Global abuse of women and children: Articles


Sassylassie
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I thought I'd start a thread on the Global abuse of women and children or any related article or topic.

Here's my first article, the last paragraph makes me extremely angry. Blaming the female victims that are raped on the way they dress is uneducated, intellectually unfounded but this mentallity is rampart in countries that appease male muslims.

Raped in Oslo

From the desk of Fjordman (external - login to view) on Wed, 2006-12-13 08:23
The number of rapes in the Norwegian capital Oslo is six times as high as in New York City. I’ve written about the issue of rape and Muslim immigration so many times that I am, quite frankly, a bit tired of the subject. But as we all know, problems don’t disappear just because you are tired of talking about them, so here goes.
There has been an explosive increase in the number of rape charges in the city of Oslo, but both the media and the authorities consistently refuse to tell us why. They did do so, however, in 2001, when two out of Norway's three largest newspapers, Aftenposten and Dagbladet, reported that most of these rape charges involve an immigrant perp, which again mostly means Muslims. Both newspapers have since then conveniently “forgotten” about this, and have never connected the issue to Muslim immigration although the number of rape charges has continued to rise to historic levels. They are thus at best guilty of extreme incompetence, since their former articles about this issue are still available online.
Norway’s Minister of Justice from 2001 to 2005, Odd Einar Dørum, mentioned the problem in 2001 but has later gone quiet about the issue. The reported number of rapes in Oslo (external - login to view) is now six – 6! – times as high per capita as in New York City, yet the media keeps warning against Islamophobia.
According to Aftenposten, the clinic (voldtektsmottak) at the emergency hospital known as Legevakt has never had so many rape victims to treat (external - login to view). Its ability to care for them all is being severely tested. The number of reported rapes has skyrocketed this year.
Two out of three charged with rape in Norway’s capital are immigrants with a non-western background according to a police study. The number of rape cases is also rising steadily. Unni Wikan, a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo, in 2001 said that (external - login to view) “Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes” because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. The professor’s conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: “Norwegian women must realize that we live in a Multicultural society and adapt themselves to it.”


The mentallity of the person who uttered the last statement pisses me off, Women are not the problem Male Muslims who have no self control are? This is a trend that is spreading throughout free countries that have allowed mass immigration and have socialist leaning governments. Blaming the victim is now the norm, so what is next? Allowing muslim males to rape women whom they "Deem" provacative with impunity? How did free societies de-evolve regarding the raping of women, it's been proven that rape isn't a sexual issue but a power/control issue so what a female is wearing has nothing to do with rape? The above attitude scare me greatly, it's the first step in forcing women in a free society back into the dark ages. Hold the filth that rape women accountable (deport them) and stop blaming the victims, it's the year 2006 not the 1930's.
 
Sassylassie
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A step forward for the womon of Pakistan, I hope this law gets enacted. Four men must witness a rape, indeed that's called gang rape not a religious edict.

Women: Beasts of Burden

Lahore, Pakistan - Blaring headlines -- arriving almost on a weekly basis now -- announcing yet another 'honor' killing or yet another rape victim detained while the perpetrator goes free show just how much the odds continue to work against the Pakistani woman.
Recently, the government decided to finally amend the criminal code of Pakistan's controversial rape laws that said a raped woman could be accused, in the absence of evidence of four male Muslim eyewitnesses, of adultery or fornication.
Women activists took to the streets, rejecting the amendment and calling for the complete repeal of the Hudood Ordinances, a bizarre set of Islamic laws devised by a military dictator in the 1980s in a bid to legitimize authoritarian rule by packaging it in "Islamisation". So long as these bad laws remain on the books, say activists, they will undermine the security of Pakistani women, resulting in grave miscarriages of justice. Some critics of the opposition say to accept moderate improvements and "realize half a loaf of bread is better than none at all."

In the 21st century, Pakistan is one of the few countries in the world with fewer women in its population than men. In rural Pakistan, women are treated as beasts of burden. They are fed on scraps but expected to do the bulk of the work. In urban society, women are considered a social burden, forced to leave school or employment after marriage.
Yet women have struggled and will continue to do so against all odds. Even if mobility remains circumscribed in the countryside, the information revolution is changing attitudes. Among urban women fortunate enough to gain an education, more and more are challenging, if not breaking, the glass ceiling in professions that once excluded females. Will women in Pakistan accept half a loaf in the 21st century? Not likely. They'll accept nothing less than complete freedom, complete equality, and equal rights.
 
