Dear Reverend Blair,


Andem
#31
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyC

3. Even though a few people pointed out the inappropriateness of Moghrabi's "suicide" comment, no further action was taken by a mod or admin. this appeared to be tacit approval. If you're going to censor some posts, censor them all. And no fair calling them "edits" either. We edit our own posts for spelling or clarity. The mods censor them.

LadyC: The mods don't censor posts as you're charging. If we censored posts, the post would have been outright removed. The majority of the post, Reverend Blair obviously didn't agree with. Was it removed and did he remove anything he thought was offensive without noting that in the post? Certain sections of certain posts may be edited if there's anything racist/abnoxiously offensive/spammish/whatever the case may be.

Censorship is filtering TV broadcasts before they go live. Censorship it outright deleting full posts just because someone doesn't agree with it.

To be completely honest, I know exactly what moghrabi is always posting about and I don't spend all of my time reading every single one of his posts. There are hundreds of posts per day now on this board and the biggest problem I have is kicking out the spammers who register to post a incest/kiddie porn URL in their profile so it will get spidered by the search engines!

Which is why after all of this, everybody can help moderate the forum and report anything illegal/racist/abnoxiously offense by clicking the REPORT button below the post.

If you see something that shouldn't be there, then make yourself heard.
 
Reverend Blair
#32
Quote:

I don't like the title of this topic. I don't think the Rev is "dear" at all.

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May I ask you why Rev is not dear.

I'm gonna go with Lady C on that.

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I'm sure the Rev is as cute as a button.

I'm not gonna go with her on that.

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1. To me, "Baghdad Bob" is now the same as calling someone a liar. It doesn't mean any specific race of people. On other forums, it is fired off at anyone who is deemed to be exaggerating to the point of outright lying.

As I said, I've seen it used by American troops in what is very much a racist way. I will continue to interpret it in that light.

Calling somebody a liar can be very much a personal attack as well though, depending on context. In the context of the post we're discussing and similar things posted by Paco in the past, I still would have deleted it.
 
moghrabi
#33
Sure. She is as cute as a bug's ear. But i wonder what bug is he?
 
LadyC
#34
Sorry, Andem. I disagree. The Rev censored the post because of perceived racism. Yes, he made a note that the post had been "editted", but in my opinion that was worse. When I read that originally, I filled in potential racist remarks and I'm sorry to say it made me think less of Paco. When I later found out what the original comment was -

I'll say again - Whatever the Rev wants to read into the comment, few if any of us would see that as a racist remark.

Censor, edit. Either way - it'a all in how you perceive it.

For the record, I also agree with Paco re: "Skank for me Condi". I'm not familiar with the song, so I read it as very sexist... like the old belief that the only way a woman could get to the top was by sleeping with the boss.

I find the word "skank" to be offensive, along the lines of sl*t or the "c" word.
 
LadyC
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by the Rev

Calling somebody a liar can be very much a personal attack as well though, depending on context.

Agreed. It's amazing how some people don't see that though. I've called people's integrity into question and called them liars (they were, in fact, lying). In retaliation they called me ugly.

I think I won those rounds.
 
Reverend Blair
#36
Quote:

I find the word "skank" to be offensive, along the lines of sl*t or the "c" word.

So buy the album and listen to the song. Again, context is important.
 
moghrabi
#37
Well let me in a little here. The Rev censored the name "Baghdad Bob" meaning a liar or anything this person says is a lie. However, if you look at Paco's original message he insulted billions of people (Arabs/moslems) by saying that they still live in their feces.

I did not make anything of it and I went after Paco. I am still being blamed for the suicide word I used although I did apologize for it but no one on this forum suggested censoring the feces part from Paco's.

I think the Rev can do so much and I did think he did the right thing. So let it rest at this.
 
LadyC
#38
Ah... context. Isn't that exactly what paco said regarding his comment?

Honestly, I don't need to buy the album to understand the context. I understood your explanation perfectly.

Still don't like the word. I'd be extremely insulted if someone called me that.

I guess that would be the point though, wouldn't it?
 
Andem
#39
Then it's good we have it here in a topic and openly discussing it. Moderators are humans, you know. Until I make a program to catch these things, humans will have to do

One person will see it as offensive and the other will not. There's no getting around that except by discussing it. Atleast we all have a clear understanding and are able to take our own positions. That's whats great about this forum.


Maybe we should start an open rant forum open to members only?
 
LadyC
#40
Quote:

However, if you look at Paco's original message he insulted billions of people (Arabs/moslems) by saying that they still live in their feces.

I did not make anything of it and I went after Paco. I am still being blamed for the suicide word I used although I did apologize for it but no one on this forum suggested censoring the feces part from Paco's.

Yes, you did make something of it. It wasn't till I read your later posts that I went back looking for his original comment. Granted, I don't read all the posts every day.

But you're comparing apples to oranges. The "feces" comment was deserving of "editing", the Baghdad Bob one, in my opinion, wasn't the same. You can't edit one post on the evidence of another.

But you're right. I think this topic is pretty much exhausted.
 
moghrabi
#41
I meant i did not make something of it as of complaining to a mod. I did something of it as I said earlier by going after Paco.
 
Andem
#42
Ok, then.. Moghrabi and Paco: Can we all agree to tone it down a bit so it doesn't have to come to this? Two wrongs don't make a right.. and a right and a wrong still don't equal right.

Can we be civilised?

(Btw: If I hear another person tell me I'm wrong for using an s instead of a zed for ised... .. Don't worry, it was no-one on here yet.).

 
moghrabi
#43
Andem, You are wrong for using an s instead of a z in civilized.

just kidding.
 
Reverend Blair
#44
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Honestly, I don't need to buy the album to understand the context.

Yeah, but Steve spent all the money he made when he was really famous on drugs. Now that he doesn't have as much he spends his money on good works, so you should buy his album. Plus there's only one song on the album that's not good.

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I guess that would be the point though, wouldn't it?

Yup...you should hear his ode to the FCC. I can't even type the title here without using asterisks. It makes the point too.
 
Andem
#45
Quote: Originally Posted by moghrabi

Andem, You are wrong for using an s instead of a z in civilized.

just kidding.

mmmmhmmmm.

Cilivised
Realised
Contextualised
Organisation

 
moghrabi
#46
Thanks for clearning my spelling for me. It just looks weird with an S. Maybe it is my eyes.
 
Andem
#47
That's ok moghrabi, you spell it mom, not mum. I say tomato, you probably say tomehto.
 
moghrabi
#48
Actually you are right with Mom. But I do spell tomato like you. I think I am a mixed breed.
 

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