Ok, North American food.....do tell.


Daz_Hockey
#1
Right everyone,

I'm gonna get this off my chest. Ok, we seem to have a lot of "brit bashers" here, although they probably wouldnt be bashers if they wernt sick to death with the amount of spam-like postings they get from a member who's username starts with a dark colour.

I know people have some opinions about the UK, some people have even been there, but what I'd like to know is this:

In my neck of the woods (and in fact most of Europe), most people think the worst tasting, most disgusting type of food you can eat is that of the north American variety. I came on this board and was shocked to find the disparaging remarks about my country's food....now, from a personal point of view, I've been all over the world, and in nearly every country, I've suffered from a dodgy stomach, the usual reason being the difference in the usual type of food I eat.

Now, The only place this never happened was North America, simply because the food was sooo similar to what I was used to, and no, I didnt go out of my way to "Eat English", I actually eat pretty much every regional dish I could. But to me, and from the stuff I've eaten elsewhere, pretty much everything I ate there, was similar to what I eat here, and the quality was similar.

So go on, I'm intreged, what's the best thing about American cooking, and also, how's it so much better than British cuisine?....really, I'd like to know.
 
Toro
#2
"Boil everything."

I'm an Anglo-phile - though a certain compatriot of yours makes it really hard sometimes - and the "English" food in England just wasn't good. Unless it was cooked by foreigners.

The English have given us many good things. Food isn't one of them.

Ever read Peter Mayle's books? He'll tell you why.
 
I think not
#3
North American food Daz is not something easy to pinpoint, at least not in the US.

If you're going to ask about strictly American food, you have Turkey, corn, squash, peppers, creole cuisine, clam chowder, baked beans. About all I can think of.

Everything else has come from all over the world (just like Americans) and have been assimilated.
 
karrie
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by Daz_HockeyView Post

Right everyone,
I'm gonna get this off my chest. Ok, we seem to have a lot of "brit bashers" here, although they probably wouldnt be bashers if they wernt sick to death with the amount of spam-like postings they get from a member who's username starts with a dark colour.
I know people have some opinions about the UK, some people have even been there, but what I'd like to know is this:
In my neck of the woods (and in fact most of Europe), most people think the worst tasting, most disgusting type of food you can eat is that of the north American variety. I came on this board and was shocked to find the disparaging remarks about my country's food....now, from a personal point of view, I've been all over the world, and in nearly every country, I've suffered from a dodgy stomach, the usual reason being the difference in the usual type of food I eat.
Now, The only place this never happened was North America, simply because the food was sooo similar to what I was used to, and no, I didnt go out of my way to "Eat English", I actually eat pretty much every regional dish I could. But to me, and from the stuff I've eaten elsewhere, pretty much everything I ate there, was similar to what I eat here, and the quality was similar.

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lol. the issue isn't north american vs english. the issue is cultural differences of ANY sort. in every culture, people like to eat what they are used to. they don't like change. we will pick and choose certain dishes that appeal to us, but will always find other dishes repulsive due to their names, ingredients, texture, flavor or smell. I happen to love tourtiere.... but most other cultures find the idea of a meat pie repulsive. and frankly, I can't blame them. if I hadn't grown up on it, i don't know if i'd like it either.
 
Daz_Hockey
#5
See, I dont dispute that, although I know the French reckon we have invented something gastronomically marvelous, so marvelous they gave it it's own name "Sauce du Anglais", custard, but the french think it's pretty tasty.

The fact that most of my countrymen and women now live on microwave or boiled food is not what I'm disputing, we have our own dishes, not that I'm a big fan of them, roast beef, lamb, roast chicken, Yorkshire puddings, Beef hotpot, Tomato ketchup.......

but what I am disputing is it's quality compared to north american fod, sure, compared to french or italian cooking (cripes, even indian cooking) it's tripe, it really is, but on the basis that my stomach would go crazy if the food was different (I do have a very touchy stomach and the slightest difference send me to the bathroom, and the fact that in all of north america, this did'nt happen, makes me think the stuff we eat is very, very similar to what you do...