L Gilbert
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However one dresses is a minor factor, if these rapists cannot keep their mitts to themselves, they are the ones that are the problem, not the women's dress. All it takes is a little self-control and responsibility for oneself. The activity is simply unacceptable.
Um, why is it nothing happens at beaches when there are scads of women with very little on at all? The Norwegian anthropologist is an idiot.
Last edited by L Gilbert; Dec 23rd, 2006 at 09:03 PM..
 
L Gilbert
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Um, some of these countries, IE Pakistan and Iran, astound me. I'm stunned that they have any women at all in their population.
 
Sassylassie
#5
I agree, they don't like us much do they? You go sister
 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by SassylassieView Post

I agree, they don't like us much do they? You go sister

Sister? lol You wouldn't say that if you saw my beard, heard my baritone, and saw, um, my, uh southern parts.
 
tamarin
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Sassy, the Norway news is startling. Especially given that the country is acclaimed as one of the world's great states for standard of living blah blah blah. If rape there indeed is on a shocking upward trajectory, and simultaneously the media and government, for reasons of cultural duplicity, are silent this is a damning indictment of western society. I always knew the West nurtured cowardice like a dunce does stupidity, but this would take the cake. And force serious citizens there - and eventually here - to take matters into their own hands.
 
gopher
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None worse than in Hindu India where girls are given the worse treatment in all of human history:

www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/DEL89569.htm (external - login to view)

India has killed 10 mln girls in 20 years -minister
14 Dec 2006 12:08:45 GMT
Source: Reuters



By Palash Kumar NEW DELHI, Dec 14 (Reuters) - Ten million girls have been killed by their parents in India in the past 20 years, either before they were born or immediately after, a government minister said on Thursday, describing it as a "national crisis". A UNICEF report released this week said 7,000 fewer girls are born in the country every day than the global average would suggest, largely because female foetuses are aborted after sex determination tests but also through murder of new borns. "It's shocking figures and we are in a national crisis if you ask me," Minister for Women and Child Development Renuka Chowdhury told Reuters. Girls are seen as liabilities by many Indians, especially because of the banned but rampant practice of dowry, where the bride's parents pay cash and goods to the groom's family. Men are also seen as bread-winners while social prejudices deny women opportunities for education and jobs. "Today, we have the odd distinction of having lost 10 million girl children in the past 20 years," Chowdhury told a seminar in Delhi University. "Who has killed these girl children? Their own parents." In some states, the minister said, newborn girls have been killed by pouring sand or tobacco juice into their nostrils. "The minute the child is born and she opens her mouth to cry, they put sand into her mouth and her nostrils so she chokes and dies," Chowdhury said, referring to cases in the western desert state of Rajasthan. "They bury infants into pots alive and bury the pots. They put tobacco into her mouth. They hang them upside down like a bunch of flowers to dry," she said. "We have more passion for tigers of this country. We have people fighting for stray dogs on the road. But you have a whole society that ruthlessly hunts down girl children." According to the 2001 census, the national sex ratio was 933 girls to 1,000 boys, while in the worst-affected northern state of Punjab, it was 798 girls to 1,000 boys. The ratio has fallen since 1991, due to the availability of ultrasound sex-determination tests. Although these are illegal they are still widely available and often lead to abortion of girl foetuses. Chowdhury said the fall in the number of females had cost one percent of India's GDP and created shortages of girls in some states like Haryana, where in one case four brothers had to marry one woman. Economic empowerment of women was key to change, she said. "Even today when you go to a temple, you are blessed with 'May you have many sons'," she said. "The minute you empower them to earn more or equal (to men), social prejudices vanish." The practice of killing the girl child is more prevalent among the educated, including in upmarket districts of New Delhi, making it more challenging for the government, the minister said. "How do we tell educated people that you must not do it? And these are people who would visit all the female deities and pray for strength but don't hesitate to kill a girl child," she said.




