Thank You For Your Service (A Moment of Truth)
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both soldiers were later beheaded by terrorists posing as immigrants.
Nonsense Justine says he is protecting us all..
Video: Islamic State video threatens new attacks against countries fighting terrorism, including Canada - The Globe and Mail
Thinking C51 won't be scrapped... Justine wants police to have more power..
Report urges clemency for 300 veterans on death row — RT ...
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Nov 10, 2015 - About 10 percent of current death row inmates in the US served in the military, according to a new report, which recommends that this service ...
Homeless Veterans - National Coalition for the Homeless
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Feb 21, 2012 - Far too many veterans are homeless in America—between 130,000 and 200,000 on any given night—representing between one fourth and ...
When they want you to serve remember what it can be like if you get home. The flick is dishonest.
https://www.rt.com/usa/321489-death-penalty-military-veterans/
Nov 10, 2015 - About 10 percent of current death row inmates in the US served in the military, according to a new report, which recommends that this service ...
Homeless Veterans - National Coalition for the Homeless
www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/veterans.html
Feb 21, 2012 - Far too many veterans are homeless in America—between 130,000 and 200,000 on any given night—representing between one fourth and ...
When they want you to serve remember what it can be like if you get home. The flick is dishonest.
The reality of many veterans is in stark contrast with the portrayal of the flick. We will see many more of a similar kind in the dark days ahead I fear. I spent lots of hours watching combat footage from the conflict in Syria and elsewhere and viewing the twisted mangled bodies of young men and women slaughtered in the thousands to feed the aspirations of the rich and powerful, it disgusts me. War is decietful dirty business. I always wonder how many brilliant talented genius minds lay in the heaps of bodies and what thier contributions to the race could have been had we thier parents been wiser than we obviously were not.
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It is a damned shame that young people are sent to fight a war and prevented by instructions from the top brass in government to have any hope of winning.
The rules of the Geneva Convention are the stupidest thing ever! In a war there are two sides, the aggressor and the defender. Does anyone really believe that the aggressor is going to follow 'rules of engagement'? Of course not! If he was brutal enough to start a war to achieve an agenda he isn't going to let any rules deter him. Yet the defenders are hobbled be those rules that his opponent disregards.
The ideology is great. It looks great on paper. But in the real world it is as far as one can get from reality.
Leaders like Hitler and Stalin didn't play by any rules. The bombed and killed indiscriminately. And the only way they could be defeated was for the defenders to play by the same rules. Geneva Convention rules, if in play during WW11 would have guaranteed a win for the Nazis.
So that is what our allied troops are up against today. They cannot effectively even defend themselves or risk being charged with murder. And Heaven help them if a civilian gets killed when in reality all of ISIS fighters are civilians.
I think if a war is to be fought the government should delegate the job to the military leaders and let them fight it to win by whatever means is necessary. Then the soldiers could do the job they were sent to do and do it well.
The rules of the Geneva Convention are the stupidest thing ever! In a war there are two sides, the aggressor and the defender. Does anyone really believe that the aggressor is going to follow 'rules of engagement'? Of course not! If he was brutal enough to start a war to achieve an agenda he isn't going to let any rules deter him. Yet the defenders are hobbled be those rules that his opponent disregards.
The ideology is great. It looks great on paper. But in the real world it is as far as one can get from reality.
Leaders like Hitler and Stalin didn't play by any rules. The bombed and killed indiscriminately. And the only way they could be defeated was for the defenders to play by the same rules. Geneva Convention rules, if in play during WW11 would have guaranteed a win for the Nazis.
So that is what our allied troops are up against today. They cannot effectively even defend themselves or risk being charged with murder. And Heaven help them if a civilian gets killed when in reality all of ISIS fighters are civilians.
I think if a war is to be fought the government should delegate the job to the military leaders and let them fight it to win by whatever means is necessary. Then the soldiers could do the job they were sent to do and do it well.
We don't follow the Conventions and the ROE because they do, or don't. We follow them for a number of moral, strategic, and tactical reasons.
Funny you should mention that. Here's a little history for you.
During the closing days of World War II in Europe and the early days of the post-war occupation, it's estimated that more than two million rapes were committed by the Soviet troops against German women. It is conventional wisdom in Germany that the only two words of German the Soviet soldiers knew were "Frau komm!," meaning "Come here, woman!"
Fast-forward a couple of years. The Soviets blockaded West Berlin, intending to drive the Allies out. In response, the Allies launched the Berlin Airlift. Despite desperate, ongoing efforts by the Allies, the average Berliner was living on 1200 calories a day, mostly in the form of powdered potatoes called "Pom," from the French term for potatoes, "pommes de terre," which is easier to say than the German "Kartoffel."
Even as they blockaded West Berlin, the Soviets offered the West Berliners jobs, clothes, aid money, and most importantly food, if they would sign up for an East German registration card. Yet even though they were slowly starving to death, the West Berliners overwhelmingly refused the food the Soviets offered, and held fast to the Allies.
One of their battle-cry sayings at the time was "Better Pom than Frau komm."
And that, davesmom, is why there are sound reasons to obey the Conventions and the ROE.
There are other good reasons, too, but here's the one I want to focus on. I truly can't understand why you want to emulate the people you regard as immoral, disgusting barbarians. I'm serious. This is not a set-up for a funny or nasty comeback. If we behave the way people we regard as immoral, disgusting barbarians behave, what's the difference between us?
Name one American general charged with war crimes for defending democrazy these last three quarters of a century of open brutal American agression and the millions of victims murdered in defence of that so called democracy. Maybe German victory would have been prefered in hindsight, certainly the victims of American wars would at least considered that outcome favourably.