Now I'd just like some examples if you really think your food compares to the french, or italians, otherwise, it's as good as ours.
 
Kreskin
#6
2 pure beef patties special sauce lettuce cheese pickles onions on a sesame seed bun. It doesn't get any better than that.
 
Toro
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

2 pure beef patties special sauce lettuce cheese pickles onions on a sesame seed bun. It doesn't get any better than that.

here here
 
Tonington
#8
I love meat pie! Maybe we eat it more in the maritimes...ALso the Acadians have this dish called Rappie Pie, I love it, my father thinks it's a shame to treat a potatoe that way.
 
Daz_Hockey
#9
see, that's what I meant, something original, and not something with fries, because if a hamburger, fried chicken, pizza or Hig fatty stuff is what ur gonna give me, I'm just not buying it.
 
I think not
#10
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see, that's what I meant, something original, and not something with fries, because if a hamburger, fried chicken, pizza or Hig fatty stuff is what ur gonna give me, I'm just not buying it.

Well I gave you creole cuisine. Comments?
 
Dexter Sinister
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Daz_HockeyView Post

but what I am disputing is it's quality compared to north american fod, sure, compared to french or italian cooking (cripes, even indian cooking) it's tripe, it really is, but on the basis that my stomach would go crazy if the food was different (I do have a very touchy stomach and the slightest difference send me to the bathroom, and the fact that in all of north america, this did'nt happen, makes me think the stuff we eat is very, very similar to what you do...

I'd guess that's probably a matter of hygiene in the food storage and preparation department, and possibly the water, not a difference in the food itself. What sends you running to the bathroom is more likely to be unfamiliar bacteria than the food.
 
Tonington
#12
I think fiddleheads are eaten elsewhere but they are a traditional dish here in the Maritimes.
 
Toro
#13
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Well I gave you creole cuisine. Comments?

Steak at Morton's!
 
I think not
#14
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Steak at Morton's!




Got that right!
 
Kreskin
#15
Subway, eat fresh!
Last edited by Kreskin; Jan 12th, 2007 at 09:23 PM..Reason: don't eat freash!
 
Daz_Hockey
#16
Firstly, yep, ITN you've got a point, Cajun cooking is great (maybe I've handed you a fate' complete there)...but the other question, perhaps reason my (as we call it here) my gypy tummy), well, that's always a possability, but generally, I can east the crappiest food you can think of (even raw meat) without having a bad stomach, as long as it's similar to my usual diet, otherwise, bang out the window.

So nope, I am a bit of a fan of deep south cooking (some of it.....not the gizzards!!!

I admit that even before I was in the US, I was a BIG fan of Arby's steak n cheese sanwiches (well, I was very privilleged to have the only one in the UK in my town)
 
I think not
#17
Cajun is not Creole. Cajun was a fad that has long since been abandoned (too spicy?).

Creole is good food.

Daz, what are you getting upset for? Because people don't like "British" food?

Pft, ever try Irish?
 
Daz_Hockey
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by I think notView Post

Cajun is not Creole. Cajun was a fad that has long since been abandoned (too spicy?).

Creole is good food.

Daz, what are you getting upset for? Because people don't like "British" food?

Pft, ever try Irish?

Nah, I'm not getting upset at all, I'm just wondering what the difference is, I never really noticed myself, so I'm always intreuged when people say "british food sucks", I just think..."does it?", I just wondered what poiniant dishes standed out...


really, I'm not upset, frustrated or annoyed in any way, just a question.

But yes, I see where my small-mindedness got in the way there, creole food is much different, and yes, I've eaten a lot of Irish food, helps with ur future sister-in-law being a very strict irish catholic
 
Riyko
#19
I hate north american foods X_X, but if I do have to pick I pick Chicken stuffing I could eat that all day long every day and never get tired of it. That and Cake Mix Cookies they are so yummy =3
 
karrie
#20
In thinking about what makes North American cuisine, and pondering over the fact that it all comes from immigrants, the truly 'North American' cuisine I enjoy is Mexican food.
 
gopher
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``` Well I gave you creole cuisine. Comments?```


EXCELLENT food!