The number of dead girls surpasses those of the Nazi holocaust. Yet, nothing is done about it nor is any meaningful discussion or attempt to stop it being done.
 
tamarin
#9
Yes, amazing! And Canada is doing all it can to increase trade with the country. Given India's outlaw reputation since its development of nuclear weapons - and shocking stories like these - you'd think we'd tell the country to hit the road. Hmmm, Harper lately has taken a principled stand on China. Maybe it's time for an extension.
 
tamarin
#10
Reading the links Sassy supplied in the lead post, I'm overwhelmed. This is obviously a case of western nations, which are run by politically correct cliques, selling out. The citizens of the said countries should do everything in their power to oust their governments and demand accountable representation. If the stories are true, these countries really no longer exist as such. They're hollowed out, reprehensible and worthless junk states. Maybe the PC's are trying to save their own hides by sacrificing their kids. Wouldn't put it past them.
 
selfactivated
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Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

Sister? lol You wouldn't say that if you saw my beard, heard my baritone, and saw, um, my, uh southern parts.


ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Sassylassie
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Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

Sister? lol You wouldn't say that if you saw my beard, heard my baritone, and saw, um, my, uh southern parts.

Opps, sorry about that Sir.

Tamarin, I wasn't surprised that Norway is allowing this to happen. A while back I read an article that quoted a leading feminist from Norway who was speaking about the issue of Muslims wearing the veil and she stated something like "Why don't we all (females) wear the veil and it wouldn't be an issue." Socialist mantra of pandering to the whiners and blaming victims of crime not the perp. The same thing is happening in England, the Police Agencies like to hide rape stats from the public when there are committed by a "Select" group of males.

Gopher great article, keep them coming.
 
gopher
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www.pbs.org/pov/pov2004/lostb...ources_02.html (external - login to view)


An especially horrible aspect of the terrible strife in Sudan in which young boys are kidnapped, conscripted, or enslaved by hostile factions. While the USA has allowed entry of several thousand of these victims, the world to its great shame has taken too little notice of these horrors.
 
tamarin
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The only remedy I'll agree on in Sudan is a mass cull of the violators. Canada, of course, with its numbnut approach to justice simply doesn't belong. If the West isn't willing to do the dirty work that's necessary in the Sudan it can at least hire some large group of mercenaries that will.
 
Sassylassie
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Gopher they want those little boys for more than "Child Soldiers" they become sex slaves until they grow body hair. Homosexuality is punishable by death, pedophila is part of the Male Muslim culture and the Koran states it's okay as long as there isn't any body hair.

Today's pick


SOUTHERN VIOLENCE
Murder victim's wife slams scared villagers

Local people stood by and did nothing as two teachers were shot and burned by suspected militants in Yala


The wife of a teacher who was shot dead and set on fire by suspected militants has accused local villagers of doing nothing while her husband and his colleague were set ablaze.

On Friday, suspected militants shot dead Chamnong Chupatpong, the director of the Ban Bado elementary school, and a teacher, Manoe Sonkaew, and set their bodies on fire on a road just 100 metres away from the village school at which they worked in Yala's Tambon Yupo.

Kawin Chupatpong said the attack on her husband and his colleague had taken place in front of the villagers, who remained inside their homes instead of coming out to help the two victims.

"My husband has been helping them and educating their children for the past decade, and the differences in our religious beliefs was never an obstacle. But this shows that our good deeds were not reciprocated," Kawin said.

"My father and his school helped raised money for the construction of the local mosque, so the children could have a place to pray. He even used his own money," said the couple's daughter Monthida, a senior at Kasetsart University.

Police Maj-General Phaitoon Choochaiya, commander of the Yala Provincial Police, told reporters yesterday that the absence of eyewitnesses has made his work much more difficult.

He said the brutal attack had sent a chilling message to the entire community, and hence the refusal of the villagers to come forward with information.

Yala deputy governor Nathaphon Wicheanpert said the level of brutality was part of a strategy by the militants to test their recruits to see how far they were willing to go.

More than 1,900 people, mostly Muslims of Malay ethnicity, have been killed in the deep South since January 2004.

Authorities said a new generation of militants have effectively shattered the fabric of the local community by singling out monks and teachers, along with security officials and their informants.

Somart Suwanthawi, deputy director of Education District One in Yala, described the incident as "unthinkable".

