, I will give updates as to what will happen next.

Fabrikant

I am deeply suspicious of such claims. If a real medical emergency existed, I have no doubt you'd be treated. As much as your current living situation might be, to say the least, unpleasant, let's not forget that you are in prison for crimes you have committed. Had you not done the crime, you'd not have to do the time.
 
sanctus
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

You don't get it.

This guy is so incredibly manipulative......he constantly imagines plots against himself.......he killed 4 people, and the picture everyone saw of his arrest was him being put into an ambulance because he claimed he had chest pains.

There are two possibilities:
1. He is looking for sympathy or attention and lying about his supposed medical condition and the events around his treatment.
2. He is telling the truth about his condition, but as he has done so often in the past, is twisting every other action around him into some kind of plot against him.


The guy is nuts, and as despicable a human being as ever existed.

Put it this way: if the SOB dies of heart failure within the next year, I'll give you $50.

Worth every penny.

I'll add 50 dollars to the pot!
 
akhmel
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

You don't get it.

This guy is so incredibly manipulative......he constantly imagines plots against himself.......he killed 4 people, and the picture everyone saw of his arrest was him being put into an ambulance because he claimed he had chest pains.

I don't know. You weren't there, I wasn't there. He was. When you commit a crime, you go to a jail, not a mental institution, right? And where did that ambulance go? If it was in a hospital, then it would probably because of chest pains. One can't go directly into a mental institution; it doesn't work that way.

Quote:

There are two possibilities:
1. He is looking for sympathy or attention and lying about his supposed medical condition and the events around his treatment.

Why would he want sympathy? It looks like all what he wants is a procedure to done on him.
 
Curiosity
#14
A Holter Monitor isn't any indication of much more than a rapid and unstable heartbeat...

This writer probably contributes much to the heart condition in that he needs to calm down and
stop trying to con everyone. Angioplasty? He wants an angioplasty at the expense of the Canadian people? Nice try pie in the sky!

Fabrications and lies can do as much physical damage to a person who has to stay on acute alert to cover the tracks of deceit as any other physical cause....

He would probably complain if no coffee is on the menu....but it should be a necessary if there is a heart condition presenting. Take away his cigarettes too lol....

The doctor is going to cover his rear end no matter if the patient is a rich guy or a jail bird...
 
thomaska
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by akhmelView Post

I don't know. You weren't there, I wasn't there. He was. When you commit a crime, you go to a jail, not a mental institution, right? And where did that ambulance go? If it was in a hospital, then it would probably because of chest pains. One can't go directly into a mental institution; it doesn't work that way.



Why would he want sympathy? It looks like all what he wants is a procedure to done on him.

Maybe he could get get some help from here?

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Colpy
#16
Forget it, Thomaska......the lefties are too busy searching for and protesting about Guantanimo Bay prisoners with untreated hangnails.............or being interrogated by women in skimpy dress....OH the HORROR!

Being gutted with a rusty butter knife because you believe in God just can't compare......
 
sanctus
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by akhmelView Post

I don't know. You weren't there, I wasn't there. He was. When you commit a crime, you go to a jail, not a mental institution, right? And where did that ambulance go? If it was in a hospital, then it would probably because of chest pains. One can't go directly into a mental institution; it doesn't work that way.
.


Incorrect. If he had been found to be mentally unstable, he would have been issued to a mental institution for care. Why would he want sympathy? Why do they always want sympathy, these criminal sorts? So they can justify their crimes based on our empathy. "I wouldn't have raped and killed but I had such a hard life--boo-hoo"
 
darleneonfire
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by sanctusView Post

Incorrect. If he had been found to be mentally unstable, he would have been issued to a mental institution for care. Why would he want sympathy? Why do they always want sympathy, these criminal sorts? So they can justify their crimes based on our empathy. "I wouldn't have raped and killed but I had such a hard life--boo-hoo"


That's where we're at today. Poor criminals. Poor misunderstood people. Never a bit of pity for their victims though.
 
darleneonfire
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by akhmelView Post

I don't know. You weren't there, I wasn't there. He was. When you commit a crime, you go to a jail, not a mental institution, right? And where did that ambulance go? If it was in a hospital, then it would probably because of chest pains. One can't go directly into a mental institution; it doesn't work that way.



Why would he want sympathy? It looks like all what he wants is a procedure to done on him.

Oay, if he had not committed crimes he would've been a free man and he could've gone to a hospital. Do you feel equally sorry for the victims of his crimes?
 
m_levesque
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by darleneonfireView Post

Oay, if he had not committed crimes he would've been a free man and he could've gone to a hospital. Do you feel equally sorry for the victims of his crimes?

So because he is a criminal, it is ok for him to suffer??? Not very compassionate of you.
 
akhmel
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by sanctusView Post

Incorrect. If he had been found to be mentally unstable, he would have been issued to a mental institution for care. Why would he want sympathy? Why do they always want sympathy, these criminal sorts? So they can justify their crimes based on our empathy. "I wouldn't have raped and killed but I had such a hard life--boo-hoo"

Wrong. In order for someone to be found mentally unstable, they would have be seen by a psychiatrist first, then after recommendations are made, THEN they would go there. And usually, a judge orders someone to go there, so the person would need to go to court first. Nobody can go to a mental institution directly from the crime scene.

As far as sympathy goes, Fabricant isn't even talking about his crimes. He's talking about his health care. Usually, when criminals want to get sympathy, it is because they probably have a parole coming soon and want to get out. This guy isn't going anywhere.
 

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