Other good meals from the USA:

* Virginia smoked ham

* Baltimore crab cakes

* Manhattan chowder

* Southern fried chicken


Years ago there was a series on Public TV which dealt with San Francisco cuisine -- the recipes were very involved and cooking them very highly time consuming. But the meals were exquisite because they blended sea food, French + Continental, Mexican, and Californian dishes.

USA food is quite good. Anyone who denies it just doesn't know what they are missing.
 
selfactivated
#22
Sweetheart I found English food FAB! I loved yall's lamb, I adored ploughman's tea (I know thats not correct) Your cheeses are fabulous! Meat pies were excellent and Fish n chips in Black country was AMAZING! The deli in Cowes was so quaint and the olives and garlic was out of this world! I could go on.........
 
L Gilbert
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Daz_HockeyView Post

So go on, I'm intreged, what's the best thing about American cooking, and also, how's it so much better than British cuisine?....really, I'd like to know.

Montgomery Inn in Montgomery, Ohio's for the best ribs. Texas Chili Parlor in Austin, Texas. Carnegie's Deli in Noo Yawk for the best pastrami sandwich. Also in Noo Yawk is Isabella's where the best Eggs Benedict I have ever found are made. Funny thing is, there's a restaurant in Golden BC that came awfully damned close.
 
L Gilbert
#24
Brit foods I can't do without would be roast beef with Yorkshire puddings filled with gravy, bangers and mash, fish & chips, and scones. Can't think of others.
 
Dalreg
#25
I don't the actual food whether British, American or anyhthing else is the problem. I travel back and forth between Canada and Australia fairly regularily. So I am used to the food on both ends. Yet it seems that first week or so on either end is hard on the stomach and guts especially if I have been away for awhile.

As was mentioned before it could be the bacteria present in the food more so than the food itself.
 
Daz_Hockey
#26
cheers for that everyone, I once went to a mexican/chinese/US restaurant in New Mexico, we had two groups and the second group followed us in....I thought the food was fine, I love burrito's (maybe I'm like Ozzie Osborne in that way), but most of the group thought it was pretty foul....although I think our trek leader was just annoyed cus the waiter (when asking where she came from, and her replying, New England......well Boston) replied "New England?....whats the difference between New and Old England? lol.

Thanks for that everyone
 
fuzzylogix
#27
Who cares whether British food sucks.

Their pints are magnificent and provide enough caloric intake to survive.

Wonderful North American food can be found in the following places:
Italian restaurants, Chinese restaurants, Thai restaurants, Vietnamese restaurants, Indonesian restaurants, Indian restaurants, Middle Eastern restaurants.

Thank goodness for immigrants.
 
mabudon
#28
Daz, I really do think that "British food sucks" is some stupid buzz-phrase that folks use when they don't actually know what the HELL they're talking about yet still want to appear well versed in global culture or something like that- kinda like people who still use the phrase "I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out" and expect folks to see that as witty or somehow observational

Only "British" food I can recall REALLY hating was my late "Very British" Grandmas Treacle recipe, I am not sure if she made it right or what but I could hardly choke down a single spoon of that stuff. Her chocolate eclairs,however (which I called "cream puffs" much to her chagrin) and fruit cake with sweet icing, were damn near perfection

And there's a bunch of Indian and some middle eastern influence on dishes like curries and some soups in the foods of the English, too.

Tho, really I'm not one to talk too much about it, following a vegetarian diet means MOST foods that most folks eat, I don't- I tend to eat foods from desert countries, with WAY too much spice, about the only "north american" food I eat would probably be corn on the cob (and even then only when it's fresh around here)

Fun topic man!
 
Toro
#29
Most immigrant food in America has been Americanized.

But I'm with fuzzy. I could ethnic, particularly Asian, 7 days a week.
 
gopher
+1
#30
''Who cares whether British food sucks.
Their pints are magnificent and provide enough caloric intake to survive."


EXCELLENT!

How very true!!! That comment merits good rep points.

Makes me wish I had a bottle of Samuel Smith Tadcaster now.



 

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