"We have to accept the fact that the villagers are very scared. This has forced them to stay away from these kinds of incidents," Somart said.

Colonel Shinawatra Mandej, commander of Yala's Task Force 1, said security units were looking to come up with a new strategy to better protect teachers. Chamnong and Manoe were armed with handguns but apparently were no match for the militants.


 
Colpy
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Gopher! Something nice to say about the USA!

Quote:

While the USA has allowed entry of several thousand of these victims,

I agree, it is a disgrace to watch the west's inaction on Darfur........but you realize an invasion and destruction of the Islamist state would be necessary.........

Somehow I think you would instantly become anti-intervention the second boots hit the ground.

As well, Canada can't get her NATO so-called "allies" from mainland Europe to go out in the dark in southern Afghanistan........good luck getting them to do anything useful in the Sudan.
 
Sassylassie
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Quote: Originally Posted by gopherView Post

None worse than in Hindu India where girls are given the worse treatment in all of human history:

www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/DEL89569.htm (external - login to view)

India has killed 10 mln girls in 20 years -minister
14 Dec 2006 12:08:45 GMT
Source: Reuters



By Palash Kumar NEW DELHI, Dec 14 (Reuters) - Ten million girls have been killed by their parents in India in the past 20 years, either before they were born or immediately after, a government minister said on Thursday, describing it as a "national crisis". A UNICEF report released this week said 7,000 fewer girls are born in the country every day than the global average would suggest, largely because female foetuses are aborted after sex determination tests but also through murder of new borns. "It's shocking figures and we are in a national crisis if you ask me," Minister for Women and Child Development Renuka Chowdhury told Reuters. Girls are seen as liabilities by many Indians, especially because of the banned but rampant practice of dowry, where the bride's parents pay cash and goods to the groom's family. Men are also seen as bread-winners while social prejudices deny women opportunities for education and jobs. "Today, we have the odd distinction of having lost 10 million girl children in the past 20 years," Chowdhury told a seminar in Delhi University. "Who has killed these girl children? Their own parents." In some states, the minister said, newborn girls have been killed by pouring sand or tobacco juice into their nostrils. "The minute the child is born and she opens her mouth to cry, they put sand into her mouth and her nostrils so she chokes and dies," Chowdhury said, referring to cases in the western desert state of Rajasthan. "They bury infants into pots alive and bury the pots. They put tobacco into her mouth. They hang them upside down like a bunch of flowers to dry," she said. "We have more passion for tigers of this country. We have people fighting for stray dogs on the road. But you have a whole society that ruthlessly hunts down girl children." According to the 2001 census, the national sex ratio was 933 girls to 1,000 boys, while in the worst-affected northern state of Punjab, it was 798 girls to 1,000 boys. The ratio has fallen since 1991, due to the availability of ultrasound sex-determination tests. Although these are illegal they are still widely available and often lead to abortion of girl foetuses. Chowdhury said the fall in the number of females had cost one percent of India's GDP and created shortages of girls in some states like Haryana, where in one case four brothers had to marry one woman. Economic empowerment of women was key to change, she said. "Even today when you go to a temple, you are blessed with 'May you have many sons'," she said. "The minute you empower them to earn more or equal (to men), social prejudices vanish." The practice of killing the girl child is more prevalent among the educated, including in upmarket districts of New Delhi, making it more challenging for the government, the minister said. "How do we tell educated people that you must not do it? And these are people who would visit all the female deities and pray for strength but don't hesitate to kill a girl child," she said.




The number of dead girls surpasses those of the Nazi holocaust. Yet, nothing is done about it nor is any meaningful discussion or attempt to stop it being done.

Thankyou for that article, it was painful to read but I believe we are on the same page of the book called the "Global Village" Gopher we may not agree but I think we share a common bond.
 
gopher
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we share a common bond


That's good to know. Whatever our political viewpoints, I think we can all agree that we are all intent in bringing about a better world. How we get there will likely be via different avenues. But the goal is the same for most of us, I'm quite sure.
 
gopher
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../International


Six murdered children unearthed in India


ASHOK SHARMA
Associated Press

NOIDA, India — Two men were arrested Friday after police found the decomposing bodies of at least six children buried behind a house outside New Delhi, officials said.
As police searched the property in Noida, a town east of the capital, word spread that as many as 38 children had gone missing in the last few years in the area, raising fears that dozens of bodies could be found.
There were also conflicting reports of how many bodies had already been unearthed at the house, with one police officer, who asked not to be identified because the investigation was ongoing, saying he had seen 12 skulls uncovered.
Earlier, local Police Chief R.K.S. Rathore said the alleged killer, a domestic servant at the house, confessed to luring at least six children to the home and killing them. He said the alleged assailant went by the names Satish or Surendra, but did not provide a full name for the man.
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A crowd gathers outside the house where bodies of six children was recovered, at Noida, on the outskirts of New Delhi, India, Friday, Dec. 29, 2006. Indian police on Friday arrested two men after finding the decomposing bodies of at least six children buried behind a house, officials said. As many as 38 children had gone missing in the past few years in the area, raising fears that dozens of bodies could be found. (Mustafa Quraishi/AP Photo)



Mr. Rathore said the owner of the house, Mohinder Singh, had also been arrested, although investigators had not yet determined if he had any direct role in the killings.
According to Mr. Rathore, Mr. Satish told them that he lured the children to the house with the promise of chocolate and sweets so he could sexually assault and kill them.
Mr. Satish was found with a missing girl's mobile phone, and suspicious police went to the house, Mr. Rathore said. There, they were tipped off to the presence of bodies by the smell of decomposing corpses, Mr. Rathore told reporters.
Within hours of the grisly find, police were using a back-hoe and bulldozer to help them dig through the yard and reports were filtering out that the remains of dozens more children might be buried at the house.
“We have been pursuing with police the case of these 38 children who have been missing,” said Satish Chandra Mishra, a former president of the local residents' association.
Like many of the thousands of people who gathered at the scene, he feared that most of the missing children had ended up at the house and been killed.
Among the onlookers were parents of missing children, most of them poor domestic workers.
Sunita Kumari, who irons clothes for a living, said her 10-year-old old daughter, Jyoti, had been missing for 19 months. “I have no clue what happened to my daughter. I sent her to the tailor and she's been missing since then,” she said.
Durga Prasad, a driver, said his seven-year-old daughter, Arti, has been missing since Sept. 25. He sent her out to buy candies and she never came back.
“The police tell us they're looking and asked us to keep looking too, but we have no news about our child,” Mr. Prasad said.
Usha Thakur, who runs the Shivsagar Mishra Manav Trust, a group that works with poor people in the neighbourhood, said police had repeatedly brushed off reports of missing children.
“Because these are poor people the police even refuse to register cases for the missing children,” Ms. Thakur said in a telephone interview from Calcutta, where she is currently travelling.
“I and other people have been after the police to do something about these missing children of poor people but they haven't bothered,” she said.
Police officials offered no comment about the allegations, but CNN-IBN reported that a midlevel commander in the neighbourhood was suspended hours after the bodies were found.









I just saw this painful event on BBC news a few minutes ago. A riot ensued because aggrieved people said that the police did nothing to prevent this horrible crime and they refused to cooperate when suspicions were first aroused. The key to the people's claim was that the police quickly assist the wealthy but do nothing to help the poor. From all appearances, this is undoubtedly true.
 
Sassylassie
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Thanks for posting that Gopher, what a sad story. Here's another one that makes me blink, can you believe that the Netherlands, a free country, is allowing this to happen because they fear the back lash of death threats and violence if they bring this issue out into the public. Child abuse and abuse against women and men should "Never" be covered up to protect violent men and abusers. I'm really begining to dislike the Indian and Pakistani governments, spineless cowards. Here's the article:

by Grant Swank (external - login to view)
Kidnap Hindu, Force Marriage to Muslim
January 04, 2007 12:00 PM EST



Sanao Menghwar has had three of his daughters kidnapped, then forced to marry Muslim men. That means that the young women were coerced into becoming Islamics.
This happens daily, particularly in the Pakistani Sindh province, according to Hasan Mansoor, reporter, Midday.com.
Other Hindus in the province worry when their daughters will disappear. Therefore, there are entire Hindu families leaving Pakistan for Canada, India or other nations.Menghewar and his wife left their house on errands. When they returned to their residence, their daughters were missing. They reported the missing young women to the police department, filing the necessary papers. Neighbors helped them on a search party to locate the daughters, but to no avail.
Menghwar’s daughters have yet to be found. However, authorities have arrested three Islamic young men assumed to be connected with the girls’ kidnapping. The men have been released on bail by a court due to the men being minors.
"’Kidnapping Hindu girls like this has become a normal practice. The girls are then forced to sign stamp papers stating that they’ve become Muslims,’ says Laljee Menghwar, a member of the Hindu Panchayat in Karachi."
Because of extremist Muslim threats, Hindus have had to turn to what those in the Netherlands are resorting to. Both areas have been under extreme pressure from maiming and killing Islamics so that the local citizens have put into action what one person refers to as "self-censorship."
There is no talk. There is no public utterance. There is nothing said negatively about the Muslims in the area for fear of being slain.
So it is that extremist Islamic killers international could overtake country after country, area after area. Instill such fear in the people that no one speaks the facts concerning local extremist Islamics kidnapping and killing; therefore, they have open skies to do just that — more so.
"’Hindus here are too frightened to vent their anger — they fear victimization,’ said one local."
Nevertheless, Pakistani Christian community members have come to their aid. The Christians have organized support for the Hindus persecuted by extremist Muslims. The Christians have "carried out a demonstration with them in Karachi, protesting against this crime.
"Similarly startling incidents have occurred in several districts of Sindh and evoked identical responses. At least six Hindu girls met this fate a few months ago in Jacobabad (a tribal area heavily inhabited by Hindus) and Larkana districts.

"Sapna, the daughter of one Seth Giyanchand, was recently taken to a shrine (Amrote in Shikarpur district) by Shamsuddin Dasti. Dasti, a Muslim friend of Sapna’s brother, is a married man and father of two.

"Nevertheless, the custodian of the shrine, Maulvi Abdul Aziz lost no time in converting Sapna to Islam (her name was changed to ‘Mehek’) and marrying her to Dasti. The case came to light only when Sapna’s parents stated that their daughter hadn’t eloped but had been abducted."
Islamic fanaticism is increasing alarmingly, according to Nuzzhat Shirin of the Aurat Foundation. The extremist fanatics erect shrines that are used in coercing "conversions." When a Hindu is forced to become a Muslim, zealot extremist Islamics gather at the shrines, chanting and singing and marching in the streets.
Such a ruckus is made that if the young kidnapped girl appears in court, the fanatic Muslims yell, scream, throw rose petals into the air and follow the youth into the building so that she is so intimidated that she can hardly speak.
It is extremist Muslim winning by intimidation. It is extremist Muslim overcoming a culture by threatening. It is by extremist Islamics abducting young girls that an entire community is snuffed out by moving away or succumbing to the extremist Muslim murderers global.
"The threat of victimization by Muslims is palpable; Shirin says when forced conversion cases make it to court, lawyers themselves avoid taking them up, fearing a backlash from maulvis."
It is the same with so-called "honor killing." When extremist Muslim males slay a Hindu female whom they have accused of dishonoring the clan in some way, usually police and media say nothing, looking the other way. Therefore, the slaughtering of innocent females continues daily.
"And forced conversions are not the only problem that the Hindu minority (there are 2.7 million Hindus in Pakistan; Pakistan’s total population is 140 million) is facing in the country.

"A powerful syndicate of bandits and patrons in the northern districts of Sindh regularly kidnap rich Hindus for ransom. They not only kill hostages if the ransom doesn’t arrive on time, they even kill some despite their ransom being paid.

"Sadham Chand Chawla, the former president of the Hindu Panchayat, Jacobabad, was abducted and murdered. His killers remain at large despite enormous protests. Following his murder, his family had received several threats until they secretly migrated to India."
 
gopher
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It's not just Hindus and Muslims who do this in Asia as pagans from South East Asia do it as well:

www.fidh.org/IMG/pdf/kh2004_women-en.pdf (external - login to view)


We had a series of cases here in the Twin Cities of SE Asians kidnapping girls and forcing them into marriage about 17 years ago. The defense in these cases said, this is a cultural custom and therefore not a crime. But the state said we do not recognize this horrible practice and rightfully convicted the culprits.
 
L Gilbert
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Hindus, Muslims, southern Asia? How about the abuse next door (almost) to me here in the Kootenays. The men of Bountiful near Creston (BC) have been basically using women and girls for breeding purposes and slavery.

www.rickross.com/reference/po...olygamy65.html (external - login to view)

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/bustupinbountiful/

thetyee.ca/News/2005/04/22/Sc...blicRelations/ (external - login to view)

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/f...amy/index.html
 
Dixie Cup
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So, this is where Political Correctness comes back to bite us on the tush!

If we can't stand up for what is right; if we can't speak out about all the injustices in this world; what does that make us?? We are just as guilty as those to perpetuate the crimes to begin with are we not??

JMO
 
Curiosity
#24
Dixie Cup

Unfortunately we are limited to speech here only but there are some people who walk the talk. We do what we can within reason unless we have unlimited funds and power.

I am truly interested in "home improvement" over saving other lands first - but that is me....

I dislike countries standing up before television cameras blasting countries for their lack of funding and aid in support of their extreme poverty when they themselves are created it and doing nothing to change
their own ways. I refer to many African nations when I write this.

I guess I'm just tired of the laying of the guilt game for western democracies who are not only expected but demanded that they continue to contribute and change things - when the people refuse to change themselves.
 
Dixie Cup
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Quote: Originally Posted by CuriosityView Post

Dixie Cup

I dislike countries standing up before television cameras blasting countries for their lack of funding and aid in support of their extreme poverty when they themselves are created it and doing nothing to change
their own ways. I refer to many African nations when I write this.

I have to say that I agree with that statement.

I guess I'm just tired of the laying of the guilt game for western democracies who are not only expected but demanded that they continue to contribute and change things - when the people refuse to change themselves.

I somewhat agree with this. But, we do need to be part of the global community and stand up for what is acceptable in human behavior, ESPECIALLY when people are unable to do so themselves. Unfortunately, a lot of the critisim of western democracies experience come from "within" with none (i.e. UN being one) of these "critic's" challenging the countries who promote the various horrific activies employed by these governments. That's what I find most frustrating.

JMO

Yea!! I figured out the "quotes" gosh I'm slow
 
selfactivated
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Sassy I cant read these articles. Im empathic and I get chest pains enough without adding to them. I will add my two cents on the abuse in our own countries. Ive been abused sinse I was 5 right up to 5 years ago thats 33 years of beatings, rapes, emotional abuse and psychological abuse. There is only one way to get out of that situation. Feel good about yourself. Even as I laid in a coma that wasnt enough. I read a book, that sparked it. I practiced looking in the mirror and actually smiling from there it snowballed. My daughter has a "Mom" (yanno the other woman you loved just as much as your real Mom) After listening to me talk about loving myself so much more than I used to, she paid attention. She left her husband after he beat her, she found her childhood sweetheart and their together. Its amazing what we manifest for ourselves when we have the power to love ourselves........its empowerment thats going to save these women.

As a woman thats been abused over and over I can tell you you get accoustomed to being hurt. It proves we're alive. Pain is a proof that we exist. If your told a million times your fat your ugly your dumb you not good enough you'll never get a real man noone will have you. You believe it. The hitting becomes welcome because it proves your alive. The words are the worst because they negate your existance.

I have no answers for the women in other countries because if you force them away from what they know.......they'll find someone else to make them feel alive.
 
gopher
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#27
content.nejm.org/cgi/content/...11/1171?ck=nck (external - login to view)


Because of China's population control policy, the culture has succumbed to selective gender births and female infanticide.


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The Chinese government has acknowledged the potentially disastrous social consequences of this sex imbalance. The shortage of women may have increased mental health problems and socially disruptive behavior among men and has left some men unable to marry and have a family.24 (external - login to view) The scarcity of females has resulted in kidnapping and trafficking of women for marriage and increased numbers of commercial sex workers, with a potential resultant rise in human immunodeficiency virus infection and other sexually transmitted diseases.25 (external - login to view) There are fears that these consequences could be a real threat to China's stability in the future.26 (external - login to view)


China's policy has resulted in a huge increase in female infanticide and will lead to disastrous future consequences. Violence begets violence and China must stop this campaign before it is too late.
 
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